User talk:Yunshui

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You have multiple emails and the latest one is for Dineshsomasundar's sock. GSS (talk|c|em) 09:08, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Sockblocked, your vigilance is, as always, appreciated! Yunshui ^雲_水 08:18, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Elmakkan (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) is back see your inbox. GSS (talk|c|em) 06:13, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

• Ok so they made a couple of edits after the warning was issued but no reply. GSS (talk|c|em) 13:19, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Sorted. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:28, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Johnsaavn is back with an IP please check your inbox. GSS (talk|c|em) 14:34, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

• Again? this is kinda surprising. GSS (talk|c|em) 15:36, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Elisa Rolle AN thread

Thanks for closing, but you forgot to sign the statement. I can of course always add {{unsigned}}, but I though I would better show up here and let you know.--Ymblanter (talk) 13:34, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Whoops - sorted now, much obliged! Yunshui ^雲_水 13:43, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Hi Yunshui, would you mind re-opening this? Victoria expressed concern about the thread, and I was about to post something. SarahSV ^(talk) 13:35, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Given that Elisa.rolle has specifically said on her talkpage that she accepts the ban and wishes to leave Wikipedia, I fear reopening the discussion at this juncture would generate more heat than light. The appropriate venue to request reopening of a CBAN discussion is via email to ArbCom; if you feel that my close was not appropriate, that is the avenue of appeal. Yunshui ^雲_水 13:43, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

It was open for less than 48 hours, and you closed it in the middle of the night in North America. Tony posted there than no admin would have unblocked without an AN discussion, but in fact I was considering unblocking when Ritchie announced that he was taking it to AN. I would like to make that clear, and explain what happened. People supporting the ban acknowledged that they know nothing about her. Please reopen and allow the discussion to continue. SarahSV ^(talk) 14:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Re. the timings, for the record, no-one had plainly supported the unblock request since 22:33, on 17 July 2019. Put it another way, out of the ~39 hours the thread was open, only the first 5 1/2 saw any support whatsoever. ——SerialNumber54129 14:28, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

So perhaps others of us were !voting on the evidence, not from the point of view that we "knew them"? - SchroCat (talk) 14:32, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I started writing up last night an explanation of what happened, going back to the one-month block, only to find the thread had closed. This was a case of one thing that shouldn't have happened leading to something else that shouldn't have happened. I would like the discussion to explore that, and indeed there are now two posts there. Also, Yunshui, please adjust the time in your signature to reflect when it was closed. SarahSV ^(talk) 14:58, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

You've lost me a title in your comment there. Which of her five blocks are you saying shouldn't have happened? And as to the thread closing "in the middle of the night in North America", is there a rule that it has to be working hours in the US? It's always the it in the middle of the night somewhere. - SchroCat (talk) 15:05, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Like I said on the AN page, I think that if we're going to claim "community consensus" on something, then we have to give it enough time to actually gain consensus. 48 Hours isn't a lot of time. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:59, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the process for appealing this ban, but I, too, would like you to reopen the discussion (I hope you are allowed to do that). I see some anti-woman fervor in one of the anti-Elisa remarks. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 05:13, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

I see some anti-policy fervour in rather more. ——SerialNumber54129 10:28, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Not all policies are good. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:30, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

@Megalibrarygirl: That's what RFCs are for, is it not. ——SerialNumber54129 14:21, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

To be clear, there doesn't need to be consensus to ban in this situation. There merely needs to be no consensus to unblock after a discussion that is open for 24 hours. If there is no consensus to unblock, it's a community ban. —/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 08:25, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

24 hours isn't enough time at all. That's ridiculous. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:31, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Yunshui, I hope now that it's Monday you will be back online to address this. Several editors have asked you to undo your close on the grounds that the discussion was closed too soon to constitute "due consideration by the community", or have expressed concern that Elisa wandered blindfold into a CBAN without realizing what she had agreed to. They include Megalibrarygirl, Victoriaearle, SusunW, Levivich, Montanabw, and myself. In addition, I've found three of her articles so far that were speedied as copyvio that seem not to be copyvio, so there is some confusion about how this has been handled.

Several of us are working on a proposal to form a mentoring collaboration to help Elisa get back to editing, which we intend to propose when it's ready. See User:Valereee/ER and the discussion on my talk page at User talk:SlimVirgin#ER. Would you please consider undoing your close so that at least Elisa does not face the hurdle of a community ban? In theory it should make no difference, but in practice someone is likely to argue that, because she's community banned, she has to wait a certain period before appealing it. SarahSV ^(talk) 15:01, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Well, I suppose ADMINACCT applies? ——SerialNumber54129 09:16, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

My apologies for not being on Wikipedia 24/7/365; every now and again even I need a holiday. Given that the ANI discussion has now been archived, that the close was entirely in line with policy, that the number of editors who have asked me to reopen it is considerably fewer than the number who have endorsed the close, and that I really would rather not drag this unfortunate editor through the mud any further than she has been dragged already, I maintain my previous position. If you believe the close was incorrect, you are welcome to challenge it via the normal process for the closure of CBAN discussions. Yunshui ^雲_水 08:11, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

UTRS Request #25986

Hi, please see my question on this appeal. Thanks! Just Chilling (talk) 20:27, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Replied there. Apologies for the delay; I've been away. Yunshui ^雲_水 08:01, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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Request for reviewing Draft:Maulana Shakir Ali Noori

Hello Yunshui, i have created a draft article Draft:Maulana Shakir Ali Noori please review it, this article before deleted was due to inappropriate referencing and doesn't showed any notability but i have referenced it in good manner and added notability of the person, so i request you to review the article, Thank you, with best regards Hzk12345 (talk) 15:59, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Of the sources currently in the draft:

• 1 is fine
• 2 seems ok
• 3 is a dead link
• 4 is a passing mention, and doesn't provide any evidence of notability.
• 5, 6 and 7 are irrelevant - all they say is that he is mentioned in source 1, which is already verified by the presence of source 1. You only need one of these, if any, and I would suggest #6 (Times of India) since the other two look much less like reliable sources. However, none of them provide the in-depth coverage needed for notability purposes; they are all passing mentions.

You will never get an article approved while it contains lines like: It promotes the propagation of the true beliefs of Islam; that's obviously a non-neutral statement and has no place in an encyclopedia. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:21, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you @Yunshui:, i have done correction on it i have removed dead link and line like: It promotes the propagation of the true beliefs of Islam, i think it is ready to get reviewed now. Hzk12345 (talk) 07:14, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Revival786

Hello. I was working my way through speedy deletion candidates and I found myself at Draft talk:Francis Mvemba and from there User_talk:SameStruggle#Paid_editing where a paid editor by the handle of Revival786 is discussed.

I've previously raised a sockpuppet investigation which involves a Revival938. It's probably a long shot but I wondered if there might be a connection with Revival786. Would you mind having a look at the case and/or pointing me to any SPIs or discussion about Revival786 that you know of? If you reply I'd appreciate a ping. Thanks. --kingboyk (talk) 19:23, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

@Kingboyk: More likely Revival932... I've run a CU and added some notes to the SPI for you, but haven't taken any admin actions at this time. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:11, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I've noted some behavioural similarities between the two Revivals. --kingboyk (talk) 10:04, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

The evidence is building at that investigation page. Could you please advise on what should happen next - as an admin, but one who submitted the case, should I take action myself once it seems appropriate, or am I "involved" and should wait for someone else to act? This would be useful to know not just for this case but for the future too. If you reply I'd once again appreciate a ping :) Thanks. --kingboyk (talk) 09:18, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Comment relating to a block

You should be getting a ping from me asking for clarification of the reason for a block. I thought you might possibly be interested to know that after I had posted that message it occurred to me that there are two things which look very suspicious, but not enough on their own to explain the block, so I shall be very interested if you can provide something more definite. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:42, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

@JamesBWatson: Happy to oblige with my reasoning. A little while ago, an advert was posted on Upwork requesting the creation of an article on the European Cricket League. Last week, that advert was picked up by an Upwork account which operates the Merasian Luineaz sockfarm, and the page Draft:European Cricket League was created (actually, it was created at European Cricket League but was moved to draft while the UPE issue was investigated). I deleted the draft under speedy criterion G5 after blocking Merasian's Anayame account; less than half an hour after I did that, NitramCricket96, an account that had been inactive for more than five years, recreated the page. That doesn't look co-incidental to me, hence the block. Yunshui ^雲_水 06:57, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Together with the "two things which look very suspicious" that I mentioned above, the other information you have given puts it beyond merely "suspicious". JamesBWatson (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

Possible sock of Nadda23

Any idea if this is Nadda23 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)? no edits outside the same topic and removed the UDP tag. Thank you. GSS (talk|c|em) 14:39, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

They are clearly also being paid by CCN, but there's no technical connection between the two accounts; I suspect they are a different freelancer. I've left them a paid editing warning for now. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:03, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Or could be that they actually own the company... Yunshui ^雲_水 07:54, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Yunshui. I saw this thread here and then saw the post at Draft talk:CCN Markets; so, I figured I take a shot at giving a reply. Either this editor is the company founder or they're not since it seems unlikely that the would be another unrelated person with the same name suddenly appearing out of the blue to edit this draft. If they're the founder, then all the COI and PAID stuff would seem to apply; if not, then they're likely just a freelancer who mistakenly believes that using the founder's name will somehow make it easier for them to re-add the draft to the mainspace. In that case, they will need to change that username per WP:IMPERSONATE in addition to complying with COI and PAID. Anyway, if I gave them any bad advice or otherwise posted something wrong, please feel free to correct me. FWIW, the founder does have an article written about him on Norwegian Wikipedia, but have no idea as to whether there's a Norwegian Wikipedia equivalent to WP:BIO. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Your advice was perfectly sound, from what I saw; no worries on that front. Either way, a conflict of interest is very evident. Yunshui ^雲_水 13:43, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Electric Brain

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Assistance sought

Hi, Yunshui. I hope you are doing well. Writing to you after a long absence. I seek some assistance in deleting a list of user subpages I had created in a spurt, over last few years. Hence, this message. I would be grateful if you could help me by deleting my user subpages listed below:

• User:Tamravidhir/Durga Puja
• User:Tamravidhir/Taj Hotels Resorts and Palaces
• User:Tamravidhir/sandbox3
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports Islamic philosophy
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports Hindu philosophy
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports WikiProject Politics
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports Shaktism
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports Yoga
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports Vaishnavism
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports WikiProject Sociology
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports WikiProject Psychology
• User:Tamravidhir/Admires Bahá'í Faith
• User:Tamravidhir/Bade Achhe Lagte Hain/Part2
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports WikiProject Philately
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports WikiProject Philately
• User:Tamravidhir/Supports WikiProject Indian Politics
• User:Tamravidhir/In the scope of Tamravidhir
• User talk:Tamravidhir/In the scope of Tamravidhir
• User talk:Tamravidhir/sandbox
• User talk:Tamravidhir/sandbox2
• User talk:Tamravidhir/Mementoes

The list is long and the task is seemingly daunting. However, I will be thankful if you could help me. These pages seem nothing but mere clutter to me. Will be eagerly looking forward to hear from you soon. --Tamravidhir (talk!) 19:21, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, no probs. Gimme five minutes and I'll make 'em all go red for you. Good to hear from you! Yunshui ^雲_水 19:23, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

That was very prompt and smooth. Thank you so much! Huge relief to see them all red. I hope your work has been going well. :D --Tamravidhir (talk) 19:35, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

My pleasure. Yunshui ^雲_水 19:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Yunshui, Forgot to mention User:Tamravidhir/Supports WikiProject Feminism and User:Tamravidhir/Supports WikiProject Islam yesterday, Would be thankful if these too could be looked into. --Tamravidhir (talk) 11:57, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Done and dusted. Yunshui ^雲_水 12:12, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, so much! --Tamravidhir (talk) 13:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I came across three more pages which I will be thankful if deleted, namely — User talk:Tamravidhir/User India holidayed, User:Tamravidhir/Wishes, and User:Tamravidhir/Awards. Thank you so much! --Tamravidhir (talk) 06:50, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

The last two are redirects to some other page which I do not want to be deleted. --Tamravidhir (talk) 06:52, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Sorted! Yunshui ^雲_水 10:45, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks once again! --Tamravidhir (talk) 11:25, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Regarding spam in Gateway of India

Hi, Yunshui. Please look into the series of spam links added in Gateway of India by User:Raoji patil, despite series of cautions. Looking forward to your prompt response. Thank you! --Tamravidhir (talk) 16:48, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Blocked for spamming his own website all over the shop. Yunshui ^雲_水 17:44, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into it! --Tamravidhir (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Consulting

Hi, Yunshui. Just wanted to know if this can be an alleged WP:RS. --Tamravidhir (talk) 02:40, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

It's maybe not an ideal source - something third-party might be better - but for the purposes of verifying that the station aired a particular program, a link to an archive of that station's program guide seems entirely reasonable. Yunshui ^雲_水 07:59, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Aah, that sounds alright. Thank you! I also left another message for you at User_talk:Yunshui#Assistance_sought, just mentioning in case you overlooked it. --Tamravidhir (talk) 09:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Regarding vandalism at Georgia

Hi, Yunshui. If you may please look into the edits made by User: Halcyon2019 at Georgia (U.S. State) which seem akin to vandalism. Looking forward to your prompt response! --Tamravidhir (talk) 06:42, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Normally that would have been a short block for edit warring, but when you see an edit summary that says they are removing information that is "racist towards whites", you know they're not here for anything constructive. Yunshui ^雲_水 08:04, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Exactly what I noted while going through the edit summaries. Thanks a lot for the response! --Tamravidhir (talk) 09:02, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Sonia Gandhi

Hi, Yunshui. User:Ntu129 has justified adding this information to Sonia Gandhi as a separate section. I am highly doubtful of the same. Would be thankful if you could look into the same. --Tamravidhir (talk) 09:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi Yunshui, there is a related Wikipedia page in which Mrs. Sonia Gandhi has already been mentioned. National Herald corruption case. It has all the relevant citations and news reports wanted by @Tamravidhir Ntu129 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:24, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, the sources used do explicitly mention her by name, and since she's already a public figure, WP:BLPCRIME doesn't apply. Whether it should be a separate section or not is something you guys should discuss on the talkpage - perhaps it should be merged into another section, since at present it's not an especially noteworthy part of her article - but I see no reason to exclude mention of the case altogether. Yunshui ^雲_水 10:43, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

I had been thinking on the same line. Will surely look into it. Thank you! --Tamravidhir (talk) 11:24, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

If you can help me more - it will be great

Hey,

I just got your comment and article which i created is show it may done for payment. It really doesnt matter for me. But it discourages me from editing/using wikkipedia. I have added myself to manu groups to learn more about wikkipedia and there some asked it because he is very famous personality in india.

I just wanted to let u know this.

Leaving wikkipedia forever. Hitesh2617 (talk) 09:49, 12 August 2019 (UTC)