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RfC about independent sources for academic biographies

An RfC which might be of interest to watchers of this page has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Notability (academics)#RfC about independent sources for academic notability to decide the following question:

Current wording: Academics/professors meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable.
Proposed wording: Academics/professors meeting one or more of the following conditions, as substantiated using multiple published, reliable, secondary sources which are independent of the subject and each other, are notable.

Shall the wording in the section Wikipedia:Notability (academics)#Criteria be changed to the proposed wording above?

Editors are welcome to join the discussion. --

no longer living - how does one update?

Laurie passed away on May 4, 2019 https://kaulbachfamilyfuneralhome.com/tribute/details/966/Laurence-Laurie-Montgomery/obituary.html

Nova Scotia legislature lowered Provincial Flag to half mast in his honour on May 8, 2019

Styles of address for British politicians

Many articles for British politicians such as Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn and Margaret Thatcher. These are generally unsourced and I don't think they add anything to the article. Although they take up a relatively small amount of space, they do take up a subsection without any obvious benefit. Should we keep including these subsections? Bellowhead678 (talk) 09:26, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

I normally call them all "Plonkers" except Boris, who is a ****head. -Roxy, the dog. wooF 11:51, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Depends on the article... These sections are helpful when a politician is given a peerage (especially in historical articles). It helps to have a quick reference list that shows that Mr. Joseph Blow is the same person as Lord Hephalump, who then became the Marquis of Puffinstuff. Blueboar (talk) 13:29, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Agree on that front, but both May and Corbyn do not have peerages so it seems unnecessary. Bellowhead678 (talk) 19:14, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Non-notable alumni

The last time I can find that we discussed this here was back in 2008, but as the issue has come up again I was wondering if consensus still holds. Where do we sit with adding non-notable people to lists within articles, in particular to alumni? If they would not qualify for an article, either as an individual or as a significant part of a an event that is covered elsewhere on WP, should they be included in a list within an article? - Bilby (talk) 09:17, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

For a list, alumni should generally qualify for their own article. There are exceptions at WP:CSC, but they probably would not apply.—Bagumba (talk) 09:50, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

I tend to summarily delete them if they're redlinked and no reference has been provided to suggest they may qualify for an article. DonIago (talk) 16:50, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Simjack

A case where identity theft occurred due to date of birth being on Wikipedia.[1] Moral: include only year of birth. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:18, 14 October 2019 (UTC).

That's nonsense. If it were in the article, then whoever wrote the article got it from a source, meaning the information was available to the public before it was on Wikipedia, and would have been public whether or not added to the article. If we can find it out, so could anyone. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 14:49, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

A modicum of courtesy would be appreciated. Take a look at the reference. One notes that the dates of birth of everybody in first world countries are on the official registries of births, deaths and marriages. These take a little effort to obtain: Wikipedia is more readily available. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC).

Noting that the BBC article does only use Wikipedia as an example there, rather than saying it was directly to blame in this case. Quite right, though, it only takes one fan adding a laborious researched date into Wikipedia for Google and famousbirthdays.com and everywhere else to immediately grab it and republish it forever. --Lord Belbury (talk) 19:14, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

True enough. That is why editors who scan BLPs should be on the alert to remove superfluous personal detail under WP:BLP. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:44, 24 October 2019 (UTC).

Issue on Squash biographies

I have been witnessing a major issue when creating articles about former squash biographies for which I am not unable to find their date of births. SquashInfo is the main website which has a collection of all the squash players like what Cricinfo has a collection about cricketers. SquashInfo usually had the data about the date births of players but as of August 2019, the website stopped displaying the date of birth for current and former players. It may be due to the GDPR which could have restricted SquashInfo to display the date of birth of squash players. Even if we try to create the squash players without their birth dates, will it be okay to do that. Abishe (talk) 13:47, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Provided that there is enough reference material about them to demonstrate notability, there is no problem in writing an article about a person whose date of birth is unknown. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 14:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

References for Activists (living)

I am creating a page for a person who is engaged in vegan activism, both as a healthy lifestyle and as an advocate for cruelty-free fashion. If here website and blog focus on these philosophies and benefits, can I use these sites as an External Reference? Or, a different type of reference that you can suggest? I don't feel that they are self-promoting. Sunshinedaydreamwiki (talk) 12:56, 4 November 2019 (UTC)