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because that's how it is used. Also do not merge the slang LGBTQ people use with the slurs hate groups use against us on a definitions page. Imagine trying to look up what a top is and finding all that hate listed. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/47.184.139.49|47.184.139.49]] ([[User talk:47.184.139.49#top|talk]]) 02:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
because that's how it is used. Also do not merge the slang LGBTQ people use with the slurs hate groups use against us on a definitions page. Imagine trying to look up what a top is and finding all that hate listed. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/47.184.139.49|47.184.139.49]] ([[User talk:47.184.139.49#top|talk]]) 02:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: Wikipedia is [[WP:NOTCENSORED]]. If the content is on-topic, and validly sourced using [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], then it should remain. At least, until you can gain [[WP:CONS|consensus]] for removing it based on Wikipedia [[WP:PG|policy and guidelines]]. You could try arguing that it is off-topic, as you seem to be implying, because LGBT people do not use certain of the slurs listed, and see if you get buy-in on that reading of the article topic. I don’t see it that way, but maybe others would. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 09:11, 12 December 2019 (UTC) |
: Wikipedia is [[WP:NOTCENSORED]]. If the content is on-topic, and validly sourced using [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], then it should remain. At least, until you can gain [[WP:CONS|consensus]] for removing it based on Wikipedia [[WP:PG|policy and guidelines]]. You could try arguing that it is off-topic, as you seem to be implying, because LGBT people do not use certain of the slurs listed, and see if you get buy-in on that reading of the article topic. I don’t see it that way, but maybe others would. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 09:11, 12 December 2019 (UTC) |
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SO many of the terms on this list of slang terms re horribly offensive, and could actually be classified as hate speech. Therefore, by merging this already hugely flawed list with the page defining what lgbt slang is (saying that LGBT people use LGBT slang), you are inciting that the words in this list are words accepted by the queer community. This list of LGBT slang trms should not exist - there is no need to have record (especially if it is without contextualisation about how offensive these terms are) of these bullying words. I hope myself and others can edit the page so it contains up to date colloquial language and slang, such as "top" "bottom" "kiki" etc. |
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Edit request [20191127 0031 UTC]:
"Shemale" should definitely be listed as a derogatory slur, equal to if not worse than "trap" andor "tranny". It's a term primarily used by an out-group to ostracize and, in particular, fetishize trans women; it is widely regarded as transphobic, see its use as an "additional gender" completely failing to recognize trans women being women; its use within lgbt communities is negligible if not nonexistent.
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Someone proposed to merge List of LGBT slang here but didn't finish this by starting a topic here. Well, for one, I support the idea. This article already has a list, no need to have two articles unless the list gets too long, and right now it seems manageable. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:36, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
propose to add the Q at the end of LGBT on this page-
because that's how it is used. Also do not merge the slang LGBTQ people use with the slurs hate groups use against us on a definitions page. Imagine trying to look up what a top is and finding all that hate listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.184.139.49 (talk) 02:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED. If the content is on-topic, and validly sourced using reliable sources, then it should remain. At least, until you can gain consensus for removing it based on Wikipedia policy and guidelines. You could try arguing that it is off-topic, as you seem to be implying, because LGBT people do not use certain of the slurs listed, and see if you get buy-in on that reading of the article topic. I don’t see it that way, but maybe others would. Mathglot (talk) 09:11, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
DO NOT MERGE - EDIT THE PAGE!
SO many of the terms on this list of slang terms re horribly offensive, and could actually be classified as hate speech. Therefore, by merging this already hugely flawed list with the page defining what lgbt slang is (saying that LGBT people use LGBT slang), you are inciting that the words in this list are words accepted by the queer community. This list of LGBT slang trms should not exist - there is no need to have record (especially if it is without contextualisation about how offensive these terms are) of these bullying words. I hope myself and others can edit the page so it contains up to date colloquial language and slang, such as "top" "bottom" "kiki" etc.
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