User talk:EdJohnston

Discretionary sanctions

Hello, EdJohnston. I’m not sure what Eastern Europe discretionary sanctions are? I know I had got into a revert war at one point though not the same reverts. But I walked aways from the article days before this report was made by the other user. I had no interest returning to that article. Why am I being sanctioned? The ANI you linked to was made about the other user, I wasn’t part of that ANI or listed there. This is the first time ever someone had reported me. OyMosby (talk) 16:58, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

The AN3 complaint was here. See WP:ARBEE for the arbitration case which applies. The area of the former Yugoslavia is notorious on Wikipedia for edit wars and nationalist arguments. Anyone can issue alerts for that area. You and the other party exchanged a lot of reverts between April 27 and 29, so I'm glad the dispute doesn't seem to be continuing. It is still better to open a WP:Request for comments about whatever is still unresolved, since that brings in other people. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 17:22, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I see so I was not sanctioned? It was simply an alert so that admins keep an eye out? The ARBEE shows no case brought up. Also the article in question deals with the Balkans as well. Which have articles that have been problematic as of late with conflicts. So perhaps the Balkan discretionary board should be alerted to keep an eye put as well. I have no interest in further conflict on those pages. I simply get attacked or in this case a user used the report page to have their way. I may try as you recommended the WP:Request for comments. Thanks. OyMosby (talk) 17:30, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe#Amendments. The wording is: Pages which relate to Eastern Europe or the Balkans, broadly interpreted, are placed under discretionary sanctions. Any uninvolved administrator may levy restrictions as an arbitration enforcement action on users editing in this topic area, after an initial warning. EdJohnston (talk) 17:45, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Right so I am warned this time and if I were to be involved again in a problem in the future, I could face restrictions. This was all new to me so sorry for the confusion. When I saw the word “sanction” it freaked me out a bit. Haha. Thank you for clarifying. I will try to avoid the other user in the future just to be safe. Cheers. OyMosby (talk) 17:49, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

'Sanction' is a poor choice of word. Even in the dictionary it means two opposite things ('sanctioned' to say that a thing is permitted, and 'sanctioned' meaning punished). Sadly this is the word used on Wikipedia. EdJohnston (talk) 17:55, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Understood. Although I personally feel the other party was more in the wrong, I understand I broke a rule too. And will be more mindful. Also by ANI I meant your reference to this report on 30 April at ANI , which I was not part of, in your AN3 post. Just wanted to clarify what I meant. Thanks for the closure and explanation. Take care. OyMosby (talk) 18:08, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Temporarily Blocked

• List of awards and nominations received by Beyoncé (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

EdJohnston (talk) I noticed that I am still blocked from editing the page while Cornerstonepicker who initiated the edit warring is still active deleting awards from the page, It´s unfair how he isn´t blocked but I was. I already posted at the Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Beyoncé#Proposed restoration and WP:Request for comment but still, no one replied and I am still blocked. I hope you reconsider things. Beyhiveboys (Beyhiveboys) 09:54, 02 May 2020 (UTC)

In my opinion you have received an adequate response at Talk:List of awards and nominations received by Beyoncé#Proposed restoration. Wikipedia resists the inclusion of non-notable awards. If non-notable awards are included for other artists they should probably be removed, but that's a separate issue. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. EdJohnston (talk) 16:43, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

I understand that and I will respect that, I won´t awards those deleted awards anymore. I just want to be unblocked from editing Beyonce´s page, it looks messy since someone just kept on deleting and adding shits since I was blocked. Beyhiveboys (Beyhiveboys) 09:54, 05 May 2020 (UTC)

If you have a specific change in mind to make the article less messy, you can propose it on the talk page. Just describe what you want done. EdJohnston (talk) 15:11, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Can you just please unblock me? there are many user who are deleting + adding something on the page without any reason. They are the ones you should blocked.Beyhiveboys (Beyhiveboys) 09:54, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I should lift your partial block so you can resume warring with the others? That does not make sense. The right way is for you to negotiate on the talk page and reach agreement there. EdJohnston (talk) 15:18, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

I already did but still, the blocked was not lifted, you are the one who blocked me per wikipedia. I don´t have the intention to continue the edit warring. Beyhiveboys (Beyhiveboys) 09:54, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

"I already did" — i.e. you believe you received consensus for your change on the talk page. Which editors have expressed agreement with you there? EdJohnston (talk) 16:51, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

If you will check it again, I did and nobody is answering my concern. They also discussed why am I being block while the one who initially started was not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Beyonc%C3%A9#Proposed_restoration. I just hope you will removed the blocked you put. Beyhiveboys (Beyhiveboys) 19:54, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

It may happen that there is a discussion and nobody will answer you. This is regrettable but it doesn't give you permission to go forward. Certainly it doesn't give you consensus. The page at WP:Dispute resolution lists some other options, such as WP:DRN or WP:RFC. Does any of the awards you wish to add have its own Wikipedia article? EdJohnston (talk) 15:08, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Legal threats

Regarding your block of User:Dr Parthiv Ravichandiran, I don't know if you noticed, but User:Periyarist has made the same legal threat though with less words. See this diff. -- Whpq (talk) 01:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. I see you warned User:Periyiarist already; let's see how it goes. EdJohnston (talk) 01:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

3RR report archived

• Maryam Rajavi (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, this report was archived, prematurely it seems. Can someone provide an evaluation of the report? Thank you. MA Javadi (talk) 11:22, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

There are no new reverts by User:Kazemita1 at Maryam Rajavi since the report was filed. So I am not inclined to do anything. If the dispute restarts you can link to this 3RR report as part of your evidence. Meanwhile, User:Vanamonde93 has put put some page restrictions on the Maryam Rajavi article under the WP:GSIP community sanctions. This should help. EdJohnston (talk) 15:19, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Lobsterthermidor and Walsingham

Hi EdJohnston. Thanks for your comments about Thomas Walsingham (died 1457) on closing the AN3 report on User:Lobsterthermidor, here. You mentioned raising an RfC on its talk page - in the light of what's on that page now, what aspect do you see the RfC covering?  —SMALLJIM  22:34, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

It seems there has been a long-running dispute where you may not have much patience for the other party. However, just looking at the talk page, there is enough material there to apply regular WP:Dispute resolution. The thread at Talk:Thomas Walsingham (died 1457)#Problems with the original version of this article lists a number of items where editors have disagreed. You could use that as a basis for an RfC. You could come up with specific alternatives, and ask the commenters on the RfC to pick between the choices. As a person of your experience knows, RfCs are advertised and can bring in people new to the issue. If an RfC is formally closed the result is usually binding. People can be blocked for reverting against the result of an RfC. If you are doubtful about a source you can ask at WP:RSN. EdJohnston (talk) 02:19, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Ed. Yes, he has tried my patience a few times. Seeking community involvement on individual issues sounds like a good way to progress.  —SMALLJIM  23:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Fornovo & Italian War of 1494–1498

• Battle of Fornovo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Italian War of 1494–1498 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This edit is source misrepresentation and original research. Considering it is an IP that continues to edit war their POV into the article, what can be done? They have been warned twice by Materialscientist.

P.S. Hope you and yours are safe and healthy during these crazy times on this planet. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

I've applied three months of semiprotection to each article. For questions like how to describe the outcome of a battle (victory or defeat) the best idea is surely to quote some historians for their opinion. EdJohnston (talk) 01:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Symphony Regalia

I know you do not patrol SPI, but I filed a report on the above user, with whom you have had some familiarity, with commentary here. The alacrity at which they have been following my edits (see below) is quite impressive:

Diffs
Ding Liren (before the last block): me at 16:09, SR at 21:43 COVID-19 misinformation (before the last block): me at 20:45, SR at 22:10) Chinese divisions by population: me at 15:27, IP sock at 20:36 COVID-19 xenophobia: me at 20:57, SR following up with a nonsensical post at 23:10

CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 02:12, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

The case is at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Symphony Regalia. It is funny that this got filed under Architect134. Since A134 is a general-purpose impostor and troublemaker, looking for resemblances there is not going to help us solve this. Essentially you need good evidence that Symphony Regalia and 81.4.100.172 are operated by the same person. (Can't use checkuser for this, have to use behavior). I'm not getting it yet. If you think Symphony Regalia's edits about Covid 19 are disruptive you could ask for a topic ban under WP:GS/COVID but should have very good evidence. (Certainly Symphony Regalia has the potential to be a huge waste of time). But the SPI is weak. A checkuser looked at a Symphony Regalia filing back in March and had this negative comment about the complaint: "Why would you even file this? None of the listed evidence relates in any way to this case..." EdJohnston (talk) 16:05, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Bosnian medieval policy

Why did you protected Santasa edits, his removal of the sourced references?Čeha (razgovor) 13:18, 11 May 2020 (UTC)