Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 29

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on May 29, 2020.

Remineralize The Earth

• Remineralize The Earth → John D. Hamaker  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

deletion because a red link is needed for remineralize the earth so that a new article can detail the work undertaken by this non-profit organization. Mfbx5sf62 (talk) 23:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Comment This can easily be done by overwriting the redirect. Jalen Folf (talk) 03:32, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

What you see is what you get

• What you see is what you get → Geraldine Jones (character)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Could also mean WYSIWYG a computing term 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 22:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Speedy retarget to WYSIWYG. That is the only and previous target - this is so uncontroversial I'm going to be bold and change it myself. CrazyBoy826 23:41, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• @CrazyBoy826: - Wouldn't What You See Is What You Get (disambiguation) make a better target? It's it's own dab page. Hog Farm (talk) 00:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• @Hog Farm: There is a primary target. CrazyBoy826 01:11, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Clerical abuse

• Clerical abuse → Catholic Church sexual abuse cases  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This is not confined to Catholicism. Hog Farm (talk) 21:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Agree it should not redirect to Catholic Church sexual abuse cases. It is misleading and even contributes to a misunderstanding that clergy abuse is limited to the Catholic Church, which is insulting to victims of all clergy sexual abuse. I'm not sure where it should redirect, possibly Religious abuse, but if necessary retitle it to "Clerical abuse in the Catholic Church". Sundayclose (talk) 23:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Retarget to Religious abuse per Sundayclose -2pou (talk) 02:22, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

The Land Before Time XV

• The Land Before Time XV → The Land Before Time#List of titles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unconfirmable WP:CRYSTAL. All third-party search results for this seem to return fan-made ideas without any references to anything concretely official. Steel1943 (talk) 21:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

The Land Before Time Began

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was retarget to The Land Before Time (film). Works for me. (This is akin to a discussion withdraw.) (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 22:29, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• The Land Before Time Began → The Land Before Time  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Doesn't seem like a citable or a commonly-used misnomer for the target. Likelihood offers her using the extra word at the end is next to none. Steel1943 (talk) 21:14, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• KeepRetarget to The Land Before Time (film) - It's a working title for the film, see [2]. Hog Farm (talk) 21:41, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Tree Stars

• Tree Stars → The Land Before Time  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Unclear what this refers to... Steel1943 (talk) 21:12, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete, a minor fictional name for tree leaves. A Google search mostly brings up results for a brand of weed. Hog Farm (talk) 21:44, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Rocket launch site

• Rocket launch site → List of rocket launch sites  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

The term "rocket launch site" is summarized on spaceport, not on the target article. Better retargeting it to spaceport. Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 14:55, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

• Retarget per nom. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep. Spaceport explains that not all rocket launch sites are called spaceports. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:27, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Charlie and the Party Smashers

• Charlie and the Party Smashers → Hollywood Undead  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target, when searching online the only results are Wikipedia metadata generated by this redirect. Delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

BGY plan

• BGY plan → Guo Wengui  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• 3F plan → Guo Wengui  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete all per nom. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 21:08, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Overshoot (epidemiology)

• Overshoot (epidemiology) → Herd immunity  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

"Overshoot" is not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 19:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Comment For what it's worth, the concept is explained here and here. TompaDompa (talk) 22:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I'll see if I can't write a paragraph or so about it in the next few days. TompaDompa (talk) 00:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Gangsta rap (disambiguation)

• Gangsta rap (disambiguation) → Gangsta  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

There seems to be only one topic on the dab page Gangsta with the title "Gangsta rap", doesn't seem to be necessary. Hog Farm (talk) 18:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom as unnecessary. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 19:04, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Bum gravy

• Bum gravy → Diarrhea  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

A Google search does not seem to indicate that this is a common term, or that it is used exclusively for diarrhea. Google search brought up various sexual practices, a NN band that produced an album titled "Excretion", and a prank about Nutella. Not commonly used for this topic Hog Farm (talk) 18:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Implausible search term as well. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 19:05, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• delete as obscure synonym at best --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Midnight crazies

• Midnight crazies → Cat  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at target article. Delete unless a justification can be proven. OcelotCreeper (talk) 17:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete pe nom; I don't see what this has to do with cats. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per nom, not evident relation to cats. Hog Farm (talk) 18:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:14, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete what? CrazyBoy826 01:12, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Molderland

• Molderland → Moldavia  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target, no hits on Google Scholar. The spelling suggests that it could be a German term, but there's no entry on deWiki either. Delete unless a justification can be provided. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:37, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete. I could find nothing at all. The German names for Moldavia/Moldova and so on all derive from "Moldau", and changing -au to -er strikes me as highly implausible; it's not how German works. I can find no evidence that "mold", "molde", "molden" or "molder" exist in German. Narky Blert (talk) 04:25, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep. Hello guys, sorry I left the job unfinished, after the redirection I should have added more relevant info on the Moldavia article, which now | I have just done. Thank you and sorry for any incoveniences. 13:38, 13 May 2020 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caliniuc (talk • contribs)

• Who is this? Use your signature correctly 3125A^{Talk!_{Contributions!}} 15:54, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@3125A: It's probably not a good idea for someone who has a problematic line-stretching signature to tell someone to "use your signature correctly". To answer the "Who is this?" question, that can be answered by looking at the page history. The edit was made by Caliniuc at 13:38, 13 May 2020. Using {{unsigned}} would be a better way to resolve the issue, which I am applying with this edit to show how it's done. -- Tavix ^(talk) 15:59, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 22:22, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete "Molderland" was not directly sourced (inference only), and could be regarded as insulting. --Bejnar (talk) 04:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Deryck C. 16:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom; almost nonexistent search term. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:13, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Murder of George Floyd

• Murder of George Floyd → Death of George Floyd  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

George Floyd was not murdered. CrazyBoy826 15:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Keep maybe not, but a ,lot of people will look up that exact term, because they do not agree.Slatersteven (talk) 15:57, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete for now – Would not be opposed to re-opening when more definitive information is released from reliable sources, although this somewhat conflicts with the ongoing move discussion on the linked page, so we should probably let that finish before closing this. Jdcomix (talk) 16:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep. Enough sources have called it a murder, so it's plausible that people would search using this term to find the article. -- Tavix ^(talk) 16:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep It has been called murder (or death or killing) in reliable sources. Useful redirect. --Thi (talk) 17:00, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete – Murder is a legal term. Referring to this as a murder in WP:WikiVoice would constitute a WP:BLPCRIME violation (and might even be libellous), as nobody has been convicted thereof (though that may change). That's enough of a reason not to use it in the title of an article or a redirect either. I don't find the argument that people will look up this exact term particularly convincing as a reason to keep it, because the article that is the target of the redirect (Death of George Floyd) is one of the first search results when searching for the title of this redirect anyway – people will find the article they are looking for even without the redirect, so the redirect is not necessary. TompaDompa (talk) 17:03, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • For what it's worth, the officer has since been arrested and charged with murder. [3]. -- Tavix ^(talk) 18:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per TompaDompa and nom. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:18, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete - it's libellous. Jim Michael (talk) 20:01, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• I don't have time for a full comment but please bear in mind RNEUTRAL when casting your !vote. — J947 ^[cont] 21:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:RNEUTRAL as stated above. Many people do believe he was murdered, so this is an entirely plausible search term. CycloneYoris ^talk! 01:06, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep There are plenty of people on Google Trends searching for Murder of George Floyd—SpanishSnake (talk | contribs) 01:26, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep - McMichael was charged with murder, making this a very plausible search term. Guettarda (talk) 02:01, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• Keep - At least until or if proven otherwise. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:54, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete - there has been no conviction as of yet and therefor no murder. If that changes the main article will likely be moved to that title, and there will be no reason for a redirect anyway. 172.101.5.82 (talk) 04:11, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
• Comment Section reflist added. Jalen Folf (talk) 03:33, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

References

BeritaSatu Medan and O Channel Medan

• BeritaSatu Medan → BeritaSatu  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]

• O Channel Medan → O Channel  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete, because AFAIK BeritaSatu and O Channel currently do not have regional transmitters in Medan -ArdiPras95 (talk) 07:43, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

PK-35

• PK-35 → PK-35 Vantaa  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Spitzmauskc proposed this redirect for deletion with the following rationale. Misleading redirect to PK-35 Vantaa, implying that any instance of “PK-35” is a specific reference to that club. “PK-35” is most commonly used when referring to the independent football club of that name based in Helsinki, whereas the name “PK-35 Vantaa” is most commonly used when referring to the independent football club based in Vantaa, Finland. Both clubs field teams in the Kansallinen Liiga and the common forms of their names can be seen in use here: https://www.palloliitto.fi/ottelut-ja-sarjat/kansallinen-liiga/kansallinen-liiga-info (in Finnish). _signed, Rosguill ^talk 06:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Disambiguate. I've added a draft. We have no articles equivalent to fi:Pallokerho-35, fi:Pallokerho-35 (naiset), fi:PK-35 Vantaa (naiset) or fi:PK-35 Vantaa (miehet); so what Spitzmauskc says may be true, but we have no targets. Narky Blert (talk) 10:30, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Dab per Narky Blert. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:19, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

COVID-02 epidemic

• COVID-02 epidemic → 2002–2004 SARS outbreak  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

This, this, and this. CrazyBoy826 03:36, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Speedy as it is recently created and implausible. --Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 05:22, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete as WP:MADEUP. Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 16#COVID-02 (linked by nom) is exactly on point. Narky Blert (talk) 10:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
• Delete per above. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:20, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Lettic Germans

• Lettic Germans → Baltic Germans  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

As far as I can establish, the term "Lettic Germans" doesn't exist in English, so doesn't constitute a plausible search term Ingratis (talk) 03:06, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ingratis: the analogue is Estonian Germans, which is a redirect at the moment. Maybe both should be deleted. Compare eg Estonian diaspora in Germany (et:Saksamaa eestlased)--Estopedist1 (talk) 11:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

@Estopedist1: - Apologies - I've not made myself clear. The problem I'm having is not with the concept, but specifically with the word "Lettic". If what is intended here is "ethnic Germans in Latvia", it needs to be "Latvian Germans" (or in theory "Lettonian Germans", or if you want to be really old-fashioned, "Lettish Germans"). "Lettic" is a really rare word and in practice seems to apply almost exclusively to linguistics (whatever Wiktionary may say). The reason why I don't see any point in it as a redirect is that it's so unlikely as a search term. Ingratis (talk) 11:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

• Delete per Ingratis above. --Stay safe, ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 18:21, 29 May 2020 (UTC)