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Swastika edit revert

Hello Chariotrider555, you recently reverted an edit I made to the short description of the Swastika article. You didn't provide a reason for reverting, which is considered poor form on Wikipedia. Would you care to tell me why you did so? Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 04:48, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the edit due to the fact that the swastika was also used as a religious symbol in Europe, not just in the East. To be fair you did not provide a edit summary either. Chariotrider555 (talk) 14:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Providing an edit summary is not the same as providing a reason to revert someone's edit. I'm under the impression that the Swastika is of Eastern origins, so in the interests of keeping the s/d short, I think that's all that should be mentioned, not every part of the world where it has been used symbolically. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:30, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well even in the lead section, it is described as a Eurasian symbol, as it was very popular in pre-Christian Europe. Chariotrider555 (talk) 14:41, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There, how's that as a compromise? Swastika. Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 16:03, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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That was not me who was editing when logged out. I only reverted the fire star heats’s revert my edit once, but it appears someone else reverted it afterwards. I know what my IP address is and I did not edit the Hindu mythological wars article while logged out. Chariotrider555 (talk) 14:28, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Genetics

We do not add genetics in caste/community articles of India/South Asia as per consensus at WP:INB. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Indo-Aryan migration

You're right diff; I misread. Thanks! Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 14:07, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Subh Diwali

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Thank you. Firestar464 (talk) 06:37, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Plz don't add ancestry claim on various article

The content specifically don't talks about the specific clan of Rajputs but applies to Rajputs as a whole . so plz don't add that in various article. It seems WP:UNDUE Heba Aisha (talk) 18:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, seems fair.Chariotrider555 (talk) 18:06, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually these content have a history and I was the one along with LukeEmily who added and retained these ancestry thing on Rajput article. You can read talk page. There was disturbance from a particular user called Sajaypal007 who wanted to remove it anyhow. But it is not needed in all articles. Heba Aisha (talk) 18:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you adding baseless opinion with no historical facts in the community page of Rajputs, just to vandalize the page Rana of Bharat (talk) 15:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These do not qualify as baseless opinions. They are historical facts supported by credible, verifiable sources that give valuable information on the claimed ancestry of Rajput groups. Chariotrider555 (talk) 15:45, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How are they credible historical facts that give valuable information on the ancestry of Rajputs? How is somebody writing article with no idea about Rajput clan system in 1980s, 2010s becomes historical facts. Sir, with due respect you need to leave your casteist lenses. You allow baseless nonsense only about a particular community on Wikipedia Rana of Bharat (talk) 15:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A systematic vandalism of Rajput page at the behest of certain non-rajput group is being allowed by you people. Why? You don't allow the similar articles on other community page. But allow any bs of 2010 against Rajputs. Why? Are you being a part of a poliagenda Rana of Bharat (talk) 15:51, 19 November 2020

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I saw your edit to Page Pathani. Clan origins in Uttarakhand are mentioned in traditional ballads called panwadas/jagaris which affirm the mulpurush - original person, aspad - place of descent. These jagaris are the basis of ancestory claims please keep this in mind before indulging in uninformed editing.

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Varuni

Hello! Thanks for your contributions. I agree with your removal of reference from the article Varuni. But please consider removing the ref, not the entire content. .💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 06:50, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can either search another ref by yourself or just inform me. .💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 07:03, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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OnlyTruthShallPrevail (talk) 20:48, 25 November 2020 (UTC) OnlyTruthShallPrevail Please help improve Jadeja article by adding proper citation.[reply]

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Collaboration proposal

Hello! It's a relief that you are back. If you have checked my contributions, then you must be knowing that I am MAHABHARATA lover. I try to develop articles related to it and most of them are atleast readable. But on the other hand, articles related to Ramayana are in VERY POOR CONDITION and needs development.

Let's work together If you are ready, then please reply. Our first target should be Dasharatha.

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Congrats...dude for ur return.....don't engage in edit wars again. There are other ways to make urself heard. Agreed with 245CMR, not only Ramayana but indian mythology related articles are in poor state overall.Heba Aisha (talk) 19:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw your message on the Wikiproject Hinduism talk page that Ramayana articles need fixing, but I don't think anyone reads that. Ramayana articles definitely need working on. They need many more reliable sources as they currently are just a mishmash of original research. They need to be clearly organized with lots of reliable sources. 22:56, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@Heba Aisha: For now Dasharatha, Kaushalya, etc. are in very poor state. We should first make it readable. And pls don't forget to use { { p i n g } }, so that notification is received .💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 08:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've been blasted by vandals on Wikipedia.

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		Hi, and thank you for your contribs. We appreciate them a lot, and when vandals hate you, it's a sign that you're doing something right! I hope you continue your contributions and make Wikipedia a better place. Thank you! Firestar464 (talk) 01:11, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Wikipedia has a bit of a problem with caste promoters, who will delete anything that goes against their preconceived notions of their caste's history/origin.01:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Chariotrider555 plz sign ur comments properly.Heba Aisha (talk) 04:32, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tomaras

Added about Tomara Rajput indentity from High quality sources of Romila Thapar Satish Chandra and Chaurasia Dont remove and ads controversial Versions and Best stop posting Talk messsage on A Film Article u are giving opportunity to U like Ravi Mavi who are Promoting their own Caste and stealing other past let the movie article stay as it is. Samboy 01681 (talk) 02:09, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please use the talk page to establish a consensus instead of adding content directly into the article when there is a content dispute.Chariotrider555 (talk) 02:13, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Its impossibke to add Definate part about History Diff historians have diff point of View But Your Claim that Rajput dont exist before 16th century is nonsense to hell. Samboy 01681 (talk) 02:20, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also in my advice remove caste status entirely from Such page or Atleast dont use Caste status on Movie Articles. Also Its highly unlikely To trust one source I add about Rajput era page from Chaurasia book too now dont remove that content. Samboy 01681 (talk) 02:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I add plenty of Source on Talk Page too.Samboy 01681 (talk) 03:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral View

Also Even Way of adding anachronism is Wrong U should add They were classified As Rajput Clans in later period although Rajput identity probably dont exist during their time. This is far neutral and less POV Pushing adding they Originate in 16th century is Controversial,Also dont add Caste Issues on Bollywood Film Articles . Samboy 01681 (talk) 03:22, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry If I am Rude

Sorry If I am Rude Mate but fact is Creating Caste Wars on Bollywood Movies article is really Not Right Also There is nothing Wrong in Presenting Prithviraj as Rajput I quote Many sources in Tomara talk Page Also its my right To Clean my own Talk Page And I am within my rights To remove those messages which i dont like from my Talk page. Better we shouldnt add meaningless Wars on Movie Articles and No one will reply either apart From those who Only Wrote to Say Rajput have no Past Now I know U guys are Targeting Me and i will be blocked Cheers.Samboy 01681 (talk) 06:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jarasandha

Rawani rajputs are the real descendants of jarasandha there are many proofs which proves that the rawank rajput are the descendants of jarasandh like rajput vansvali, kshtriya vansharno, and aslo a letter of 1912 which is given by britihsh government and this is clearly mentioned in that rawani aur the descendants of jarasandha a rajput king of magadh.... भँवर युवराज सिंह पुरुवंशी (talk) 13:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

help

Dear a person blocked me permanently. can you do some help . pls check (origin of gurjar pratihar). then, you will realised that there was nothing like to block permanently. I may be rude but didn't abused or said anything wrong to anybody. I can't used this account as it is not mine just took a help one of my friend just to contact you.

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by YtiVya (talk • contribs) 16:15, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kurmi

Thanks for reverting this. That is an old vandal. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stop edit war

Requesting you again not to vandalize jadeja page. Please add direct references on the talk page pertaining to Jadeja Dynasty. Do you have any personal grudge against this community? Wikipedia is not a place to settle such scores, that too without direct references. You have been blocked before for engaging in edit war, hence requesting you to discuss your proposed edits on talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OnlyTruthShallPrevail (talk • contribs) 05:53, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah man this dude is vandalizing things without even knowing the Godamn stuff Weeabo-kun2198 (talk) 19:35, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One more request to avoid edit war vandalism on Jadeja article

Again requesting you to back your statements with reference on Talk. We are trying to build consensus on the article and you have repeatedly brought in baseless statements without any direct reference. When we provide direct reference contradicting to tour statements, you say those references are not reliable and make another baseless statement. This fits into Vandalism on Wikipedia category, and you are requested to stop it. If you continue it, you will be reported and likely be blocked from editing any article on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OnlyTruthShallPrevail (talk • contribs) 19:01, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss it on the talk page rather than threatening me here. I have provided numerous references stating the idea that Jadejas descent from Krishna and the Chandravanshi is complete fabrications. If you cannot provide a modern, academically published, secondary source to back up your claims, it does not belong on wikipedia. My actions do not qualify as vandalism, as I have continued to provide references for my statements, and I want to make sure any claims you bring to the table are supported by reliable sources. Chariotrider555 (talk) 19:07, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Rajput Identity

So, if we go by Talbot (2015), Rawal Jaisal should also be removed from the list but you did not remove him. Please explain. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 04:37, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lol I actually was in the process of removing him the other day but I left to do some other work and forgot. I was gonna go through the entire list and confirm with other sources that they were indeed Rajputs, but some more important work came up. Thanks for reminding me! Chariotrider555 (talk) 04:39, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is just a list of famous Rajputs and Tablot didn't say Prithviraj wasnt a Rajput. She said he has been described as Rajput in a bit later text. Also why to remove a figure who has been said Rajput by Satish Chandra, Jadunath Sarkar and many others? I am giving u a link to Kaushik Roy page which mention Prithviraj as a Rajput.

Roy, Kaushik (2020-11-04). Military Thought of Asia: From the Bronze Age to the Information Age. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-000-21079-8. You will find that it is a secondary source anyway. By same token The term India Rajasthan Elephant all came in existence in later times. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 06:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the link books.google.co.in/books?redir_esc=y&id=XG76DwAAQBAJ&q=Rajput#v=snippet&q=Rajput&f=false Abhishek0831996 (talk) 06:30, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)

Chariotrider, I agree with Abhishek. There are good sources which confirms Rajput identity. Also, Satish chandra is considered one of the best source as he is neither a socialist historian nor a nationalist historian.I think the page is perfect right now. Heba Aisha (talk) 09:31, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While I agree that they do qualify as WP:RS, then there is an inconsistency between the pages on whether Pritviraj Chauhan was a Rajput or not. On Prithviraj Chauhan, it says he is not a Rajput, whereas on List of Rajputs, he is mentioned. If Talbot (2015) is saying that the Chahamanas (which Prithviraj belonged to) didn't identify as Rajputs, and that the Rajput classification was of later doing, how can it be included on a list of Rajputs. Different reliable sources differ on whether Prithviraj was a Rajput or not. There needs to be a consensus among these pages on whether all these Ghurid invasion era dynasties were Rajputs or not. Chariotrider555 (talk) 20:23, 12 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding blanking

Hello, I m bit concerned about latest edits of yours in which you are removing huge content from minor caste articles. I know intentions are good as People of India (state series) is not considered reliable for controversial matters. But these articles were visited by senior editors who also know the aforementioned fact and they didn't try to remove that source and content as these castes have very little choice. Some of them could also be notable ex:Thathera ,so its not possible to nominate all for delition. So, by the time I want an assurance from you to discuss with me before blanking such articles as I could see good content being removed in some of them. Lest, I have no doubt on ur competency. I have nominated two of the articles which you edited for delition, you may keep ur views there and have undone some of ur edits. Plz notify me through ping on their talk pages for content related matters. I m in the process of improving many caste articles. Heba Aisha (talk) 00:13, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I just doubt the authenticity of content supported by the People of India series, gazetteers, and censuses. Minor castes don't have as much high quality sources about them (at least that I can find), and we don't know which content of the People of India series and other low quality sources is just straight up concoctions and what is actually true. Leaving ^{[better source needed]} next to citations may be a good strategy, but I fear they might be left there for eternity as barely anyone edits some of these pages. Small, minor articles everywhere suffer from this problem I guess; not every article can be supported by top tier sources. Chariotrider555 (talk) 00:28, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, I will try to expand them (of course with ur help) see my version of Nishad, Mallah and Teli also Paswan. These all were stub.But I expanded them.Heba Aisha (talk) 03:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Heba Aisha: Well, at least those castes had a decent chunk modern reliable sources that could be cited. Some minor castes like Thathera, Sodari, Kirar, Teli have few modern, reliable sources to back up any claims that the unreliable sources proclaim. Most of the stuff on those pages is nonsense and likely nonsense supported by those known unreliable sources. I say if a modern reliable source doesn't confirm what those unreliable sources claim, they we call BS and have it removed. Some of these articles could qualify for WP:PERMASTUB, given how much content reliable sources have on it. Who knows how much bs was just made up when creating those unreliable sources. I would rather have a reliably sourced permastub than an unreliably sourced mid-size article. At least we would know that this is a minor caste and not have undue weight given to it. Could you explain how you would POV reduce an unreliably sourced claim? Chariotrider555 (talk) 23:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the claims are mentioned as folklores in modern sources.example: social historian Badri Narayan's 3 books fascinating Hindutva, women heroes Dalit assertion and one another have lot of such claims which could be used as reliable source. For example: They have described the beliefs of Paswan community, Mallah community etc and if you want expansion of minor caste articles you can find stuff related to them in those books. In fact claims surrounding a caste forms a significant portion of every caste articles. We should just care that these claims should be presented as claims only backed by sources.Heba Aisha (talk) 00:16, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated Surwar which you expanded for delition as I think there is nothing worth telling about the topic except Rajputization, which is present in number of other articles. The actual content is just one sentence. You may also put ur view on delition page.Heba Aisha (talk) 02:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I provided info in my talk page have you checked it yet? Now restore my Edits since you removed them without knowing the thing

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Thank you, User:245CMR! Chariotrider555 (talk) 19:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Ok, thanks for the heads up. Chariotrider555 (talk) 06:12, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mahar Untouchability

There is a discussion left on Mahar talk page please reply there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sid.ghodeswars (talk • contribs) 05:25, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I have notified User:Ashish Saikia of the discussion at ANI. Cheers. Aloha27 talk 02:43, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh sorry my bad, I had typed out the message on their talk page but I forgot to publish. Thanks! Chariotrider555 (talk) 03:06, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rajput Dynasties Page

Hi Chariot rider, I saw that you reverted my edits on Rajput dynasties page, I had already mentioned in the edit that I am providing sources in the next edit, still you did not wait for me to add references and deleted my edit, I have already included both the view points as a conflict resolution by ravensfire, and added sources of esteemed historians like CV Vaidya, GH Ojha & Yogendra Mishra who lived and worked in India, unlike foreign authors who based their hypothesis without even visiting the contemporary sources, In historical discussions contemporary sources are valued much more than secondary sources, never mind I have added the references. Bhojpal1234 (talk) 18:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]