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Criticism

STOIP TRYING TO MAKE THIS LOOK GOOD. THIS IS VERY BIASED. PLEASE BELIEVE MEE!!140.198.45.65 (talk) 02:02, 3 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article really is rubbish. A ludicrous 'history', a literally random selection of individuals some of whom had no conception of world government whatsoever, while leaving out many who did actually promote the idea, then an equally random section about regional unions without any explanation about how that ties in with the idea of world government; it's entirely incoherent. Can anyone explain what is the intended aim of this article, and if they can, could they re-write the article? --JHumphries (talk) 18:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge from Global governance?

Hi, I noticed there is a separate article for Global Governance (and it's pretty awful). It looks like that article is duplicating the subject of this one, while focusing more on political theory. But I wanted to check what people here think before endorsing a merge. MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 17:25, 13 March 2010 (UTC) Its topic is far different, the article would be much larger, but I support this idea.Rolyatleahcim (talk) 01:36, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad this was brought up. Skimming over the contents of global governance, I can find no section that would be individually out-of-place in an article with this title.
If you asked the average layperson what the difference was between "world government" and "global governance," I doubt they'd be able to tell you. If there were a clear difference, there would probably be a link to global governance in the "for [x], see [y]" section at the top of this article. (Off-topic: does that type of section have a name?)
Even if consensus is to keep this article separate from its twin, I believe that both need such links, because despite their redundancies each is incomplete without the other. For instance, I came to this article to read about criticism of the idea of world government. There's no section on that topic here. Although the other article has none either, it looks to be the only place on Wikipedia where that topic is explored.
Despite all this, I'm not sure that one article is sufficient to cover everything the twin articles do. I'm in favor of merging them but having the result be no longer than this article. Some offshoots will likely be necessary. Elmsbye (talk) 23:57, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"The political unity of the Muslim Ummah"

This material is a copy-and-paste from the Caliphate article. As WP:NOR I am aware that some hold the aspiration of making this a world government, but the Caliphate article goes no further than "pan-Islamic state". I suggest that without citations and a proper explanation it has no place here. Removed again.--Old Moonraker (talk) 16:45, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shortened account, now referenced, added. I'm still not overwhelmingly convinced that it has a place here and other contributors' oversight of the edit would be welcome.--Old Moonraker (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World governments in fiction split it in to two article

Please add you opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Islamuslim (talk • contribs) 05:12, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It has been done - World government in fiction. SilkTork *YES! 16:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

World Government article with no mention of the bilderberg group

I think the bilderberg group is beyond relevant to this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.132.197 (talk) 20:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


they're already listed

look at "Current global governance system" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.178.119.229 (talk) 10:20, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Google

Please to redirect "Google" here. Kthx. 204.210.162.218 (talk) 22:50, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:36, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Because they are the world's governing body. They have the right to do anything they like, whenever they like, to whomever they like, and no government can stop them. 204.210.162.218 (talk) 17:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nonsense. The (US) FTC (and probably the European Union Privacy Commission) has forced them to make some changes in their privacy polices. They settled a lawsuit for copyright violation against Google Books; in fact, my parents had the right to get some money from Google for posting excerpts from their books. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:38, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

"He was exiled from many countries even though many people had great respect for him. The Netherlands is one of the few places that he was exiled from. He had no desire to return there for he knew that he was guilty. " "He was exiled from many countries" "The Netherlands is one of the few places that he was exiled from" "Many countries" or "few place"s? 46.64.52.117 (talk) 12:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Link?

Why is there no link to the official site of the world government? --ಠ_ಠ node.ue ಠ_ಠ (talk) 07:25, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What? There isn't a world government, therefore there is no official site to link to... John Shandy` • talk 15:03, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Obscure acronym

I'm not sure what the acronym FWG means in the "The end of the Cold War (1991)" section. "Federal world Government" perhaps? I suggest changing it to clarify the section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.126.203.251 (talk) 23:53, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Conspiracy theory?

I just wanted to know why "Conspiracy Theory" in parenthesis is next to the New world Order? It's confusing somewhat because I've heard several Presidents as well as various heads of state from numerous countries. It's been mentioned and referenced as a point of topic during SOTU addresses and U.N. Assemblies, and always in the same context. Seems to be a pretty legit topic discussed widely by and within the mainstream media. Not sure if this is the proper venue to raise this question so I raised it anyway. Just somewhat curious is all. Thanks , Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.19.143 (talk) 05:39, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Inadequate lead

The article's lead is way too short, no way three sentences can summarize it. Also it gets dwarfed by four sentences about redirects (and now a template, sorry, but I feel it is needed and, hopefully will not stay long). Also, out of only three sentences one half of the last one seems to my as opinionated, POV-ish, implying that "cooperation of nations" can not be a form of world government (I don't know if it can be, but presume it is not excluded either) - Nabla (talk) 19:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello a very simple method to make a WORLD GOVERNMENT I have discovered. please download article of it and then read it carefully and then explain it to people of America and then coerce government of America to do it for people of other countries. it is two pages.

http://myvegetarianism.mihanblog.com/post/1420

thanks a lot

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Alexander the Great and Other Historical GLobal Expansionist Empires

Global Expansionist Global States aspirations are as old as Alexander the Great, The Persian Empire and the Romans, shouldn't ancient empires desiring to conquer the globe be mentioned too? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.64.95.151 (talk) 12:46, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No these are totally different concepts in different time periods. Île flottante (talk) 17:35, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
These fall under this article’s title. World empire is an ancient concept. A world empire obviously establishes a world government. Even the Sumerians thought they were close to control the four corners of the world. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 19:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone tag this article with "better sources needed" or "unsourced"?

Thank you. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 19:22, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Pop-culture "non-WP:RS"?

@Nikkimaria: Your latest edit which removes the pop culture section is based on the premise that it is a non-reliable source, do you mean with this that - a. - the examples shown in the pop-culture section aren't reliable examples of a World Government? or - b. - that those pop-culture references don't have references to their exact examples for such World Governments that they display? (If the last one, can we link to a wikia/fandom wiki of origin that'd display the World Government in question?)

In any case, I think keeping the pop culture section would help a lot with envisioning World Governments, or maybe change/merge it into a "in Fiction" section, in my opinion. Shadowjonathan (talk) 12:21, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Such a section would need reliable sources indicating the significance of the references to the topic, and Fandom is not a reliable source. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:01, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I think the significance of pop culture/fictive references to World Governments, when a World Government does not actually exist, would actually be of use when trying to shape an accurate view on the subject, so why not keep them in regardless? I think they're significant, but I question the need for a reliable source on the subject of it can be cited/referenced/found in the original article on the show, or would that need a direct reference to an instance in the original fiction work where such a government structure is referenced? How exactly do we "verify" fictional elements, anyway?
My point stands, I think they're significant to the article in question (a World Government), but I'm confused as to how exactly you want a "reliable source" to fictive elements in a fictive story/world. Shadowjonathan (talk) 14:39, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In general, there are plenty of reliable sources that discuss fictive elements in works of fiction. The question is whether there are any reliable sources discussing these specific fictive elements. If no, then they should not be included. See this RfC. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:05, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, that clears up some things, and I can work with that, thank you! Shadowjonathan (talk) 11:40, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nikkimaria: I added references to the content that I added about Star Trek, from memory-alpha, almost the entire references about star trek articles are taken from this website, if memory-alpha isn't a "reliable source", maybe I could try the specific reference to the episode or use a star trek official webpage. Is it okay? Xillegas (talk) 15:07, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Xillegas, Memory-Alpha not a reliable source, and in this case referencing the episode would be a primary source. See the RfC link I posted above for more information about what kinds of sourcing should be included for pop-culture entries. Nikkimaria (talk) 22:04, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Nikkimaria: The article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Federation_of_Planets use primary sources, could I use it here too? I guess I can do the same thing here, Is it okay? Reading this RfC I guess this article primarly sources isn't properly cited. Xillegas (talk) 20:48, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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