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Semi-protected edit request on 18 August 2019
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going to add minor details dan has mentioned in game grumps that havent been covered yet Hadyobro (talk) 07:35, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. Please make a precise request. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
New Skyhill release
Skyhill just released a new song, "Howling at the Moon", on their YouTube channel. The early "Career" section should be updated to include this
174.126.165.64 (talk) 06:48, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Northern Hues discography
Just to clarify a thing, the World Cafe Live is *not* an official release but a bootleg that was made available to fans by Justin Early, the original bassist for the group. Source: me! I was the fan who Justin shared the show with and I made it available via a TNH fanblog I was running at the time. 🙂 Rubydynamite (talk) 04:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Smol correction - it was Aron Brand, the rhythm guitarist, who shared it with me, my b! Rubydynamite (talk) 04:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
Sexual abuse allegations
It appeared to die out since it was removed from this article. Unless more information adds up, this is what I wrote: "On March 21 2021, Avidan faced some controversy when he was accused of grooming by an anonymous woman. In a Reddit thread on r/antGrumps, she alleged that she was groomed when she was underaged, complete with screenshots of text conversations and video footage. The threads were later removed." Newsweek Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 15:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- I added the info to the article. The controversy seems notable enough. X-Editor (talk) 03:20, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- The information was a rumor that circulated for not much longer than a day before being debunked. It was notable for a few days and no longer is. And only notable enough for one source to be cited with little to no legitimate information. Citing this article which only quotes a Reddit user is the equivalent of citing a CNN expose of Qanon to add accusations of cannibalism on every celebrities wikipedia article based on quotes from forum posts by conspiracy theorists. The reason why there are issues with the information given is that we are talking about Reddit posts. We should not be discussing Reddit posts on wikipedia in the first place. We should not be referencing Reddit posts on wikipedia. This is absoluetely ridiculous. 2603:8001:BD01:7DFE:9085:1734:4573:2B8D (talk) 23:51, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- I added the info to the article. The controversy seems notable enough. X-Editor (talk) 03:20, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- This information isn't correct. The Reddit post was not created by the woman in question, and the woman did not accuse Dan of grooming. That was conjecture on the part of others spreading the accusations. Additionally, the person saying "the Reddit thread maybe really didn't have the most trustworthy evidence aside from maybe the video" wasn't the original poster of the Reddit thread as the article claims, but someone who had reposted a screenshot of the Reddit thread to Twitter. Whoever wrote that article definitely didn't do their due diligence for either the original article or the update they later had to make to clarify the falsehoods of the original article. Harrisonisdead (talk) 20:26, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2021
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Remove controversy topic and information. The original poster of the controversy stated one out of the three images involved was not actually Dan, and furthermore stated that they do not believe Dan is a groomer. On top of that, the subject of the controversy has come out and said they had a sexual relationship but did not know each other past a single conversation at 17 until she was 22.
Having this information only further defames Dan over false allegations and should not be included on his wiki. Cashmen123 (talk) 22:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Not done The response to the allegations is addressed in a reliable source. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 22:34, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Remove false mentions of grooming (truthfully the entire controversy should be removed)
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"Avidan was accused of grooming by an anonymous woman, who alleged she was groomed when she was underaged," This is entirely untrue. The women made no allegations that she was groomed, she actually even came out and said she did not feel she was groomed, but she felt he abused his personality-fan power dynamic. Regardless, no allegations of grooming were made, those allegations were assumed by the reddit post, which is why it was taken down in the first place.
Having the entire controversy section on his page is also continues to push a dishonest narrative from a subreddit who frequently tries to start drama about GameGrumps. Grooming should not be mentioned AT ALL as there was no actual allegations or evidence grooming took place, and keeping that false narrative here only aides in a dishonest push to besmirch Dan. Cashmen123 (talk) 16:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Not done. Making the same request that was denied already isn't going to make it happen. This was covered in a reliable source, and Avidan addressed the issue himself, which is also covered in a reliable source. Please feel free to start a request for comments if you want to discuss the suitability of this information in the article. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 17:12, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Controversy section is misleading, contradictory and possibly malicious. Dan Avidan did address the incident but the issue addressed by Avidan was about meeting with an adult fan of his. If not removed the section should be edited to state more clearly that false claims were made without evidence and were retracted shortly afterwards. As the section stands it confuses the reader and attempts to legitimize rumors from unreliable sources. Its claimed that the source is reliable but the cited source within its own article states that it was using unreliable sources itself. At no point was any of the controversy legitimized or verified before the cited article was written. The Controversy section also incorrectly states that an anonymous woman accused Avidan of grooming. The source being refered to that accused him was not the anonymous woman but the individual that made the post which was someone else. The section says this itself in the next line. The first line is clearly contradicting the next in this section. It was the online posts made by seperate individuals who were not reliable sources which were accusing Avidan. The way this is worded and cited is using only one slightly more legitimate Newsweek article (which admited the information was wrong) as a buffer between sourcing almost directly word for word from posts on an online forum which are not a legitimate source. This very act is furthering the spread of misinformation which caused the false controversy and should not be acceptable on this website. 2603:8001:BD01:7DFE:9085:1734:4573:2B8D (talk) 22:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 May 2021
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Under the controversy section, it says that the woman in question herself accused Dan of grooming. She wasn't the one who made those accuaations though. The reddit poster (who was a different person) took her screenshots, and then the other person who linked the post on twitter was the one who made the jump to accuse of grooming. The woman herself claimed that she did not believe Dan groomed her. 208.104.163.30 (talk) 09:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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