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September 8

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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 8, 2021.

Genocide of Christians in North Korea

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 04:22, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Title that is unencyclopedic (there's a difference between "genocide" and "religious persecution") and unlikely to be a search term... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:55, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 22:31, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:PROPOSE

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was No consensus. After this long and multiple relistings it seems unlikely that another relisting will result in consensus. Thryduulf (talk) 12:55, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect has led to a hatnote at the top of VPR, which it'd be nice to get rid of. It's not clear that the Village pump is the primary target of someone who uses it, as proposed deletions are also quite common. I'd like to see it made into a disambiguation page instead. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 20:28, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Disambiguate: per Sdkb. Qwerfjkltalk 20:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that is you try to disambiguate this you're going to run into the issue that there are literally hundreds of processes on this site that involve people making some kind of proposal, everything from Wikipedia:Proposed deletion to Wikipedia:Proposed moves to Wikipedia:Proposed policies could sensibly fit on a dab page. Could you put together a list of what you think this should contain? 192.76.8.74 (talk) 20:46, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm. Is being nice to get rid of a hatnote really a good reason for disposing of a redirect? Surely usefulness is more important than tidiness, which is a virtue that I'd love to have, but in practice certainly do not, and have not suffered any great ill effects from not having. And proposing deletion is specifically proposing one particlar outcome, not the same as making a general proposal which this redirect is. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:38, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate because WP:VPR is already a more widely used (I think?) and shorter shortcut for the pump proposals page. An editor typing in "wp:propose" might be looking for any number of pages. That there are a lot of possible entries (the pump, prod, rfc, wp:proposal... which, btw, also has a hatnote saying wp:propose leads there) persuades me that a dab page would be the most useful target for this redirect. Levivich 05:12, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The notice at the top of the page already has a disambiguation:
  • Proposed policy changes belong at Village pump (policy).
  • Proposed speedy deletion criteria belong at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion.
  • Proposed WikiProjects or task forces may be submitted at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals.
  • Proposed new wikis belong at meta:Proposals for new projects.
  • Proposed new articles belong at Wikipedia:Requested articles. - Qwerfjkltalk 09:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 11:29, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 22:30, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate the possible targets found at CAT:PRO. These shortcuts are ambiguous, and as is commonly the case, various versions point haphazardly to different places. WP:PROPOSE, WP:PROPS, WP:PROPOSALS, and WP:PROPOSAL target several places. Target all to a dab page at WP:PROPOSE and update hatnotes at targets. Not ideal, but an improvement over the status quo. I agree retargeting to Policies and guidelines#Proposals would also be an improvement, but I think a dab page would be a superior solution at this point. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:10, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps sdkb or someone else so inclined could draft a dab page underneath the redirect? Mdewman6 (talk) 00:21, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There's already a very functional disambiguation here. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 20:12, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a dab page, it has a set of hatnotes that just lead searchers to AfD and PROD. There are many more types of proposals on Wikipedia. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:17, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:R from initials

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 04:22, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Template:R from short name. The majority of redirects tagged with this template are the names of people, which should use "short name" rather than "initialism". Indeed, the canonical example of using "short name" rather than "initialism", JS Bach, uses "initials", and hence is wrongly categorized. Some redirects using this template should go to "initialism", but this will involve less work than changing "initials" to "short name" on all affected pages. Tevildo (talk) 18:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:54, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This rcat template redirect is ambiguous in that it could apply to both short name and initialism redirects, as evidenced by those that are miscategorized. I think it would be better to have redirects not categorized than to have them miscategorized, and regardless of where this is targeted, misuse it likely to continue. Absent that, I agree with the nom that retargeting would result in less miscategorized redirects, so alternatively retarget per nom. Mdewman6 (talk) 17:34, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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List of U.S. state theaters

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 16#List of U.S. state theaters

Speeedfins

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Hog Farm Talk 05:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neither the target nor any other article mentions this; there is some page history, though it only relied on one primary source and does not seem to be used in any current page. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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HUMANCENTiPAD ddd

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:41, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the result of a page move test? Moved to this title and back a minute later. Does not look like "ddd" has any relation to the target. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Areee

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:41, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Initial page content does not meet any encyclopaedic standards. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:33, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Craaaw

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:42, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Neither this nor "craaw", of which this title could potentially have been a typo, have any helpful mentions on Wikipedia. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ejrusselllim123/Cult of the Cenote

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per G6. -- Tavix (talk) 16:01, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Ejrusselllim123" appears to be the username of the page creator; not a plausible search term. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:45, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Mystical Body of the Church/of Christ

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The result of the discussion was retarget all to Body of Christ. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 00:10, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When talking about Catholicism, the expression does not refer primarily to the encyclical of Pius XII. For example Britannica and CatholicCulture, use the expression not to refer to the encyclical, but to the concept. A similar expression, "Mystical Body of the Church", is used in the Catholic Encyclopedia to refer to the concept. The expression is also used by E. Orthodox, e.g. here, here, here, here. Moreover, some Lutherans also use the expression.
Therefore, I believe the redirects should either redirect to the general concept, Body of Christ, or to a DAB. Veverve (talk) 16:42, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think it's better to keep these per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Mystici corporis Christi is the title of a papal encyclical, one which strongly denounced Nazism at the height of the Second World War, and is viewed as one of the most important Catholic writings prior to the Second Vatican Council. The use of the phrase by faith leaders outside of Catholicism seems to me to be more of a modifier, describing the general Body of Christ theological concept common to Christian demoninations as "mystical", rather than the descriptor actually being part of the title. At any rate, Mystici already has a hatnote referring to the general concept. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 19:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    It has nothing to do with WP:SMALLDETAILS, since you want to keep all capitalisation and variants to redirect to the same page. The rest of your argument is rather strange. The concept of the mystical body of Christ/of the Church was not invented by Pius XII, and certainly the expression does not primarily refer to his encyclical, even in Catholicism, e.g. here and here, here.
    The other sources do use it as a title, it can clearly be seen. From a new source: "The holy Eucharist serves as the bond of unity in love. The holy Eucharist unites us to Christ and to one another. This is the makeup of the mystical body of Christ: the Church. This concept of the Church as the mystical body of Christ is very dear to our Orthodox tradition because it expresses the reality of Christ in the world and the unity of the Church, which is real only when Christ is the central figure." Also, in John Anthony McGuckin (ed.). The Encyclopedia of Eastern Orthodox Christianity it can be read: "In the Church and throught the sacraments our nature enters into union with the divine nature in the hypostasis of the Son, the Head of His mystical body." (Lossky 1991, quoted on p. 128); "the church is the body of Christ" (p. 455). Veverve (talk) 13:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    SMALLDETAILS was the wrong argument, I was meaning to say that the difference between "Body of Christ" and "Mystical Body of Christ" was a detail significant enough to treat separately. But I'll take your expertise over my Google-fu: these should all retarget to Body of Christ, and the "not to be confused with" hatnote there should be changed to one referring specifically to Pius XII's encyclical (because just giving the name is still confusing), i.e. ""Mystical body of Christ" redirects here. For the papal encyclical of Pius XII, see Mystici corporis Christi." Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 16:55, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The Wrightnows

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 04:21, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target, nor anywhere else on Wikipedia. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:28, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A video and another of The Wrightnow Family who used to come in the Netflix ads. There is some content here but not significant enough to get into the Netflix article. I could not find an Advertising or Marketing section at the target where I could add this. Netflix § Membership fee, Blockbuster acquisition offer, growth start talks about an advertising case, but in different context. Delete if there is no mention on Wikipedia. Jay (Talk) 19:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Roku Netflix

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 17#Roku Netflix

Trillion Netflixes

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:42, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at target, nor anywhere else on Wikipedia. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:09, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Frank Chavez

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Francisco Chavez. (non-admin closure) feminist (+) 15:31, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently also refers to Francisco Chavez. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Diet video

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The result of the discussion was delete. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 00:59, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target; closest thing to a mention is a citation title referring to the target phenomenon as "anti-diet videos". Internet search results appear to be exclusively videos describing diets, and not "what I eat in a day" videos. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 15:40, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's true that the words "diet video" are not directly used in the target, but my logic was that a "diet" is simply defined as the sum of food that someone consumes, and a video of what someone eats in a day is exactly that. Mover of molehills (talk) 21:14, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Dabhari Beach

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 02:42, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, while near Surat it's not clear that this is due for inclusion or useful in the absence of a mention. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 15:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Taisho democracy

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Taisho Democracy. Hog Farm Talk 05:48, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:RFD#DELETE#2, this redirect should be deleted, as the Taisho Democracy has its own article. Loafiewa (talk) 15:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A retarget works too. I'm not exactly familiar with RfD, but that seems like an adequate solution. Loafiewa (talk) 17:10, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Thom Yorke's live band

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 16#Thom Yorke's live band

Category:Baglan Shansharov

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 14:56, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:NOTFACEBOOK. Cross project redirect. Someone needs to check out the Wikidata page, too. Kleuske (talk) 09:12, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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10,783,118,943,836,478,994,022,445,751,223

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kept in 2013, but the relevant section in the target was removed as OR in 2014. Based on that RFD and Reddit, it looks this is a year where it is theorized by some that a Y2K type situation might occur, but as it seems unlikely that human life as we know it will exist when this year comes around, this isn't a plausible search term without a mention. Anyone searching this will already know the significance. Hog Farm Talk 05:19, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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SCDP

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 16#SCDP

11 Sepember 2001

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The result of the discussion was keep. WP:SNOW keep. (non-admin closure) feminist (+) 02:54, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unlikely misspelling. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 03:39, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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