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Today's featured article for November 5, 2024

Thomas Percy was a member of the failed Gunpowder Plot. Following King James's accession to the English throne in 1603, Percy became disenchanted with the new king, who he supposed had reneged on his promises of toleration for English Catholics. He joined Robert Catesby's conspiracy to kill the King and his ministers by blowing up the House of Lords with gunpowder. Percy helped fund the group and secured the leases to properties in London, including the undercroft beneath the House of Lords where the gunpowder was placed. When the plot was exposed on 5 November 1605, Percy fled to the Midlands, catching up with other conspirators travelling to Dunchurch. At the border of Staffordshire, they were besieged by the Sheriff of Worcester and his men. Percy was reportedly killed by the same musket ball as Catesby and was buried nearby. His body was later exhumed, and his head exhibited outside Parliament. (This article is part of a featured topic: Gunpowder Plot.)

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Picture of the day for November 5, 2024

The tentacled flathead (Papilloculiceps longiceps) is a species of marine fish belonging to the flathead family, Platycephalidae. It is found in the western Indian Ocean, including the Red Sea, and also in the Mediterranean Sea, probably as a result of migration through the Suez Canal. The tentacled flathead is a well camouflaged, ambush predator of fish and crustaceans, living near coral reefs on sand or rubble substrates at depths of up to 15 metres (49 feet). The species has an elongate body, with a maximum published length of 70 centimetres (28 inches), although 50 centimetres (20 inches) is more typical. It has a depressed head with five prominent nuchal spines, ridges on its operculum and preoperculum, a spine on the rear of the suborbital ridge, and smaller spines elsewhere. The body is mottled brownish or greenish dorsally, and whitish ventrally. There are three or four dark bands on the caudal fin, and the other fins are marked with large, dark blotches. This tentacled flathead was photographed in the Red Sea in Ras Muhammad National Park, off the southern coast of the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt.

Photograph credit: Diego Delso

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Bank Transfer Day

For 2011, Bank Transfer Day should be added.--Found5dollar (talk) 18:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Including fictional dates in "on this date"

"1955 – Time Travel: Doc Brown conceives the idea of the flux capacitor after hitting his head during a fall." Fictional event removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.121.184.196 (talk) 20:15, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hither Green rail crash

I've improved the article with refs and tidied up the entry here. It's a bit on the short side at ~700 words, please let me know what you think. Edgepedia (talk) 16:53, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That article looks good to go. Thanks. —howcheng {chat} 17:14, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes

Deleted: Glorious Revolution (moved to November 15—Gregorian date)
Omitted: Guy Fawkes/Gunpowder Plot (ineligible—Thomas Percy (Gunpowder Plot) is TFA for 2012); Federal Republic of Central America; Battle of Pakchon; Meir Kahane (ineligible—maintenance); Nidal Malik Hasan/Fort Hood shooting
Included: Ly Anh Tong (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Sidney Reilly (first appearance); Hither Green rail crash (first appearance); rescued from Ineligible); Byford Dolphin (first appearance); André Dallaire (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 05:35, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes

Omitted: Lý Anh Tông; Sidney Reilly; Hither Green rail crash; André Dallaire
Included: Federal Republic of Central America (9th appearance, last in 2011); Everett massacre (first appearance); Battle of Pakchon (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Gary Ridgway (first appearance; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: Byford Dolphin (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 30th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:50, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Meir Kahane
Omitted: Everett massacre; Battle of Pakchon; Byford Dolphin; Gary Ridgway
Included: Guy Fawkes/Gunpowder Plot (Fawkes: 7th appearance; Plot: 6th appearance; both last in 2011); Hither Green rail crash (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Morning Ireland (2nd appearance, last in 2010; 30th anniversary); Nidal Malik Hasan/Fort Hood shooting (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: Federal Republic of Central America (2nd consecutive appearance, 10 total)

—howcheng {chat} 11:58, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Sidney Reilly (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Mars Orbiter Mission
Omitted: Guy Fawkes/Gunpowder Plot; Federal Republic of Central America; Hither Green rail crash; Morning Ireland; Nidal Malik Hasan/2009 Fort Hood shooting
Included: Lý Anh Tông (3rd appearance, last in 2012); George B. McClellan (first appearance); Bombing of the Vatican (first appearance); Meir Kahane (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 25th anniversary); André Dallaire (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 11:33, 3 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest adding Susan B. Anthony's vote to Nov 5

Hi, I'd like to suggest the addition of Susan B. Anthony's vote to the list of eligible events for OTD November 5th. On this day in 1872, Anthony defied the law and voted in an election in New York; she was arrested and fined $100. Thanks! MurielMary (talk) 08:15, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Susan B. Anthony is already featured on November 18, the date of her arrest. (For future reference, for any article you are thinking about, look on its talk page to see if there's an OTD banner and that will tell you what day(s) it has appeared on.) —howcheng {chat} 16:42, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Guy Fawkes/Gunpowder Plot (Robert Catesby is TFA for 2016); Federal Republic of Central America (maintenance); Gary Ridgway (maintenance)
Omitted: George B. McClellan; Bombing of the Vatican; Meir Kahane; André Dallaire (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Negros Revolution (first appearance); Everett massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 100th anniversary); Byford Dolphin (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Nidal Malik Hasan/2009 Fort Hood shooting (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2014)
Repeats: Lý Anh Tông (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:50, 4 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Morning Ireland (maintenance); Meir Kahane (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Battle of Rossbach
Omitted: Guy Fawkes Night (ineligible—TFA for 2017); Negros Revolution (ineligible—maintenance); Everett massacre; Byford Dolphin; Nidal Hasan/2009 Fort Hood shooting
Included: Morea expedition (first appearance); Bombing of the Vatican (2nd appearance, last in 2015; 75th anniversary); Hither Green rail crash (3rd appearance, last in 2014; 50th anniversary); Open Handset Alliance (first appearance; 10th anniversary); Eugene V. Debs (first appearance); James Clerk Maxwell (first appearance); Vivien Leigh (first appearance)
Repeats: Lý Anh Tông (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:52, 3 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes

Omitted: Lý Anh Tông; Morea expedition; Bombing of the Vatican (oops, this should have been kept in for the 75th anniversary); Hither Green rail crash; Open Handset Alliance; Eugene V. Debs; James Clerk Maxwell; Vivien Leigh
Included: Guy Fawkes Night (rescued from Ineligible); Guy Fawkes/Gunpowder Plot (Fawkes: 8th appearance; Plot: 7th appearance; both last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Rossbach (2nd appearance, last in 2009); Sidney Reilly (2nd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Pakchon (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Mars Orbiter Mission (first appearance); Anna Maria van Schurman (first appearance); Hans Egede (first appearance); James Robert Baker (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:44, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes

Moved to Ineligible: Byford Dolphin (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): André Dallaire
Omitted: Guy Fawkes/Gunpowder Plot (Fawkes is TFA for 2019); Battle of Rossbach; Sidney Reilly (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Pakchon; Mars Orbiter Mission; Anna Maria van Schurman; Hans Egede; James Robert Baker
Included: Lý Anh Tông (6th appearance, last in 2017); Morea expedition (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Bombing of the Vatican (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Hither Green rail crash (4th appearance, last in 2017); Nidal Hasan/2009 Fort Hood shooting (both: 4th appearance, last in 2016; 10th anniversary); Mariotto Albertinelli (2nd appearance, last in 2018; also appeared on October 13, his birthday); Ida Tarbell (first appearance); Luis Cernuda (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 19:50, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes

Moved to Ineligible: George B. McClellan (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Guy Fawkes/Gunpowder Plot
New articles (ineligible): Isaiah Berlin (maintenance)
Omitted: Lý Anh Tông; Morea expedition (ineligible—maintenance); Bombing of the Vatican; Hither Green rail crash (ineligible—maintenance); Nidal Hasan/2009 Fort Hood shooting; Mariotto Albertinelli; Ida Tarbell (ineligible—POTD for 2020); Luis Cernuda
Included: Second Battle of Panipat (first appearance); Battle of Rossbach (2nd appearance; last in 2018); Sidney Reilly (3rd appearance; last in 2018; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Pakchon (4th appearance; 70th anniversary); André Dallaire (3rd appearance; last in 2015; 25th anniversary); Edwin Flack (first appearance); Vivien Leigh (2nd appearance; last in 2017); Mary W. Bacheler (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 03:13, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Ida Tarbell
Omitted: Second Battle of Panipat; Battle of Rossbach; Sidney Reilly; Battle of Pakchon; André Dallaire; Edwin Flack; Vivien Leigh; Mary W. Bacheler
Included: Lý Anh Tông (7th appearance, last in 2019); Guy Fawkes/Gunpowder Plot (Fawkes: 9th appearance; Plot: 8th; both last in 2018); Everett massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Bombing of the Vatican (4th appearance, last in 2019); Meir Kahane (3rd appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Louis Bertrand Castel (first appearance); Otto Wahle (first appearance); Habibollah Asgaroladi (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:18, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]