Talk:Dulquer Salmaan
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Dulquar / Dulquer
Have seen his name spelt in both ways. It was spelt as "Dulquer" in the credits of his debut movie Second Show, I reckon. --Jairodz (talk) 06:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Dulquer Salmaan Inzamam K Sudheer (talk) 10:04, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
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Protection
Note that I've just fully protected the article in response to the edit warring today. Please seek consensus for controversial changes here on the talk page, and keep our WP:NPOV guideline in mind. Also, you may want to consider WP:DR. Mark Arsten (talk) 15:43, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
No consensus shown that table formating the filmography is helpful to reader
Per the Wikipedia wide consensus, tables should only be used when doing so is necessary to display information in a comprehensible manner for a reader and that simple lists are the preferred method. There is no consensus shown that tablizing the simple information in this article is necessary to help the reader understand the info. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 16:57, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Request rm script
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Can an admin remove indic script (per this discussion from the infobox? Thanks. Torreslfchero (talk) 09:43, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
- There is no script in the lead, and that discussion is unclear on infoboxes. Please clarify. Materialscientist (talk) 09:49, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Formatting Tables
Formatting tables does not follow the WP:FILMOGRAPHY guideline for how these tables are to be formatted. HRM (talk) 04:05, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- per your link "Some filmographies are presented in a tabled format; however, you should make sure there is an obvious benefit to table format before creating a table for a filmography." and per the manual of style on tables "(Tables) can be useful for a variety of content presentations on Wikipedia, though should be used only when appropriate; sometimes the information in a table may be better presented as prose paragraphs or as an embedded list. When the table formatting is so complicated that you cannot even restore an unbroken version, and the list version contains all the relevant information in a very readable (and editable) style that does not present an eyemagnet that draws away from the actual content of the article, (particularly when easy edits cannot be made without knowing the complex formatting and breaking the table) there is no obvious reason to include the table.
- what exactly is the obvious benefit for creating a table in this article that i have missed?-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 15:36, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
According to WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers is a WikiProject dedicated to building comprehensive and detailed articles for actors and other filmmakers. Working to provide a greater focus on people in the film industry. To maintain standards for articles about people in world cinema, as well as for categories, templates, and other Wikipedia items that may support those articles. so tables are needed here for easy and better way to understand. HRM (talk) 04:04, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- what part of "Some filmographies are presented in a tabled format; however, you should make sure there is an obvious benefit to table format before creating a table for a filmography." do you not understand? there needs to be an obvious benefit.
- the table is not needed to be easy to understand, a simple list does the same thing. the only thing the table does, other than make it hard to edit, is to create an eyemagnet that draws excessive attention to the table where there is very little actual information and away from the body of the text where there is a lot of information. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:13, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
According to WP:FILMOGRAPHY the information will be more clearly conveyed by virtue of having rows and columns. It will be an obvious benefit to this article. HRM (talk) 04:20, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Creating a reason? information on every article must be clearly conveyed. So here for clearly conveying tables can be used.HRM (talk) 04:30, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- and a simple list clearly conveys the appropriate information. only when you start to include a gajillion bits of inappropriate trivia do you need the columns and rows TO SORT OUT THE CRAP from the important bits. including unnecessary trivia to support the "benefit" of a table format is ludicrous. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 04:48, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Other Names
He is widely called as 'Kunjikka' by the mamooty fans Ashiqtk09 (talk) 03:24, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
GA Review
Jaguar, Kailash29792, Pavanjandhyala, Ssven2, Charles Turing: Would any of you like to review the article for GA? JosephJames 07:14, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
- I believe I am not qualified for that. Reviewer should be an outsider, I have edited the article no. of times. Good luck for the GA.--Charles Turing (talk) 11:48, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Ssven2 (talk · contribs) 09:30, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Will review this article. Thank you. Been a while since I've done a review. I might get out of practice if I don't review an article once in a while. :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 09:30, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Lead
- The lead seems short. Maybe a few more sentences/an extra paragraph (like his foray into Tamil cinema and how popular he is).
- Ssven2: How is it now?
- @Josephjames.me: "Cited in the media as one of the most attractive Indian celebrities" — a few more (3 at least) references need to be cited there. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:41, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2:: How about now?
- @Josephjames.me: Placed the references into one myself. Looks ok now. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 00:56, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2:: How about now?
- @Josephjames.me: "Cited in the media as one of the most attractive Indian celebrities" — a few more (3 at least) references need to be cited there. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 14:41, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Early life
- "After graduation, he worked in the U.S. and later moved to Dubai, to work in an I.T. related business" — What caused him to move to Dubai? What sort of I.T. related business was he in? Any references on it?
- Changed to "After graduation, he worked in the U.S. and later did an I.T. related business in Dubai." No reference on the details of the business.
- Should be fine. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 13:17, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Link Mumbai.
- Done.
- "he chose acting because " ... somewhere down the lane my life became monotonous and routine", though he had never planned to be a film actor" — Kind of paradoxical. If he never planned to be a film actor, what was he interested in?
- He was initially a businessman (still is); maybe that was what he was interested in. Anyway, removed "though he had never planned to be a film actor". Will that be okay?
- Looks alright. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 13:17, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Film career
- Sub-headings would do for this portion like:
Debut, breakthrough and stardom (2012-2013)
Foray into Tamil cinema and recent work (2014-Present)
- Done
- "was also a major economic success" — "was also a major success at the box office."
- Done
- "He also won praise for his portrayal of Faizy." — A cluster of references pertaining to this information would be good.
- Could get only two references. Is that okay?
- Good enough. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 06:47, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Personal life and off-screen work
- "He has also been involved in several social service activities." — such as (just name of activities as an introduction would do)? references?
- I've got only this: "He has acted in a short film as part of the Kerala motor vehicle department's safe riding campaign. He donated 150 items, including clothing, shoes, books, school supplies and crockery items, as a part of the Chennai Gives initiative." What should I do?
- @Josephjames.me: That's good enough. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 06:46, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- "In addition, he is the owner of several businesses," — The IBTimes source just says "also heads a dental business chain in Chennai, apart from being the director of Bangalore-based Motherhood Hospital." Again, references for the sentence would be good.
- I got a reference that states that a web portal for car trading was his first business venture. [1] Again, what should I do?
- @Josephjames.me: Hmmm, scrap off "he is the owner of several businesses" and simply say "In addition, he is the owner of a web portal for trading cars and a dental business chain in Chennai. He also acts as the director of the Bangalore-based Motherhood Hospital." Add the TOI reference too. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 06:46, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
References
- @Josephjames.me: Some of the references don't have the author's names. Fill them up. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 06:55, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Done.
@Josephjames.me: On the whole, thank you for taking the initiative of improving Dulquer Salmaan's article. I've seen him in Ustad Hotel, Vaayai Moodi Pesavum, Bangalore Days and OK Kanmani. He's quite brilliant in all the four (More a fan of his father really. Sorry DQ). If there is any other must-watch film of his, do tell. :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 01:11, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Thank you for being so nice to me throughout this review. Dulquer has been quite selective in his career and has done some really great movies. I'd suggest Neelakasham Pachakadal Chuvanna Bhoomi (NPCB; said to be Malayalam cinema's first road movie), Charlie (his best performance if you ask me) and Kammatipaadam (with great acts by 'Ganga' (Vinayakan) and 'Balan chettan' (Manikandan R Achari; a brilliant stage actor)). Happy viewing ;-) JosephJames 06:42, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Tired of thanking you! No more thanks from now on :P Okay, maybe some more :D JosephJames 07:07, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it reasonably well written?
- A. Prose quality:
- B. MoS compliance:
- Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
- A. References to sources:
- B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
- C. No original research:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. Major aspects:
- B. Focused:
- Is it neutral?
- Fair representation without bias:
- Is it stable?
- No edit wars, etc:
- Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
- A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
- B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- @Josephjames.me: Congratulations! The article has passed its GAR. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 08:00, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Thank you so much! I can finally get this article out of my watch list ;-) One doubt though... What to do with the sentence "He owns several entrepreneurship ventures and promotes various social causes" in the lead? JosephJames 08:10, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Josephjames.me: Isn't that explained under "Personal Life and Off-screen work"? :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 08:12, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Hadn't we scrapped off "he is the owner of several businesses" part? JosephJames 08:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Josephjames.me: I have modified the sentence now. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 08:20, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Okay! Do watch the films :-D JosephJames 08:22, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Josephjames.me: I will soon enough. :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 08:23, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Okay! Do watch the films :-D JosephJames 08:22, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Josephjames.me: I have modified the sentence now. — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 08:20, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Hadn't we scrapped off "he is the owner of several businesses" part? JosephJames 08:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Josephjames.me: Isn't that explained under "Personal Life and Off-screen work"? :-) — Ssven2 Speak 2 me 08:12, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
- @Ssven2: Thank you so much! I can finally get this article out of my watch list ;-) One doubt though... What to do with the sentence "He owns several entrepreneurship ventures and promotes various social causes" in the lead? JosephJames 08:10, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Merger proposal
I propose that Dulquer Salmaan filmography be merged into Dulquer Salmaan. The content in the former can easily be explained in the context of latter, and the Dulquer Salmaan article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Dulquer Salmaan filmography will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. The actor has 25 film credits in his list (including 2 as narrator (one is trailer), a playback singing, and a guest appearance). No need to rush, this is too early to create such a list and is unnecessary at present. 117.209.247.227 (talk) 11:18, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- Merge The parent article's size is enough reason for the merger. Yashthepunisher (talk) 18:23, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
- Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 07:58, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Movie reference Link update proposal
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- Film Career
- 2014 - present
- paragraph no. 6
I found that the name of the movie "Mahanati" has lost its supportive reference link to [2] during last edit, done recently. Please check for the needful. Thanks --Sonali ss01 (talk) 08:18, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
- Done Removed the [], generally a link should appear only once in the article. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 14:41, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
1986
He was born in 1986, not 1983. Lest I be accused of ignoring the 3 revert rule, here's why 1983 is vandalism:
- Reference 1 says his 30th birthday was in 2016. 2016 minus 30 is 1986. Not 1983.
- Similarly, Reference 4 says his 29th birthday was in 2015. 1986, not 1983.
- The only reference the other person has provided is this one. I can't Google Translate it, but the English phrases "34th B'day" and "Copyright 2020" indicate 1986, not 1983.
- No other explanation for 1983 has been provided.
- Don't be fooled by multiple editors posting 1983. For the most part, they haven't edited anything else except this article. Same person, multiple accounts.
- And if there were some unexpressed reason to believe the birthday is 1983, then why did he once claim it was 1981, and once claim 1984?
- So it's vandalism, not a difference of opinion, and the 3 revert rule doesn't apply. Art LaPella (talk) 00:54, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
DOB
1. There's a movie called Mutharamkunnu P.O where there's a dialogue said by actress Lissy. The dialogue says actor Mammootty has 2 children's. The movie released on 1985 month of June.
2. Hibi Eden MLA he's popular politician at Ernakulam district is classmate of Dulquer salmaan and his DOB 1983.
3. There's a Vanitha Magazine edition of 1987 which clearly mentioned in that DQ age was four at that time. And it is well clear in the cover photo of that edition.
4. Dulquer himself says that the Wikipedia DOB is wrong while he was interviewed with clubFM radio. 103.166.244.161 (talk) 07:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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