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Runners-up finishes being removed from Snooker players profiles

Hi Betty how are you ?. I have noticed recently a few individuals have decided to start removing the number of Runners-up finishes from the players career finals section ie ranking events, non-ranking events and minor ranking events. For example they are now listed like this. The headline reads like this. Ranking finals: 37 (19 titles), non-raning finals: 44 (27 titles) , Minor-Ranking finals 7 (3 titles). This still list all the finals including runners-up but do not include the figure at the top. It makes no sense .When I view a page I want to know exactly how many finals a player has won and how many they have been a Runner-up in. I should not have to start counting in my head how many they have lost. The old way was better. Please give me your thoughts please ?. They would be greatly appreciated here. Thanks 178.167.143.26 (talk) 23:19, 25 August 2021 (UTC) .[reply]

Nobody really cares about runner-up positions...unless they are a Jimmy White fan. Betty Logan (talk) 11:59, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

how do you know nobody cares ?.I care for one so that is your theory blown 178.167.192.240 (talk) 18:47, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are you a Jimmy White fan? If you are my theory is not blown. Betty Logan (talk) 18:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi betty can you help me out please

Hi Betty I am looking for some information can you help me out please ?. i want to use a source that someone has linked to a page, but the headline needs to be changed is that possible to do or is the reference title locked once it is created please ?. Regards 178.167.192.240 (talk) 17:52, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the question. It should be possible to change anything on Wikipedia unless the page is protected. Betty Logan (talk) 18:50, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry i will try to explain better somebody saved an old article from DragonStars.de snooker site to the wayback machine but their is an error in the url (in the name title) and i wanted to change it, of course the original it was taken from is now defunct. Hope you understand me now ?. Regards 178.167.192.240 (talk) 19:03, 8 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hi did that make it any easier ?. 178.167.192.240 (talk) 19:19, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi betty did you understand my question ?. i have noticed an error in the url is there anyway to fix that please ?. 178.167.192.240 (talk) 20:12, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If there is an error in the Wayback screen capture then there must have been an error in the original page, because Wayback just copies the page as it was at the time. If you can still access the Wayback page why does it matter if there is an error? Anyway, you can't alter anything in a Wayback page. If you are the owner of the site you can request that the page is deleted and that is all you can do. Betty Logan (talk) 20:35, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

it matters because the tournament was an invitational non-ranking and they have exhibition in the url on wayback, because there was an exhibition speed cup event also staged during the tournament, like the one in the Paul Hunter Classic in 2019 a few years back. SO i wouldn't want some people to remove it as a source thinking it was an exhibition event. it was german i think there may have been a mix up in the translation. do you get me ?. Regards 178.167.192.240 (talk) 21:43, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I get you but you can't edit things in Wayback, that would defeat the object of an archive site. All I can suggest is that if you want to use it as a source you should add a note explaining th error. Betty Logan (talk) 00:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That is a great bit of advice actually betty i would never have thought of that to be honest. How would you go about adding the note please ?. How would you phrase it and where would i place it ?. Kind Regards 80.233.85.251 (talk) 23:31, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really know what the error is so you would have to determine that yourself. But what I would do is point out what it does say, and what it actually should say so there is no ambiguity. If you are using a reference template I would format it like this: <ref>{{cite web ... }} NOTE: The source includes an error. The source states ... and what it should say is ... </ref>. Something along those lines. Betty Logan (talk) 23:43, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is on a draft page here if I showed it to you, would you be able to help me out please ?. Kind Regards 77.75.244.22 (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can take a look at it but I need the link. Betty Logan (talk) 08:40, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Paddington Posters

I see you've reverted my edits for the higher quality paddington movie posters. At least just let them breath because they look much better and are higher quality which that last is everything wikipedia stands for right? I've reverted them back and please don't do anything. You told me to leave a message on your wall if something wasn't right. Well, this is the reason.

Bravetubby (talk) 10:34, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

I saw the message you sent me on my talk page. How about I keep those posters on wikipedia (because I think they're much better), But I can lower the mb size because it's a non-free file. How about that?

Bravetubby (talk) 15:44, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've explained the rules to you so you have no excuses now. The next copyright violation is likely to result in some kind of sanction. Betty Logan (talk) 18:51, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Literary Bond

Hi Betty, I hope you're keeping well. I just dropped back into WP to check on something, and saw the James Bond (literary character) article has become a bit of a mess in the last few years. I tried to tidy it up a bit, which included removing unsourced information, changing US punctuation to UK and trimming out some really nonsensical rubbish (the IB has "significant others" as "Bond girls", for crying out loud! If they don't have a name, how can they be "significant" for goodness sake), as well as taking out quite a lot of OR and fancruft and a floating, largely pointless quote box that is out of place and context. I've been reverted (twice now) by Lobo151 with a rather dubious rationale that doesn't deal with any of the problems I've outlined, and re-introduces all the same problems as were there before. I really don't care enough about the niceties to get involved in protracted talk page discussions about having to maintain adequate standards for GAs, but perhaps you could cast an eye over the changes and provide any thoughts you may have. Cheers SchroCat (editing from 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:381A:9440:A51D:1FA8 (talk) 18:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC))[reply]

ps. This was what happened to the messages left on Lobo's page about the reason I undertook both the original edit and the reversion. I'm not convinced my rationale was received, but heigh-ho! SC, from 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:381A:9440:A51D:1FA8 (talk) 18:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Schro, great to see you around! You have been missed. I've just taken a look at the edit and I think maybe (and perhaps understandably) Lobo slightly jumped the gun and reverted in good faith. The James Bond articles as you know get targeted a lot and even though I am not all that familiar with Lobo as an editor he does seem to be a force for good on them. I think what has happened here is that he's seen an IP remove a chunk of content and had a bit of a knee-jerk reaction. If you look at the diff it is difficult to discern exactly what you've done. Obviously I don't doubt the integrity of these edits, I know the article is in safe hands, but Lobo may not be familiar with you as an editor. I notice you have restored your edits and Lobo has not reverted you this time so maybe he has taken a closer look at them? If he reverts again, let me know and we can sort it out on the talk page. It might helpful to let him know you are the editor who brought the article to GA status in the first place. Betty Logan (talk) 11:30, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Betty, I'm only passing through, rather than returning. Every time I've edited as an IP I see a harder and harder line against any IP editors, and the idea of 'the encyclopaedia anyone can edit' seems to be dying by inches, which is a shame. I struggle to recognise the place nowadays, but life is much less stressful as a result! I'm on the talk page there now, as a few CN tags were removed without anything being done to sort the problem, but hopefully we'll be able to sort that one out quickly. Cheers - 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:7007:3D98:FCBB:6145 (talk) 15:45, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is not true and you know it. I removed the CN and replace it with a source. Lobo151 (talk) 15:54, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What is not true? The fact you added an unreliable source to replace one of the tags, but didn't do anything to cover the other two that also need looking at? Please don't add links to fansites or bloggers pages - they are not WP:RELIABLE. - 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:7007:3D98:FCBB:6145 (talk) 16:09, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What is not true is the part "removed without anything being done to sort the problem" You can't denie the fact I tried to added reference Lobo151 (talk) 16:13, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As I have clearly said both here and on the article talk page, your removed THREE tags (two CN and one 'failed verification'). In place of one of the tags, you added the bare URL of an UNRELIABLE source. You did nothing to deal with the other two tags you removed. It's what you did in this edit; I don't see what is untrue about that. 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:7007:3D98:FCBB:6145 (talk) 16:23, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The fact is that I still was busy adding them, but you already start to revert the edit before I could added them. The fact they are UNRELIABLE is a different point. Going to a different user talkspage and telling not the whole story .Lobo151 (talk) 16:28, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't trying to tell any story. The thread on the article talk page is where this should be being discussed, which is why I gave very few details here, besides chatting with an old friend who was one of the people I worked with to get several of the Bond articles up to GA standard.
Yes, I reverted your addition of an UNRELIABLE link: it should never have been added. An unreliable link is as bad as no source at all. It has to be a reliable source that covers all the information it is supposed to be supporting - this is the basis of WP. Please do not try to add fansite or blog links again (to any page, not just this one), but use published material from books, if possible. - The editor formally known as SchroCat, editing from 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:7007:3D98:FCBB:6145 (talk) 16:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

MarydaleEd - a quibble

I suspect that MarydaleEd is Ed from Marydale and "she" might not be appropriate. If it matters. NebY (talk) 12:29, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah thank you. I suspect you are probably correct. Personally though, I think it only matters if an editor makes it clear it matters on their user page. I am always happy to respect a fellow editor's pronouns if they make them known to me. Betty Logan (talk) 14:53, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Quite so - and I could be guessing wrong or it might even amuse them! FWIW, at first glance their recent talk page edits look to me pretty consistent with some of their oldest ones. I could be wrong there too .... NebY (talk) 17:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Stalking"

Normally I'd post this comment on User talk:MarydaleEd, below your own, but in this case it may be better not to pile on. I just wanted to say that I'd seen their accusations of "tailing" and thought them (the accusations) weird, and very worrying from a WP:CIR point of view. Anyway, all the best, Betty. Bishonen | tålk 12:37, 27 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]

To my recollection I have never interacted with MarydaleEd before this incident so I just regarded their answer as deflection from the real issue. In truth I am slightly puzzled by the whole incident. Editors of 10 years in good standing don't suddenly go rogue do they? Just doesn't seem to add up. Take care Bishonen. Betty Logan (talk) 15:05, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of natural horror films

Thanks for your work on this list! DonIago (talk) 00:06, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome Doniago. I hope you weren't too perturbed by the fact I had reverted you, but it was the easiest way to work back through the problematic edits. They were clearly done in good faith and the editor added a few good new entries, so I don't really mind cleaning up when there is a net gain at the end of the process. Betty Logan (talk) 00:51, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nah it's fine. One of my (probably not uncommon at least) failings is that I do tend to initially get my dander up a bit when I see I've been reverted, but when I saw it was you I figured there was probably a good reason for it, and while I didn't reivew the changes you made especially carefully, I'm willing to assume you made improvements. :) DonIago (talk) 01:24, 3 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of recurring characters in the James Bond film series

Hi Betty, I hope you're keeping well. I was trying to remove the 1954 Casino Royale from the table at List of recurring characters in the James Bond film series, but am struggling with some of the rowspan/colspan settings, and whenever I've tried to remove it, it breaks the formatting of the rest of the table (it moves people out of the right cells into the wrong roles). Can you have a look and see what you can do? Cheers - SC 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:A8DB:6284:D2D7:F53D (talk) 14:13, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh! Christ that table is a mess. I will never understand the Wikipedia obsession with using rowspans to make a table ugly and virtually impossible to edit. I will take a look at it and see what I can do. Betty Logan (talk) 03:49, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You’re a star! Thanks for that. I hate rowspans - I’m an experienced editor and one-time Featured List co-ord with 50-odd FLs to my name, and I still can’t work them out, so what hope does a passing newbie have to correct something?! Thanks so much for that. Cheers SC. 2A00:23C7:2B86:9800:E463:1219:59DF:7A50 (talk) 05:41, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have undone the edit. I assume SC asked you to do that edit for the same reason they asked me to undo the name change of Casino Royale (1954 film): User_talk:SilkTork#Page_move, under the belief that the 1954 Casino Royale is not a film. However, it is a film, as pointed out in the article it was recorded on Kinescope, and has been released as such by MGM, who bought the rights. The film is regarded as part of the James Bond canon, as indicated on fansites, such as jamesbond.fandom.com, and universalexports.net, etc. I understand the thinking that the original episode was live tv drama, but as a film of that drama turned up in 1981, and has been available publicly on DVD since 2003, it is now regarded as a film, and so needs to be included in List of recurring characters in the James Bond film series. SilkTork (talk) 09:58, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

‎It is a tv episode, not a film. The change of the article name( witout a discussion) doesn't change that. Also the given reasons are not making it a film.Lobo151 (talk) 10:42, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Betty Logan removed things from Natural Horror page that actually should be there

Betty Logan removed the itens "King Kong" and "Jurassic Park" from Natural Horror page, but these Itens should be there, because they are Natural Horror Movies that should be included Gabriel Rodrigues Loschiavo (talk) 16:30, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker)Can you please provide a WP:DIFF? Were the films possibly removed because no sources had been provided, or because the sources did not claim that these films are Natural Horror films? Betty is a pretty competent editor, so unless this was done by accident (which is entirely possible), they probably had good reasons for their edits. DonIago (talk) 17:36, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Gabriel Rodrigues Loschiavo: If you want to discuss article content then please start a discussion on the article talk page, and as DonIago says, please provide a diff if you are going to challenge a particular edit. I would only ever remove entries for two reasons i) it is unsourced ;ii) the source does not qualify as a WP:Reliable source (in this case I would try to replace it first). Betty Logan (talk) 20:20, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BOXOFFICE

Hi, (sorry for my english) can you help me with the update of this page? I have just updated The Lion King (1994) issues and Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone issues, but I'm not very practical with en.wiki tables, can you help me to add new issues I found? I found these two (UK and Australia) for The Lion King (2019), this (UK) for Beauty and the Beast (2017) and this for Star Wars - The Rise of Skywalker--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 12:20, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at it in the next day or so. Betty Logan (talk) 19:00, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Luke Stark 96: Some good catches there, keep up the good work.  Done Betty Logan (talk) 19:44, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help, I hope the will fix the issues in the future--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 20:58, 24 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, in the last day BOM increase F9 box office from 721.1 million to 739.6 million, it is another issue? For example this seems wrong, what do you think?--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 10:39, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's probably correct. I suspect F9 has now closed internationally and the distributor has issued a finalised list of grosses. This is fairly common. If you compare the current list of international grosses to the one from a month ago you will see there are several differences at country level. China, for example, has jumped $13 million and there are countries on the list that weren't there before, such as Thailand. Betty Logan (talk) 12:46, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So the Ireland gross is correct? Because there is no info about it, just the number (15 million)--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 12:59, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is no way of knowing, but Ireland hasn't caused the fluctuation: BOM had it down as 15 mil last month, when the worldwide total was $721 million. The fluctuation has come from countries like China and countries that weren't include before. Betty Logan (talk) 13:18, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks for the explanations--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 13:24, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And..... they changed again, the box office decrease from 739.6 million to 726.2 million, and the Ireland Gross disappeared, but the China gross is the same (216 million)....--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 23:31, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mad Max Filming at Tin City

Seeing that you seem to be undoing any edits about this, I'm letting you know about https://www.newcastleherald.com.au/story/2115744/topics-mystery-of-mad-max/ which clearly states that it isn't true.

Sometime in the next week I will edit it, and the other entry (Stockton Beach or Tin City) where it is also claimed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenstat (talk • contribs) 02:54, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a clue what you are talking about. Please provide a link to the edit I have apparently reverted please. Betty Logan (talk) 04:21, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mad_Max_(film)&diff=864133809&oldid=864133551

I am slightly confused as to why you are even raising this issue on my talk page. Let's review the course of events:
  1. I reverted one edit three years ago. That is hardly "seem to be undoing edits about this". No, I reverted one edit about this. Three years ago.
  2. I did not revert the edit on the grounds of factual accuracy, I reverted the edit on the grounds that an editor removed sourced content without providing any evidence to the effect that the claim was not factually accurate. This is crystal clear from my edit summary. This is in accordance with Wikipedia policies WP:Verifiability and WP:Original research.
  3. You now have a source for the correction. As you have clearly trawled through three years of page history it will also be apparent to you that this source was not brought to my attention at the time.
Why would I recall a single edit from three years ago? If you have a source that corrects the claim then just correct the information with the new source. Betty Logan (talk) 07:59, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of highest-grossing films

Hi, can you check this edits? Are they correct? Thanks--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 19:24, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How are able to say that the movies are still running internationally?

In one of the movies, for example, the international box office has not increased since three weeks. Surge_Elec (talk) 09:12, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Near the end of a run Box Office Mojo doesn't always update the box-office total on a weekly basis, but usually the international charts are still updated. For example, F9 was still playing last weekend in New Zealand and a couple of other countries: [1]. It might well have close this weekend, but it won't be obvious until later this week when this weekend's charts are updated. Removing the highlighting as soon as a film finishes its run is not an urgent requirement; on the other hand if it is removed too early editors may miss later updates to the gross. Betty Logan (talk) 09:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The box office counts of F9, Black Widow, and The Suicide Squad have not changed. So, can it be removed now? Surge_Elec (talk) 16:31, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All three films are still playing in Australia so it is best to leave the highlighting in place for now. There is no hurry to remove the highlighting; if editors are aware they are still playing then they can periodically check for updates. Betty Logan (talk) 18:08, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please give a source / link that says they're running in Australia? (I would like to use it.)
If you go to Box Office Mojo and click on the "Australia" tab for each of those films you will see that Box Office reports were filed for 4–7 November, so we know they were still playing last week. BOM is not reporting weekend estimates any more for these three films so you have to wait a few days for the actuals (they will get added later this week if these films were still in play this weekend). It is not necessary to add sources that they are still in play; the highlighting is really there only to let readers know that the numbers are subject to change, and they are technically sourced anyway through the existing references to BOM. Betty Logan (talk) 18:54, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Surge_Elec (talk) 18:57, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome :) Betty Logan (talk) 19:22, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Betty can you help me out please ?.

I wanted to view a link from a source. It says the usual archived from the original and the dates are given for the original as 31 Aug 2009, it says it was retrieved on the 23 March 2021. But when I click on the source link it goes to a page and says "This plug-in is not supported". Can you explain to me what this means please ?. Can other people view it or is my device not up to date ?. Any reply would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards 31.200.187.229 (talk) 12:53, 20 November 2021 (UTC).[reply]

I can take a look at it but I need to know the article and link. Betty Logan (talk) 14:43, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ok but what I want to know is the link alive and is it just my phone that is wrong ?. Can you explain why it would say "This plug-in is not supported". Can you tell me what that means please in lay man's terms. I am not great at this stuff ok ?. Thanks 31.200.187.229 (talk) 15:22, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How do I add the link to your page ?. 31.200.187.229 (talk) 15:34, 20 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just tell me what the article is and what the citation number is. Betty Logan (talk) 01:27, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Missing White Woman Syndrome

Hi, I’d like to ask why my edit of Gone Girl under the “In popular culture” section was removed. Thank you. 115.66.42.100 (talk) 01:55, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As I explained in the edit summary, it was original research. If you want to include it then find a source that discusses the film in the context of "missing white woman syndrome". Betty Logan (talk) 02:19, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - Budget

You are making mistake with Pirates of the Caribbean 5 budget. Disney confirmed that Pirates of the Caribbean 5 - Dead Men Tell No Tales budget was only $230 million and not $320 million. The news of $320 million budget was reported by the Daily Mail that Wikipedia banned as reliable source. When Daily Mail reports that budget news the others newspapers reported that budget but Disney confirmed that the movie costed only $230 million. 79.35.220.18 (talk) 05:51, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep discussions of specific article content at the relevant article talk page. Betty Logan (talk) 06:39, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The IP is this user on block evasion--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 15:41, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Rachel Green's Marriage to Ross Geller

In spin-off series Joey, Joey tells his sister Gina that all of his friends are married, meaning Rachel married Ross in the end after all. Shooting Spirit 007 (talk) 07:37, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Or it could mean that for some reason Joey no longer considers them friends. Unlikely, but not impossible. I haven't seen the show and I'm not sure what the context of this thread is. DonIago (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have fleshed out the context of the dispute at Talk:Rachel_Green#Rachel_and_Ross_remarried?. Betty Logan (talk) 17:43, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've commented there. DonIago (talk) 17:53, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ANI discussion regarding removal of cites referencing Daily Mail and other "deprecated" sources

In joining the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:David Gerard violating Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources#Acceptable_uses_of_deprecated_sources, I intended an inclusion of the link to February's Talk:Don't Look Now#Daily Mail, but decided against linking it without your permission and that of the other two participants, David J Johnson and Erik. Having also considered linkage to last year's Talk:RoboCop (2014 film)#WP:DAILYMAIL, in which you and Erik likewise participated, I ultimately settled for this comment, but that thread was closed 13 minutes after I posted the comment. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:05, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Roman Spinner: I have no objections to you citing either of those discussions, or quoting my comments directly. I always thought the removal of content at the Don't Look Now article was a gross misapplication WP:DAILYMAIL. Clearly the Daily Mail has been problematic in recent years when it comes to factual reporting, but I always felt the good intentions behind curbing its inaccuracies were misappropriated to purge it completely from Wikipedia. Betty Logan (talk) 23:57, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your kind reply. My outlook on this matter is the same as yours. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:19, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Betty's comments above. David J Johnson (talk) 12:35, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Betty I hope you can help me with adding a source for Wikipedia

I have a source I want to add to Wikipedia and I have it saved as a PDF file and I have it saved to my Google drive as the original link is now gone so I was lucky to save it. The problem is if I add it as either a PDF file or from my Google drive to use as a source on Wikipedia it says my Gmail account has to be open for people to view the link. I don't want to have my personal email on Wikipedia. Plus as soon as I log out if I try and view the source it says log into your Gmail account showing my name again to everyone. How can I add this link to Wikipedia ?. There must be a way to do it is there ?. I hope you can help out ?. Regards 80.233.31.168 (talk) 12:54, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to upload a PDF. Just cite the URL for where you downloaded it from. If it's a scan of a print source then just cite it as an offline source (remember to include the title, name of the author, the publisher and the date). Betty Logan (talk) 16:35, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The website is closed down. I'm not sure I remember the URL. I had it saved on my tablet and sent it to myself via email to keep it. As the original site is closed I only have an email copy which I downloaded. By doing it your way nobody would see the page is that correct ?. It would just give a source with a name and dates. I want to show the article. How else can I add it please ?. Regards 80.233.31.168 (talk) 16:56, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What good is an old URL if it has been shut down how can anyone verify the source ?.Thanks 80.233.31.168 (talk) 17:03, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You would be better off asking at WT:CITE. I have never come across this situation before. Betty Logan (talk) 17:52, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But the old URL is no good if it is closed down right ?. 80.233.31.168 (talk) 17:54, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Hi Betty, just wanted to drop a barnstar for you - I probably don't comment enough to the guys I know do a lot of great work, but I do appreciate all of your work. I hope everythig is ok with you in this new year. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:52, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Betty

Hi Betty how are you doing today ?.will you reply when you see this please ?. I have a question for you. Kind Regards 77.75.244.10 (talk) 18:51, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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