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Section on Daily Kos political activity (modified)

The section on political activity, as it stands now, either contains outdated/irrelevant information.

Extended content

Please delete:

  • For instance, The New York Times reported that James Thompson, the April 2017 Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont".[1] OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."[2]

Reason: This information has some connection to the article, but it is neither significantly relevant or succinct due to use of a lengthy quote.

I have provided more information on Daily Kos elections work that should make this section more up-to-date and informative. Please see below.

Please change:

  • "Apart from its activities as a blogging, news, and general digital media platform, the Daily Kos has taken decisions placing it in the category of politically active corporations."

to read as:

  • "In addition to being a blogging, news, and digital media platform, Daily Kos is a political organization." - This is a more succinct description.

Please add:

  • Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest.[3] Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email.[4] Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures.[5] The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.[6]
  • The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.[7]

using as a reference:

  • "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Please move:

  • Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[8]

to be in same paragraph as:

  • Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.[9]

References

  1. ^ Eligon, John. "Ron Estes, a Republican, Survives Tight House Race to Win Kansas Seat". The New York Times. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  2. ^ Balcerzak, Ashley. "Flurry of spending in Kansas 4th". OpenSecrets.org. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  3. ^ "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  4. ^ "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  5. ^ Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  6. ^ "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  7. ^ "Staff". Daily Kos.
  8. ^ Nir, David. "Daily Kos is proud to endorse Hillary Clinton, our first woman nominee for president". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  9. ^ Bluestein, Greg. "Nearly 200k donors help Jon Ossoff net record fundraising haul in Georgia special election". Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Meow panda (talk) 17:05, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 3-MAY-2019

Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request.  Spintendo  17:48, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal review 3-MAY-2019

Please delete: The New York Times reported that James Thompson, the April 2017 Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont".[1] OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."
no Declined.[note 1]


In addition to being a blogging, news, and digital media platform, Daily Kos is a political organization.
 Approved.Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).


Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest. Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email. Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures. The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.
no Declined.[note 2]


The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.
no Declined.[note 3]


Please move: "Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election." to be in same paragraph as: "Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos."
Clarification needed.[note 4]


___________

  1. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because it does not state what it is, about the claim or about the claim's use of a quote, which renders it as significantly less relevent or succinct.
  2. ^ This part of the edit request proposal was declined because reasons were not provided for why the information should be added. Please note that individual reasons should be placed as close to the proposed claim statement as possible, so much so, that it leaves little room for doubt on which reason applies where.
  3. ^ Ibid.
  4. ^ This part of the edit request proposal requires clarification because the request does not state where in the same paragraph, the statement should be moved to.

Request edit

Please add:

Extended content
  • Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest.[1] Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email.[2] Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures.[3] The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.[4]
  • The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.[5]

using as a reference:

  • "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Reason: To better inform readers about what types of political work Daily Kos does specifically, particularly re: elections.

Please delete:

  • For instance, The New York Times reported that James Thompson, the April 2017 Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont".[6] OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."[7]

Reason: This information has some connection to the article, but it is neither significantly relevant or succinct due to use of a lengthy quote. The candidate mentioned in this quote is not well-known; readers might better understand the impact of Daily Kos' work with the examples of the individuals listed below alone (Hillary Clinton and Jon Ossoff). It seems the paragraph below achieves the same purpose as this quote without being lengthy. If you do not recommend removal of this section, I believe it is better suited to join the paragraph mentioned below, about the endorsements of Clinton and Ossoff.

Please move:

  • Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[8]

to be in same paragraph as:

  • Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.[9]

therefore, to read as:

  • Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[10] Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.[11]

Reason: To put similar information in the same paragraph.

References

  1. ^ "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  2. ^ "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  3. ^ Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  4. ^ "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  5. ^ "Staff". Daily Kos.
  6. ^ Eligon, John. "Ron Estes, a Republican, Survives Tight House Race to Win Kansas Seat". The New York Times. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  7. ^ Balcerzak, Ashley. "Flurry of spending in Kansas 4th". OpenSecrets.org. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  8. ^ Nir, David. "Daily Kos is proud to endorse Hillary Clinton, our first woman nominee for president". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  9. ^ Bluestein, Greg. "Nearly 200k donors help Jon Ossoff net record fundraising haul in Georgia special election". Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  10. ^ Nir, David. "Daily Kos is proud to endorse Hillary Clinton, our first woman nominee for president". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  11. ^ Bluestein, Greg. "Nearly 200k donors help Jon Ossoff net record fundraising haul in Georgia special election". Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Meow panda (talk) 20:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 9-MAY-2019

  Edit request implemented  

  1. Red XN The request to add information regarding the "ongoing updates and analysis on elections" was not added, as the reasons were insufficient.[a]
  2. Red XN The request to delete information is declined for the same reason.[b]
  3. Green tickY The request to merge the sentences regarding Clinton and Ossoff fundraising was implemented.

Regards,  Spintendo  13:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ The provided reason did not state how and in what way the information acts to "better inform readers".
  2. ^ This provided reason did not state what it was, about the claim's use of a lengthy quote, which rendered the quote as significantly less relevent or succinct. Initially, the reason did not state what it was, about the candidate's state of "not being well-known", which necessitated the claim's removal. The newly provided reason that readers "might better understand the impact of Daily Kos' work with the (other) examples" does not state what it is, about the readers knowing the other candidates better, which requires the lesser known candidate's information to be deleted.

Elections & fundraising

Please add:

  • Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest.[1] Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email.[2] Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures.[3] The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.[4]
  • The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.[5]

using as a reference:

  • "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Reason: To better inform readers about what types of political work Daily Kos does specifically, particularly re: elections, by explaining the nature of the multiple newsletters and other resources created by Daily Kos staff that are circulated to thousands of readers on a daily or weekly basis. This provides a more in-depth understanding of what specifically Daily Kos does around elections, aside from endorsements and fundraising.

Please move:

  • For instance, The New York Times reported that James Thompson, the April 2017 Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont".[6] OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."[7]

To join:

  • Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[8] Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.[9]

Reason: I believe it belongs with the mentions of endorsements of Clinton and Ossoff, as that entire section is about endorsements and fundraising.

Therefore, to read:

Daily Kos has endorsed several notable Democratic candidates in state and national races, including Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.[10] Candidate Jon Ossoff, who ran for Georgia's 6th Congressional District in a special election in June 2017, also received an endorsement and $1.7 million in fundraising through Daily Kos.[11] In April 2017, the New York Times reported that James Thompson, the Democratic candidate for the vacant Kansas Fourth Congressional District (House) seat in Kansas, "was helped by nearly $150,000 from Daily Kos, [...] and some more modest contributions from a group aligned with Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont".[12] OpenSecrets.org reported that "the liberal Daily Kos endorsed Thompson and sent out a fundraising plea, which has so far garnered $178,000 in donations, according to its fundraising page."[13]

Meow panda (talk) 20:31, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  2. ^ "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  3. ^ Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  4. ^ "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  5. ^ "Staff". Daily Kos.
  6. ^ Eligon, John. "Ron Estes, a Republican, Survives Tight House Race to Win Kansas Seat". The New York Times. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  7. ^ Balcerzak, Ashley. "Flurry of spending in Kansas 4th". OpenSecrets.org. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  8. ^ Nir, David. "Daily Kos is proud to endorse Hillary Clinton, our first woman nominee for president". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  9. ^ Bluestein, Greg. "Nearly 200k donors help Jon Ossoff net record fundraising haul in Georgia special election". Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  10. ^ Nir, David. "Daily Kos is proud to endorse Hillary Clinton, our first woman nominee for president". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  11. ^ Bluestein, Greg. "Nearly 200k donors help Jon Ossoff net record fundraising haul in Georgia special election". Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  12. ^ Eligon, John. "Ron Estes, a Republican, Survives Tight House Race to Win Kansas Seat". The New York Times. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  13. ^ Balcerzak, Ashley. "Flurry of spending in Kansas 4th". OpenSecrets.org. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
The reasoning in the first part of the request does not state what it is about explaining the nature of the multiple newsletters and other resources created by Daily Kos staff which provides for a more in-depth understanding of Daily Kos's work. The second part of the request is already implemented.  Spintendo  18:49, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please add:

  • Daily Kos Elections provides ongoing updates and analysis on elections for Congress, state offices, and local offices through their Daily Kos Elections Live Digest.[1] Every weekday, the Elections team publishes the Morning Digest, a newsletter that covers every competitive race around the country and reaches over 80,000 subscribers via email.[2] Their Voting Rights Roundup newsletter, which covers important news related to voting -- including voter suppression, voter ID, redistricting, felony disenfranchisement, and voter registration -- goes out on a weekly basis. Daily Kos Elections also publishes This Week in Statehouse Action, a weekly roundup of updates and news from state legislatures.[3] The Elections team offers recaps on international political news once a month through the International Digest.[4]
  • The Daily Kos Elections team routinely tracks and makes endorsements in elections nationwide, at every level of the ballot, directing fundraising dollars to candidates. In 2017-2018, Daily Kos raised more than $8.7 million for over 80 candidates and campaigns in small grassroots donations.[5]

using as a reference:

  • "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  • "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.

Reason: To better inform readers about what types of political work Daily Kos does specifically, particularly re: elections, by explaining the nature of the multiple newsletters and other resources created by Daily Kos staff that are circulated to thousands of readers on a daily or weekly basis. The newsletters keep track of various candidates and their opponents in state-level races, endorsements they have received, from whom and how they are fundraising, and past positions they have held on various issues or votes they have taken on specific bills. They also announce political endorsements that Daily Kos has made. This provides a more in-depth understanding of what specifically Daily Kos does around elections, aside from endorsements and fundraising.

Meow panda (talk) 20:19, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  2. ^ "Elections". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  3. ^ Fiddler, Carolyn. "CFidd". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  4. ^ "Daily Kos Elections International". Daily Kos. Retrieved 19 April 2019.
  5. ^ "Staff". Daily Kos.

This newer request does not state what it is, about "explaning the nature of the multiple newsletters and other resources created by DailyKos staff" that "keep track of candidates and their opponents in state-level races, endorsements they have received", etc., which provides for a "more in-depth understanding of Daily Kos's work" — which was the initially given reason for making this change by the COI editor on May 10th, 2019. Specifically, what is it about those explanations which provide for a "more in depth understanding". A useful tool would be to list and compare the understanding which is already provided by the standing version of the article's descriptions of these items (i.e., the first sentence of the 17th paragraph: the claim that DailyKos is "a blogging, news, and digital media platform") as compared to the more in-depth understanding provided by these enhanced claims.[a] Please advise. Regards,  Spintendo  07:15, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ The level of understanding for what an article's subject does need not go beyond that which is minimally provided by the existing text. Additional "explanations" — especially when cited only to the subject itself — runs the risk of appearing to be WP:PROMOTION of the subject's publications. In which case, the reasons for adding these claims would not be "to provide understanding", but rather, "to promote the publication's offerings". The COI editor's reasons thus far for these changes have been that they provide "indepth understanding", but the COI editor has not detailed what it is about that depth which makes it anymore beneficial towards understanding on the part of the reader than which the current depth already provides.

Addition of information: Civiqs

Please add to the section "Nonpartisan polling":

  • In March 2018, Markos Moulitsas launched Civiqs, a nonpartisan online polling and analytics company that conducts public opinion research by polling a nationally representative online survey panel on a daily basis.[1][2] Daily Kos commissions monthly polls through Civiqs.[3]

Using as a reference:

  • Smith, Ben. "The Founder Of Daily Kos Just Launched A Massive New Polling Project". BuzzFeed News. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  • "What We Offer". Civiqs. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  • Fiddler, Carolyn. "Kos Media Launches Civiqs Polling and Analytics". Daily Kos. Retrieved 5 August 2019.

Reason: To add information that Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas founded his own polling and analytics company, and to explain the relationship between Daily Kos and Civiqs.

Meow panda (talk) 17:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Smith, Ben. "The Founder Of Daily Kos Just Launched A Massive New Polling Project". BuzzFeed News. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  2. ^ "What We Offer". Civiqs. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  3. ^ Fiddler, Carolyn. "Kos Media Launches Civiqs Polling and Analytics". Daily Kos. Retrieved 5 August 2019.

Please elaborate on why it is necessary to mention that one company Mr. Moulitsas has founded commissions monthly polls through another company which Mr. Moulitsas has founded. Also, if you could provide a source for this claim which is not connected to Mr. Moulitsas himself.[a] Please advise. When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the request edit template's answer parameter to read from ans=yes to ans=no. Regards,  Spintendo  19:11, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

  1. ^ The references for this item (a) come from one of the companies Mr. Moulitsas founded; and also (b) come from the second company which Mr. Moulitsas founded; and also is referenced by (c) a source who's author is an acquaintance of Mr. Moulitsas (enough of an aquaintance to have possession of Mr. Moulitsas' personal email).
Under that reasoning, perhaps adding it to Markos Moulitsas's article would be more appropriate? Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 19:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This claim has already been added to that article, in July 2018. Regards,  Spintendo  19:32, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request edit

Please add to the section "Nonpartisan polling":

Extended content
  • In March 2018, Markos Moulitsas launched Civiqs, a nonpartisan online polling and analytics company that conducts public opinion research by polling a nationally representative online survey panel on a daily basis.[1][2] Daily Kos commissions monthly polls through Civiqs.[3]

Using as a reference:

  • Smith, Ben. "The Founder Of Daily Kos Just Launched A Massive New Polling Project". BuzzFeed News. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  • "What We Offer". Civiqs. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  • Fiddler, Carolyn. "Kos Media Launches Civiqs Polling and Analytics". Daily Kos. Retrieved 5 August 2019.

References

  1. ^ Smith, Ben. "The Founder Of Daily Kos Just Launched A Massive New Polling Project". BuzzFeed News. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  2. ^ "What We Offer". Civiqs. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  3. ^ Fiddler, Carolyn. "Kos Media Launches Civiqs Polling and Analytics". Daily Kos. Retrieved 5 August 2019.

Reason: To add information that Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas founded his own polling and analytics company. This is important because it provides Wikipedia readers with a better understanding of what Daily Kos does in terms of political activities -- in this instance, commissioning political polling to provide their readers with insight into what Americans think about certain political issues and candidates. It also explains the relationship between Daily Kos and Civiqs.

There are many Wikipedia pages that share similar information or sections. Even though information about Civiqs is on Markos' Wikipedia page, seeing as Markos also owns Daily Kos, which has a relationship with Civiqs, it would make sense to explain Daily Kos' relationship to Civiqs here as well.

Regarding your concerns about the sources, Markos is well known to give his email address and other contact information to many people that he meets, and it is not necessarily an indicator of his closeness with someone. Additionally, it is unclear why it is an issue to directly cite the webpage of the website that explains what the company itself does.

Meow panda (talk) 21:12, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

because it provides Wikipedia readers with a better understanding of what Daily Kos does in terms of political activities Please elaborate upon what it is, about that better understanding, which requires this cross promotion to be needed in the article? It also explains the relationship between Daily Kos and Civiqs. Please explain what it is, about that relationship between the two entities, which requires them to be cross-promoted in the article beyond the fact that the subject own them both — a fact which has already been placed in the subject's article. If the connection between the two companies is as important as the two companies claim that it is, please provide a reference to this fact which is unconnected to either of the companies and which was not provided by the subject company's owner himself in a quasi-press release-type interview with BuzzFeed's Mr. Smith, the acquaintance who has known the subject "from the small world of political blogs, just a little, for years". When ready to proceed with the requested information, kindly change the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no.  Spintendo  01:06, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request edit

Please add to the section "Nonpartisan polling":

Extended content
  • In March 2018, Markos Moulitsas launched Civiqs, a nonpartisan online polling and analytics company that conducts public opinion research by polling a nationally representative online survey panel on a daily basis.[1][2] Daily Kos commissions monthly polls through Civiqs.[3]

Using as a reference:

  • "Online Polls Are Not Created Equal". The Aspen Institute. Retrieved 13 August 2019.
  • "What We Offer". Civiqs. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  • Fiddler, Carolyn. "Kos Media Launches Civiqs Polling and Analytics". Daily Kos. Retrieved 5 August 2019.

References

  1. ^ "Online Polls Are Not Created Equal". The Aspen Institute. Retrieved 13 August 2019.
  2. ^ "What We Offer". Civiqs. Retrieved 5 August 2019.
  3. ^ Fiddler, Carolyn. "Kos Media Launches Civiqs Polling and Analytics". Daily Kos. Retrieved 5 August 2019.

Reason: To add information that Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas founded his own polling and analytics company. This is important because it provides Wikipedia readers with a better understanding of what kind of work Daily Kos specifically does in terms of political activities -- in this instance, commissioning political polling to provide their readers with insight into what Americans think about certain political issues and candidates. It also explains the relationship between Daily Kos and Civiqs, which should be cross-posted for transparency and to provide the understanding that they are owned by the same individual, but are separate entities that do business with one another. Additionally, it explains where Daily Kos pulls their polling data from, which they use in news articles, press releases, etc.

Meow panda (talk) 14:24, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Aspen Planning and Evaluation Program is a consultant agency and is not a reliable secondary source. To add this item to the article, please add references which come from non-promotional, reliable, secondary sources unconnected to the subject organizations themselves. Regards,  Spintendo  22:32, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done edit request is unclear. SportsFan007 (talk) 20:56, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sportsfan007 Was that message meant for me, or Spintendo? Thank you. Meow panda (talk) 20:13, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of section from Markos Moulitsas' page on growth of Daily Kos

There is an important section on Markos Moulitsas’ Wikipedia page that isn’t on this page for some reason:

"Since its creation Daily Kos has grown to become the largest liberal community blog in the United States, with over 2.3 million registered users and 8 million unique viewers per month as of July 2018.[1]

The blog's popularity has attracted the attention of many Democratic senators, members of Congress, governors and candidates who have posted on the site, including Senators John Kerry[2] and Barbara Boxer,[3] Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid,[4] Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi,[5] former President Jimmy Carter,[6] and former President Barack Obama.[7]"

Please add to: New section about growth

Reason for adding to this page: This is relevant information that exists on Markos Moulitsas' Wikipedia page, but is very relevant (or even more so) to this page given that it is directly about Daily Kos. These paragraphs discuss the growth of the website and detail important political figures who have participated on the site, thus providing a better understanding of the kinds of voices that Daily Kos has been a platform for in the American political sphere since its creation.

Meow panda (talk) 20:25, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Dailykos.com Audience Insights". www.quantcast.com. Retrieved 2018-07-17. {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
  2. ^ Kerry, John. "John Kerry's Diary". John-kerry.dailykos.com. Retrieved April 13, 2010.
  3. ^ Boxer, Barbara. "Barbara Boxer's Diary". Barbara-boxer.dailykos.com. Retrieved April 13, 2010.
  4. ^ Reid, Harry. "Harry Reid's Diary". Harry-reid.dailykos.com. Retrieved April 13, 2010.
  5. ^ Democratic, House. "Nancy Pelosi's Diary". House-democratic-leader-nancy-pelosi.dailykos.com. Retrieved April 13, 2010.
  6. ^ Carter, Jimmy. "Jimmy Carter's Diary". Jimmy-carter.dailykos.com. Retrieved April 13, 2010.
  7. ^ Obama, Barack. "Barack Obama's Diary". Barack-obama.dailykos.com. Retrieved April 13, 2010.

Reply 16-AUG-2019

  Edit request declined  

  1. The Quantcast reference requires a log-in.
  2. The second part of the request is merely namedropping, and is not referenced by reliable secondary sources unconnected to the subject company.

Regards,  Spintendo  22:26, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Center-left?

Daily Kos doesn't claim to be "center left" anymore. They're more of a "third way" or even center-right website now, and they even criticize ideas and figures that are too "left".

Most of their main topics and stances these days are not "left" on any spectrum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FCC8:AA4A:5E00:2DA8:2424:A975:CA6C (talk) 09:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it should be far-left if we are to be fair regardless of how Daily Kos claims to be. Most media bias rating sites have them at the opposite of end of the horseshoe from publications like OANN which is classified as far-right on Wikipedia. It seems to present a non-neutral point of view and one that isn't based on facts. Davidgarcia84 (talk) 22:10, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Davidgarcia84, please provide reliable sources that say Daily Kos is "far left". – Muboshgu (talk) 22:13, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My argument wasn't based off specific sources calling them far-left but rather that the classification of far anything should be applied across the board equally. I don't consider this chart [1] to be from an especially reliable source but it's pretty representative of where most media bias checkers are consistently rating outlets. Daily Kos is generally always ranked as a mirror of conservative outlets like OANN & Daily Caller. Which are labeled from consensus on Wikipedia to be far-right. If you specifically require a source saying they are "far-left" I will see if I can find appropriate documentation and edit it into my reply.Davidgarcia84 (talk) 22:24, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Muboshgu Alright so all the major media bias ranking sites being Allsides[2] and Media Bias Fact Check [3]give Daily Kos the furthest left rating and the chart that I used from earlier that I was unsure of the reliability I found was referenced on a few .edu institutions. So I will take that as acceptable. So not only has Daily Kos been applied the furtest left-wing rating possible it is objectively the opposite of outlets we label far-right such as OANN. I think this is fair to be given the label of far-left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidgarcia84 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Davidgarcia84, there is consensus on Wikipedia that Allsides and Media Bias Fact Check are not reliable sources, as they are both crowdsourced/self-published. Please see [1] and [2]. warmly, ezlev. talk 22:51, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ezlev, It would seem on examination that most sites that rank media bias are done through crowdsourcing to gauge public opinion as public opinion usually decides what is far outside the mainstream political discourse. Do you have any examples of sources that are deemed acceptable by consensus as I imagine they would be the same. Also those were not the only sources used.Davidgarcia84 (talk) 22:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Davidgarcia84, are those even considered reliable here? They say "left", not "far left". "Furthest left" doesn't mean "far left". And how they rate OANN doesn't matter on this page. The reliable sources I see either call Daily Kos "left wing" or "liberal". I'm fine with either of those descriptors, as I think "center left" is inaccurate. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:00, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mubogshu, in what world is Buzzfeed a reliable source? The Washington Post is generally a scrupulous and well-indended publication, but you have only provided one source labeling it "left." If OANN is described as far-right, and the Daily Kos is on the opposite of that spectrum according to thousands of people who say so, would that not be more reliable than two people writing two articles for two news organizations? wolf (talk) 23:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mubogshu, I'd be fine with left-wing but make no mistake how we classify other media sources like OANN does matter. Because if two sites are commonly held to be in public opinion "two sides of the same ideological coin" and you give one a moniker that labels it as far or extreme and the other not it gives the appearance of bias which we have a problem with on Wikipedia.Davidgarcia84 (talk) 23:10, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Davidgarcia84, this is the talk page for Daily Kos. It is for discussing Daily Kos. OANN has its own talk page, which is for discussing that network. Daily Kos is not the "flipside of the ideological coin" from OANN. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:17, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mubogshu, Measured public opinion disagrees with you that they are not equivalents. I'd concede that may not be enough to suffice in this instance. But I think generally it's public opinion that shapes what is far outside the norm or within the Overton window. Davidgarcia84 (talk) 00:27, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Frickiewolf, BuzzFeed is not a reliable source, but BuzzFeed News is. See WP:RSP. Equating Daily Kos to OANN is your WP:OR. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:11, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Davidgarcia84 et al: I've removed the disputed phrasing entirely, as it's redundant; the site is already characterized as focusing on "liberal American politics" later in the same sentence. That characterization is sourced, reasonable, and does not contradict content from the rest of the article. warmly, ezlev. talk 23:57, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ezlev, I agree it was redundant and appreciate you cleaning it up but I made the edit of saying left-wing American politics since that's the consensus term that Mubogshu agreed with as well. Let me know if you disagree Davidgarcia84 (talk) 00:23, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Davidgarcia84, liberal is not synonymous with left-wing, and the sources which are currently cited all say liberal. Describing the Daily Kos as left-wing based on sources which describe it as liberal is original research. I haven't reverted your change because I want to avoid violating 3RR, but I'd appreciate it if you changed it back yourself in accordance with Wikipedia policy. warmly, ezlev. talk 01:21, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ezlev, That seems fair I will revert back to your changes Davidgarcia84 (talk) 01:37, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.adfontesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Media-Bias-Chart-6.0_Hi_Res_July_Edition_Licensed-min-1.jpg
  2. ^ https://www.allsides.com/news-source/daily-kos
  3. ^ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-kos/

Maoist

It should be noted here, that the site is Maoist. 139.138.6.121 (talk) 17:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It would be if that was true, but it's not true, so no we won't be "noting" that. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edits to "Organization overview"

Please add:

New section: "Advocacy" Daily Kos is involved in progressive advocacy, and regularly organizes people to make phone calls and send letters to their elected officials on a variety of issues and legislation. The organization also delivers petitions to elected officials' offices.[1]

Using as a reference:

"About Us". Daily Kos. Retrieved 24 March 2021.

--Meow panda (talk) 20:19, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The above edit request was declined. The below is a new addition, so I've reopened the request. ezlevtlk
ctrbs 20:55, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Would the following be an acceptable source?

Use as a reference: [2]

--Meow panda (talk) 20:51, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "About Us". Daily Kos. Retrieved 24 March 2021.
  2. ^ Grim, Ryan. "Daily Kos Is Back". HuffPost. Retrieved 28 April 2021.
Not Done: Need reliable sourcing. Heart (talk) 04:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promotional content

I've removed a "guest blogger" section sourced entirely to the website. Frankly this article on the whole suffers from improper reliance on sourcing not indepdent of the website, and this leads to a promotional tone. Coretheapple (talk) 17:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Political leaning

Added sources describing its political leaning: [3] 2601:547:500:E930:25AE:536A:32D0:6E91 (talk) 01:20, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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