Talk:Chase Strangio
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This is not a notable entry and appears to be an attempt to create a LinkedIn profile for a relatively unknown lawyer.
Chase Strangio appears to be a fairly unremarkable attorney working at the ACLU. Strangio's career is not particularly noteworthy. Strangio is simply just one of hundreds of staff attorneys at the ACLU.
Without making any comment on Strangio's competencies as a lawyer, nothing about this article justifies inclusion on Wikipedia. As described by the article and some brief research online, Strangio's career involves a few appearances on television that do not merit a breakaway Wikipedia article. If Chase Strangio satisfies Wikipedia's notability standards, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability, then virtually any lawyer who has practiced for over ten years and has been interviewed about their professions is going to satisfy Wikipedia. That is a vast number of individuals; for example, many corporate lawyers routinely make headlines by virtue of their name appearing on the docket of a prominent matter. Most do not have entries on Wikipedia, and that is good policy. First, Wikipedia would be actively hurt by the appearance of every lawyer attempting to create a biography for themselves on Wikipedia. It would needlessly commercialize the platform by allowing individuals to attempt to coopt Wikipedia's reputation for noteworthiness for themselves. Indeed, countless doctors, researchers, businesspersons, government employees and other people working in and in front of the public eye do not have articles, and should not, because Wikipedia is not LinkedIn and should remain that way.
In short, this is not a platform to advance the parochial interests of legal practitioners. Strangio's article dilutes Wikipedia and should be removed in its entirety. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.4.243.219 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- I've replied to this identical comment in the deletion discussion. Funcrunch (talk) 19:34, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Birth name
Any public information from reliable sources about his birth name? --2604:2000:1280:4288:2849:CD8E:80F8:DACA (talk) 03:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- As Strangio did not become notable before his transition, his birth name is not relevant to include in this article. Funcrunch (talk) 05:03, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- If it is mentioned anywhere in reliable sources it can belong in the article too. --2604:2000:1280:4288:2849:CD8E:80F8:DACA (talk) 13:06, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Just because something is mentioned in a reliable source doesn't mean we need to include it. Adding Strangio's birth name (deadname) would add nothing of importance to this article. Deadnaming is harmful to trans people and should be avoided whenever possible. Funcrunch (talk) 19:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- If Strangio is transgender, that is an essential bit of information about him that should be included in the article. It is part of what makes Strangio notable. If the influence of trans people is causing Wikipedia to leave out such information, then that makes Wikipedia more useless than it already is. Trans people may want to erase their "dead" selves, but the "dead" selves of notable persons is part of history that should be included in encyclopedia articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.185.65 (talk) 05:54, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- Just because something is mentioned in a reliable source doesn't mean we need to include it. Adding Strangio's birth name (deadname) would add nothing of importance to this article. Deadnaming is harmful to trans people and should be avoided whenever possible. Funcrunch (talk) 19:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- If it is mentioned anywhere in reliable sources it can belong in the article too. --2604:2000:1280:4288:2849:CD8E:80F8:DACA (talk) 13:06, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Remarks on Shrier book
(Tried and failed to do this with a dummy edit and edit summary, figured it's better being on the talk page anyway.)
Regarding these recent edits: FWIW, the protected status of Strangio's Twitter account is very recent, and may be temporary. Funcrunch (talk) 16:58, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Checking the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine, it appears Strangio protected his Twitter account sometime between June 23 and June 26 (i.e., this week). Funcrunch (talk) 21:21, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
This is a dishonest article
What Strangio is known for are the number of extreme positions that he has taken on various issues related to trans people, positions that are so illogical that most people who hear them consider them absurd. It is also well known that Strangio has influenced the ACLU to abandon its traditional devotion to freedom of speech and, instead, take up liberal positions which sometimes violate freedom of speech. Of course, Wikipedia is doing something similar, as evidenced by this article: Strangio believes it is transphobic to mention the past of a trans person when writing about that person (as in writing an article in an encyclopedia, like this one).
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