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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 7, 2022.

Latina (Reykon song)

Recently created, not mentioned on target page. Misleading redirect. Richhoncho (talk) 13:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:43, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Route 60/62 in Illinois (old version)

U.S. Route 60/62 in Illinois is already a redirect, so U.S. Route 60/62 in Illinois (old version) is completely useless. Additionally, it is not used anywhere important. Gsquaredxc (talk) 19:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Car track

Retarget or disambiguate. I expect this was created as a misspelling of KarTrak, which now has it's own article but was formerly covered here (c.f #Cartrak). However I think this is also a plausible search term for race track, and google also brings up results for Hot Wheels and Scalextric track, car track days and track cars (a disambig I'm about to create); finally there is Car and Track. I don't think the last two are great targets (but would be valid see alsos on a dab page) so I'm unsure what the best target is or whether this should be disambiguated. Thryduulf (talk) 19:48, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My Big Fat GRSSK Wedding

Latinized redirect of the stylization "My Big Fat GRΣΣK Wedding". There is no equivalent redirect containing the capital sigma — GRΣΣK mentioned below is the only one of its kind on Wikipedia — and this redirect mixes sentence case and title case in a way that the film does not. Only 1 pageview in the last 90 days, compared to 152550 for the target. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 18:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Grssk

Same as below, except that this was not created by Eubot. Only 10 pageviews in the last 90 days, compared to 89 for the stylized title GRΣΣK and 39920 for the target. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 18:14, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wolf (upcoming film)

No subjects at target are "upcoming". The assumption is that this redirect formerly referred to either Wolf (2021 Indian film) or Wolf (2021 Irish-Polish film), thus why the redirect targets a disambiguation page. Steel1943 (talk) 18:13, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: Well on one hand if we keep it, there will likely be another upcoming film called Wolf and it will be accurate again, but also there is no reason for this to exist and waiting for a broken clock to be right isn't the way redirects are to work. We don't have say The current time redirecting to midnight. TartarTorte 18:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GRSSK

Erroneous Eubot creation based on a stylization. Only 7 pageviews in the last 90 days, compared to 89 for the stylized title GRΣΣK and 39920 for the target. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 18:13, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Allentown, Pennsylva.

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

(Disclaimer, I nominated this 1.5 years ago and this was kept) This is not an abbreviation for Pennsylvania. It is based on a misread HUD document (see File:Screenshot_of_HUD_Document_for_Pennsylvania.png). The Pennsylva is just because the nia wraps around to the next line. TartarTorte 18:11, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Pennsylva. is not listed at List of U.S. state and territory abbreviations. But, try searching Google this way: “pennsylva -pennsylvania”. The minus sign will make sure the full name of the state is not in the search results. Anythingyouwant (talk) 23:46, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

War of the Worlds (upcoming TV series)

There's no information about any "upcoming TV series" in the target article. I assume this redirect currently targets a disambiguation page since the target lists two TV series released in 2019, meaning that at one point, the redirect was probably ambiguous. Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Republic of the United States of America

Restore my redirect to the United States. Privybst (talk) 17:18, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep everyone can find the main US article without a redirect--but the important page on Republicanism in the United States has very good info on what a "republic" really means. This is a 2022 political issue. Rjensen (talk) 17:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If readers wanted to know what "republic" really means they would search for Republic. "Republic of" is a search for a country's title, not a search for political theory or ideology. Just because you think the article is good, helpful, and especially relevant to the current year doesn't mean it makes sense as a redirect target. Republicanism in the United States can already be found through other redirects that do make sense like American republicanism and Republicanism in the U.S., and the article itself is linked on hundreds of articles via navigation templates. It's not hard to find, it doesn't need extra help. – Scyrme (talk) 19:09, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore previous target of United States; searching the exact phrase "Republic+of+the+United+States+of+America" returns results which refer explicitly to the country not to republicanism in America. The change of target was unwarranted and unhelpful. – Scyrme (talk) 19:13, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Restore target to United States per Scyrme. Someone using this title is looking for he country not its politics. Thryduulf (talk) 19:31, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to United States per the above. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Darna (upcoming film)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was withdrawn. Thanks Pppery; I totally missed that. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 17:47, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Odd one here: The target is no longer upcoming and is not a film, but the redirect is a {{R with history}}. It seems that the target article's subject was originally intended to be a film, but was changed to a TV series. With that being said, I think the plan here with this review is to move without a redirect to Darna (??????? film) or something like that, but I have no idea what should be put in at "???????" in the disambiguator for the new title. I mean, the first idea that came to my head was Darna (film converted to TV series), but that's too unwieldy; is there precedence for a title and/or disambiguator like this? Steel1943 (talk) 17:14, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

Pseudohiemalorachnus

Not mentioned at the target, zero hits on Google Scholar, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 15:13, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment it is listed at List of Ediacaran genera where it is attributed to Grytsenko 2009 and noted as a "junior synonym of Nenoxites". I don't know whether that is correct (Google scholar does find a couple of possibly relevant papers that cite "Grytsenko (2009)" but that's as far as I've been able to get in verifying it) but if it is then maybe a mention should be added to the target and/or the redirect retargetted to that list? If it isn't correct then the list should be corrected. This would probably benefit from the attention of someone with knowledge of the relevant subject area. Thryduulf (talk) 16:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jefferson Myrna Brind Center

Not mentioned at target. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:57, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What tne

Bizarre Eubot redirects coming from incorrect attempts to asciify the stylized title of the target. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:57, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

System of government

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. Actually I didn't really insist on retargeting. I just wanted to hear other opinions on my proposal. Privybst (talk) 15:44, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it is better to retarget to Political system? I assume that talk pages of redirects are generally not watched by many users, thus I open this section here. Privybst (talk) 14:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

∑:3

Not mentioned in target. Note that the initial character is a summation symbol and not a capital sigma (Σ). –LaundryPizza03 (d) 03:06, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Noitaton hsilop

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Previously deleted per G7 following the March 2020 RfD. New redirect does not resolve concerns raised last time. No useful results on the Internet. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 02:59, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • A question for any passing admins: Did the old redirect also have an "incorrect name" notice? If so, could we subject this to a G4? — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:04, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • It didn't, but it wouldn't be subject to G4 either way. G4 only applies to pages deleted as a result of the consensus of a deletion discussion but this was speedily deleted (on the request of a different author) - even though it was listed at RfD it was only there for about 90 minutes before deletion so doesn't count. Thryduulf (talk) 08:02, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: This should at the very least target Reverse Polish Notation not just Polish Notation, but RPN is more taking thins like and turning it into TartarTorte 12:59, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as an implausible search term and an incomprehensible joke that doesn't embody what Polish notation is anyway. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 14:04, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I can't stand the existence of WP:PANDORA, but it definitely applies here. Steel1943 (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    For the record, my stance remains unchanged in the face of the creator's "keep" comment. Steel1943 (talk) 13:59, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    ...But weak retarget to Reverse Polish Notation may be okay. Steel1943 (talk) 14:02, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Not used, hence useless. --CiaPan (talk) 18:54, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, purely a joke and an implausible search term. eviolite (talk) 01:11, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Obvious keep. Of course this is a joke, even a very old joke, but not ours. In contrast to what a few commented above, this is not an implausible search term at all. You will find hits for it in Google and even in a few publications, so people occasionally run into it in the real world possibly not "getting it" and wondering what it is, then turning to Wikipedia rightfully expecting to get an answer. If we don't have an entry point for it, we are doing them a disservice and leave them uneducated - this is against our goal to create an encyclopedia for everyone to use, old or young, smart or dumb, funny or dry. Our normal procedure for misnomers like this is to create a redirect to the correct term and tag the redirect with the special rcat {{r from misnomer|correct term}} (as we already do), so that it cannot be confused with a "proper" term. The rcat allows for automatic bot correction of the term if someone would link to it. There might be other rcats even identifying this as a genuine joke, if so we might consider adding them as well. Per our criteria for redirects WP:REDIR, this redirect cannot cause any kind of confusion as we are explicitly telling users that this is not the correct term. It will be only entered into the search box by people running into the term in the real world, and for them, it is clearing up the confusion they are under by pointing them to the correct term per WP:R#KEEP #4. This is not weaking Wikipedia as a serious encyclopedia, but strenghening it, and by deleting the redirect, we will not improve Wikipedia in the slightest, but making it less reliable. Therefore, keep.
    --Matthiaspaul (talk) 18:30, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    @Matthiaspaul in searching for "Noitaton hsilop" -wikipedia on google, I got 14 results. Albeit, they are other people using the term, but it seems to refer to RPN and not just standard Polish Notation. I'm wavering on whether that is strong enough for a retarget to RPN from my own view, but I was wondering if you would be interested in a retarget to Reverse Polish Notation or if you want to keep at Polish Notation? TartarTorte 22:54, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I'm convinced by Mattiaspaul's comments above. That this has been independently created twice strengthens those arguments. Thryduulf (talk) 22:13, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Also, isn't this redirect already at WP:DAFT? 68.43.231.28 (talk) 14:15, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aelfred cyning

Aelfred is an Old English spelling, and cyning is Old English for king, but I don't see "Aelfred cyning" used in modern English. Too implausible as a search term. MB 02:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Principal Secretary to the Prime Miniister of Canada

Implausible typo TartarTorte 02:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep as an avoided double redirect if "Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister of Canada" is the formal title of the target. Such a long title, like all terms, could be plausibly mistyped by someone. I don't find it implausible to mistype "minister" with an extra i. However, if the "Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister of Canada" is not the formal title of the target, "Principal Secretary to the Prime Minister of Canada" should be removed from the target article and this redirect may be deleted. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cartrak

KarTrak is mentioned in Automatic equipment identification. I believe "Cartrak" is more likely to be a misspelling of KarTrak, in addition, I don't think it was ever a genericized trademark. Therefore, I am proposing either Cartrak to be retargeted to KarTrak. 𝕒𝕥𝕠𝕞𝕚𝕔𝕕𝕣𝕒𝕘𝕠𝕟𝟙𝟛𝟞 🗨️ 🖊️ 01:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Windows Pista

An IP tagged the page for speedy deletion claiming Windows Pista is not an official Windows release and should not be redirected to Windows Vista. Windows Pista is an online game. This page serves no purpose (unless someone decides to add content soon). Procedurally relisting at RfD. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:24, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]