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Algae are not plants

Hello, the section on algae in this article does not mention that algae are not in the kingdom Plantae; I feel this is important to mention, and would request that it would be changed .16:03, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Please read Plant#Current definitions of Plantae where it is explained that algae are part of Viridiplantae, the definition being used here. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We still need to provide more clarity earlier in the article. The definition mentions Linnaeus as creating the basis of modern system of classification, but only mentions that "since then, it has become clear that the plant kingdom as originally defined included several unrelated groups". There is no date or citation. Then it says: "However, these organisms are still sometimes considered plants, particularly in informal contexts.^{[citation needed]}". What needs a citations is the former sentence, but does the latter sentence need a citation if it is easy to prove with any usage? Here's one in a PubMed paper[1]). I can't edit this, but please understand that editors on other articles rely on a clear definition in this article so that we can avoid "fights" like this one [2] Slythfox (talk) 05:52, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ferns are "Polypodiophyta" and not "Pteridophyta"

In the Diversity paragraph, lycopods are called "Lycopodiophyta", while ferns (and allies) are called "Pteridophyta" instead of "Polypodiophyta". "Pteridophyta" is actually a taxon that used to include both lycopodes ("Lycopodiophyta") and ferns ("Polypodiophyta"), and it's not considered monophyletic. I suggest to change "Pteridophyta" into "Polypodiophyta", since clicking "Pteridophyta" will direct you to the "Polypodiophyta/Polypodiopsida" page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seedling98 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Pteridophyte is used in the informal group column so Pteridophyta there is both inaccurate and redundant. Surprised this hasn't been caught before. — Jts1882 | talk 13:19, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Plant/Jung

This file is protected - I am cautious about altering but would like to insert near the top :-"Jung was a man of great intellect, he defined a plant as: "A plant is a living non-sentient body, attached to a particular place or habitat, where it is able to feed, to grow in size, and finally to propagate itself."^[1] Please advise lest I should not enter this. Morton1945 (talk) 14:43, 12 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Plant

Why you have chosen this article to evaluate?[edit] I chose this article because I have a passion for plants. specifically houseplants. I work at a local nursery and work in a greenhouse everyday with hundreds of different species of plants. I think this article is important because it can help people better understand plants and gardening. my first impression of this article is that it was very informational and continued a wide array of different sources.

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the lead introduces the topic and give clear understand of what the article is going to be about. the content in this article is very pertinent to the topic and useful to understanding the article at large. from what I can tell the article is completely neutral and contains no bias or one sided arguments or claims. while this article is sourced from trustworthy and scholarly sites, they do seep to be slightly outdated. the sources come from many different places and appear to be in working order. this article is well written and easy to read but due to the sheer amount of information, one may consider it to be lengthy. the media included plays a large part of the understanding of the topic. after viewing the talk page, this article has an edit that was due to an incorrect image that was displaying the wrong plant for a description. this article is also part of a wiki project. overall, I enjoyed this article and its contents. I think the best part about this article is the wide array of information that it contained. its downfall is that it is rather lengthy and may deter a reader, I think a more concise version would be beneficial. this article is very well developed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zjdoane (talk • contribs) 04:01, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Morton, A.G. 1981 History of Botanical Science. p.169. Academic Press.ISBN 0-12-508382-3

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217.20.22.166 (talk) 09:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Please describe the change you want made to the article. Kardoen (talk) 10:02, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"The latter"

Mistaken or confusing back reference here: "The latter includes the Embryophyta (land plants) which include the flowering plants...." Problem: the phrase "the latter" is most naturally construed with the phrase "green algae" at the end of the previous sentence. But the green algae do not include the Embryophyta etc.. If "the latter" is read as a back reference to Glaukophyta, then it is no longer true that Glaukophyta "consists in green algae" -- it includes the green algae as well as the Embryophyta, but does not consist in the green algae. I would replace the phrase "the latter" with an explicit noun, and then decide whether Glaukophyta do or do not include Viridiplantae. Right now, the sentences do not make sense. 2600:1017:B010:D64C:82EB:6853:B2FC:B0BC (talk) 11:11, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Green algae does include Embryophyta; the sentence is correct. Kardoen (talk) 14:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Green algae usually excludes the Embryophyta (e.g. in the cladogram). I think it should say "includes green algae and Embryophyta. The latter includes". The problem was introduced with this edit, before which the embryophytic groups were listed along with green algae. Restoring that version is another option. — Jts1882 | talk 16:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plant

Plantae. Historically, the plant kingdom encompassed all living things that were not animals, and included algae and fungi; however, all current definitions of Plantae exclude the fungi and some algae, as well as the prokaryotes (the archaea and bacteria). By one definition, plants form the clade Viridiplantae (Latin name for "green plants") which is sister of the Glaucophyta, and consists of the green algae. The latter includes the Embryophyta (land plants) which include the flowering plants, conifers and other gymnosperms, ferns and their allies, hornworts, liverworts, and mosses.

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In the text "Musk Thistle are invasive species in texas." under the photo of the musk thistle, Texas is written with a lowercase "t" instead of the correct "T". Change "texas" to "Texas", please. Kikiswikis (talk) 17:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Morton, A.G. 1981 History of Botanical Science. p.169. Academic Press.ISBN 0-12-508382-3

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