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Suggestions for section on science and technology
Hi, just a suggestion, the UNESCO Science Report may be a good place to start in improving this section and can copied from directly using these instructions.
Thanks John Cummings (talk) 12:41, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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Native Names in Infobox
Hello, I have decided that it would be a good idea to include the native names in Ewe and Twi to the Infobox of the country.
- "Kwasafoman Gaana" in Twi (Source: Christaller, Johann Gottlieb (1881). A Dictionary of the Asante and Fante Language Called Tshi (Chwee, Tw̌i): With a Grammatical Introduction and Appendices on the Geography of the Gold Coast and Other Subjects. Evangelical Missionary Society. p. 271.)
- "Ghana Dukɔa" in Ewe (Source: Duthie, Alan S.; Vlaardingerbroek, R. K. (1981). Bibliography of Gbe: (Ewe, Gen, Aja, Xwala, Fon, Gun, Etc.) : Publications on and in the Language. Basler Afrika Bibliographien. p. 123.) - In addition to the fact that the Constitution of Togo (Another Country where Ewe is widely spoken) uses the term "Dukɔa" to refer to the country as a Republic. (Source: Blaustein, Albert P.; Flanz, Gisbert H. (1980). Constitutions of the Countries of the World: Togo. Oceana Publications. ISBN 978-0-379-00467-0.)
I ask here first to establish consensus about this, I have asked before about adding the native languages to the infobox of the Uganda article and I plan to do the same with Ghana, but first I want to receive additional information and clarify some doubts about it, all the translations and transcriptions come from academic books written by linguists specialized in West African languages. - Pinging @Drmies:, being one of the contributors who recently edited the article. Seb { 💬 Talk + 📝 Edits } 13:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- User:JSeb05, I think I'm fine with that, and the sourcing seems OK--though the issue is somewhat clouded by the history of Ghana. Are those names relevant to the area between 1821 and 1957? Drmies (talk) 15:23, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- It depends, both "Kwasafoman" and "Dukɔa", are terms that have been around for a long time, which are the words used by Twi and Ewe communities to refer to formal/organized states (Many languages in Africa use such words to refer to their own countries as for example "Ilizwe" is the term used by many Ndebele communities to refer to a country (See Zimbabwe infobox) and (Wiktionary entry)). These terms are still used to this day, one example is that the Ministry of Finance publishes documents in Ewe, which is seen using the term "Ghana Dukɔa", in addition to information about Twi, one of the examples is Kasahorow Foundation, which is in charge of publishing documents and information about various African languages, mainly Akan. ("Gaana" is the phonetic transcription of the country name using typical Twi syllables that are close to the standard pronunciation of Ghanaian English, although the transliteration of "Ghana" is also accepted, which is used by the Ministry of Finance)
- Specifying in the history part, it is a bit complicated, because before Ghana was conformed by several kingdoms and these had different ways of naming themselves, these were unified in a single entity by the United Kingdom, which gave the country a generic name, which was "Gold Coast", in reference to the mining produced in the territory. When Ghana became independent, the country's first president, Kwame Nkrumah, decided to name the country after one of the largest empires in West African history, which was the Ghana empire, although this empire had never controlled part of the territory of the modern country, instead that name was chosen for pan-African reasons and to unite the population more by not giving preference to any ethnic group.
- Although I think that the part of History is not so relevant, because current dictionaries continue to use these terms, unfortunately a large part of them are under a paywall or are not digitized, which prevents with the WP:Verifiability rule, although I think it is not so necessary since we have as source Ghana's Ministry of Finance and the Kasahorow Foundation, which confirms the country's respective transcriptions into those languages. Seb { 💬 Talk + 📝 Edits } 16:10, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
Lead edits
For the second time I reverted a bunch of edits by User:Brllo, and I'll explain why, briefly. I can't undo them individually since they're all to the same section.
- "languages has no source, these are not national languages, but termed "government-sponsored" in sub-section below": the infobox calls for languages that are "recognised but not necessarily in country/territory-wide law, etc". There is no need to fetishize the official status of this or that language or pretend that Languages of Ghana doesn't explain the linguistic wealth of the country.
- "details stored in box or below": I don't know what that means but that this information is in some box doesn't mean it can't be in the lead. This is a matter of editorial judgment and convention and boxes don't seem relevant to me.
- "not the official language for the name" is like the first point: both these languages have near 20 million speakers each, many in Ghana. This is not about status.
- "unsourced" is silly. This is the lead. "Biomes" isn't sourced either, and to remove "diverse" can be a matter of editorial judgment but sourcing isn't relevant.
- "wording a little"--this edit makes it worse. "Most of what later is Ghana" and "Kingdoms emerged were the..." are ungrammatical.
- this has some editorial tweaks, and I agree with the removal of "He became the prime...", but other changes are not helpful. Drmies (talk) 15:34, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
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