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to the editor who wrote in the history - "we can do this all day. who are you to delete this?"

We will not do this all day. You seem to miss the point of Wiki, it is not a platform for advertising a (your?) company. Much of the nonsense you added was little more than promotional in nature.

An irrelevant history. full of typos, self praise and advertising. A discussion of the Round the World Yacht race!!!

A listing of products/services the company provides! Even nonsense about an au pair program and some school programs.

An irrelevant discussion of the logo.

Then some more product advertising, and of course excessive links to all products mentioned.

Luckylou222 (talk) 05:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This company is a scam, they send you letters telling you your student "was selected because of high academic achievement" to "be awarded" a trip to somewhere, well my 3 year old was awarded this trip... interesting as she does not even go to school yet. Obviously they paid someone for a list of names of children. A brief google on them lets you know how terrible they are to their employees and they do not refund trip purchases for any reason, even when you buy trip insurance, they fine you hundreds of dollars. they have ripoffreport and BBB complaints, DELETE THIS PAGE!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.224.241.128 (talk) 22:20, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Please explain why the two entities should be linked. No context has been given, no third party reference. They happen to have the same owner, not much else. Or can you give more reasons.Luckylou222 (talk) 03:51, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there is a relationship, but it think the nature and detail of the relationship should be included. One sentence is not a great addition to WikipediaLuckylou222 (talk) 16:14, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"They're affiliated in some fashion" - I think we both know that this is not enough for inclusion in an encyclopaedia.Luckylou222 (talk) 16:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You say that the two companies "happen to have the same owner, not much else." It would appear that you know a lot about EF and Hult, but you don't want anyone else to know. Do you have sources?
There are plenty of reliable sources indicating an affiliation, but they do not indicate the precise nature of that affiliation. I think that Wikipedia users should be given access to the information that these entities are affiliated. --Orlady (talk) 17:33, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What is the point of listing one subsidiary of EF? Please do explain. As for the nonsense "you don't want anyone else to know", take a more professional approach please.Luckylou222 (talk) 02:22, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:IDONTLIKEIT for other indications that your apparent rationale for removing this information is against Wikipedia practice. --Orlady (talk) 15:08, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please state the reason why the one sentence regarding Hult should be included, if you don't have a good reason, it should be removed. I have tried to engage in discussion, but you have provided no argument for your case. Luckylou222 (talk) 05:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I saw no reason to write an essay on the subject to satisfy the demands of a user whose entire involvement with Wikipedia has been aimed at removing information about EF and Hult.
There happens to be sourced information about a relationship (although that relationship is described different ways in different sources, leading me to use the word "affiliated" because the nature of the relationship is not verifiable) between EF and another entity that has a Wikipedia article. Yes, it's an isolated factoid, but Wikipedia does not exclude sourced, objective information from an article merely because the article is not replete with other information about the topic.
You apparently know a lot about EF, but don't want to contribute your information and sources to the article. That's OK, but your lack of interest in contributing does not justify removing other people's contributions. --Orlady (talk) 15:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You still have not explained why one particular related entity should be mentioned in an almost throwaway sentence. No essay required. Can you explain or will just continue to avoid the question? Luckylou222 (talk) 23:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

March 2014 new page sections, requesting peer review

Research

In 2014, EF released a suite of free online standardized English tests called the EF Standard English Test (EF SET).[1] EF Learning Labs publishes the annual EF English Proficiency Index, a ranking of English language skills by country based on EF SET test results.[2] [3][4] The EF EPI claims to show a link between a country’s adult English proficiency and its economic competitiveness.[5]

EF researchers have collaborated with Cambridge University, Harvard Graduate School of Education, and several other higher education institutions to research second language acquisition processes. [6][7][8]

Sponsorships

The company has a history of affiliation with international sporting events. EF is the official supplier of language training services to the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games[9] and held the same position for the 2018 PyeongChang Olympic Games[10], the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio[11], the 2014 Olympic Games in Sochi[12], the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, and the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul. [13][14]The 3-time Olympian DeeDee Trotter is the EF Olympics brand ambassador.[15]The yacht EF Language, sponsored by the company, won the 1997-1998 Whitbread Round the World Race with the yacht EF Education also competing the same year.[16] In 2017, EF became one of the primary sponsors of the professional cycling team EF Education First Drapac.[17]

Philanthropy

After the April 2015 Nepal earthquake, EF committed to rebuild Jalapa Devi Higher Secondary School using Japanese quake-resistant construction methods.[18] The school opened to students in early 2018. [19]Every year, EF sponsors students to attend its annual student leader's summit and offers a number of scholarships for international student travel.[20][21] K8bell (talk) 12:41, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Take A New Test Aimed At The World's English-Language Learners". NPR. October 1, 2014.
  2. ^ "Why Asian Countries Are Investing So Heavily In The English Language". Forbes. November 30, 2017.
  3. ^ "English where she is spoke". The Economist. October 24, 2012.
  4. ^ "English Proficiency Falters Among the French". The New York Times. November 10, 2013.
  5. ^ "Countries with Better English Have Better Economies". Harvard Business Review. November 15, 2013.
  6. ^ "EF About Us". ef.com. March 13, 2018.
  7. ^ "Mapping Cross-Linguistic Writing Development in Adolescents". Harvard University Language for Learning Research Group.
  8. ^ "The EF-Cambridge Open Language Database (EFCamDat)". Cambridge University Department for Theoretical and Applied Linguistics. 2015.
  9. ^ "Tokyo 2020 Welcomes EF Education First Japan Ltd. as a Tokyo 2020 Official Partner". Tokyo 2020 Organising Committee. July 5, 2016.
  10. ^ "EF - the Education Sponsor for PyeongChang 2018". PyeongChang Organizing Committee. November 5, 2015.
  11. ^ "How Brazil plans to teach a million people English before the Rio Olympics". Wired. December 8, 2014.
  12. ^ "Why EF is Dominating the Sochi Winter Olympics". BostInno. February 7, 2014.
  13. ^ "Mass Team Will Help Brazil Learn English for 2016 Olympics". Boston Globe. August 4, 2014.
  14. ^ "Russia in race for Olympic English". The Guardian. June 7, 2012.
  15. ^ "The VIP Lounge with DeeDee Trotter". Boston Globe. May 12, 2017.
  16. ^ "A racer's life: EF Education in the 1997-98 Whitbread round the world race". Yachting World. October 18, 2016.
  17. ^ "Cycling's "Green Team" Lands Saving Green". Wall Street Journal. September 9, 2017.
  18. ^ "International support pours into Nepal for reconstruction of quake-damaged schools". Xinhua. October 2, 2016.
  19. ^ "Jalapa Devi Higher Secondary School opens its doors to students of Sindhupalchowk". Kathmandu Tribune. February 2, 2018.
  20. ^ "Harville selected as EF Global Citizen Scholar". Clairborne Progress. 2016.
  21. ^ "What I learned at the EF Student Leaders Summit". Wicked Local Somerville. April 4, 2014.

Reply quotebox with inserted reviewer decisions and feedback 14-MAR-2018

Below you will see where text from your request has been quoted and individual advisory messages – either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposals – have been inserted underneath each major proposal. Please see the Notes section at the bottom of the quotebox for additional information about each request. Spintendo      15:06, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In 2014, EF released a suite of free online standardized English tests called the EF Standard English Test (EF SET).
checkmark Already done[a]
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EF Learning Labs publishes the annual EF English Proficiency Index, a ranking of English language skills by country based on EF SET test results. The EF EPI claims to show a link between a country’s adult English proficiency and its economic competitiveness.
no Not done[b]
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EF researchers have collaborated with Cambridge University, Harvard Graduate School of Education, and several other higher education institutions to research second language acquisition processes.
no Not done[c]
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The company has a history of affiliation with international sporting events. EF is the official supplier of language training services to the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games and held the same position for the 2018 PyeongChang Olympic Games[10], the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio[11], the 2014 Olympic Games in Sochi[12], the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, and the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul. [13][14]The 3-time Olympian DeeDee Trotter is the EF Olympics brand ambassador.[15]The yacht EF Language, sponsored by the company, won the 1997-1998 Whitbread Round the World Race with the yacht EF Education also competing the same year.[16] In 2017, EF became one of the primary sponsors of the professional cycling team EF Education First Drapac.
Clarification needed[d]
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After the April 2015 Nepal earthquake, EF committed to rebuild Jalapa Devi Higher Secondary School using Japanese quake-resistant construction methods. The school opened to students in early 2018. Every year, EF sponsors students to attend its annual student leader's summit and offers a number of scholarships for international student travel.
no Not done[e]
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Notes

  1. ^ This information is already in the article.
  2. ^ These findings represent original research which is not allowed on Wikipedia, per WP:NOR.
  3. ^ According to the references provided, these partnerships came about through the financial investments of EF (i.e., Funding Sources: EF Education First Grant (2013 - 2016) to Principal Investigator, Paola Uccelli). If these constitute normal everyday relationships akin to a run-of-the-mill business deal with a vendor, then this partnership is considered routine and not necessary to be mentioned, per WP:MILL.
  4. ^ The specific nature of these affiliations needs to be delineated. Specifically what form did they take and what outcomes did they entail. Please advise.
  5. ^ The noble efforts put forward by EF in these areas are indeed inspiring, but describing them to the wider public is not the purpose of Wikipedia, per WP:NOBLECAUSE.


Thank you for having a look at this. On d above, is something like the text below more appropriate?

Sponsorships

The company has a history of affiliation with international sporting events. EF is the official supplier of language training services to the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games[1] and held the same position for the 2018 PyeongChang Olympic Games[2], the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio[3], the 2014 Olympic Games in Sochi[4], the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, and the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul. These partnerships involved EF providing language testing for volunteer candidates; online and in-person language training for athletes, staff, and volunteers; and Olympics-themed English learning materials for local schools.[5][6]The yacht EF Language, sponsored by the company, won the 1997-1998 Whitbread Round the World Race with the yacht EF Education also competing the same year.[7] In 2017, EF became the title sponsor of the professional cycling team EF Education First Drapac, renaming the team and releasing new uniforms with the EF logo prominently featured. The company became involved when another potential sponsor backed out, leaving the team $7million short.[8][9]

Reply quotebox with inserted reviewer decisions and feedback 16-MAR-2018

Below you will see where text from your request has been quoted and individual advisory messages – either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposals – have been inserted underneath each major proposal. Please see the Notes section at the bottom of the quotebox for additional information about each request. Spintendo      11:35, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The company has a history of affiliation with international sporting events. EF is the official supplier of language training services to the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games and held the same position for the 2018 PyeongChang Olympic Games, the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio[3], the 2014 Olympic Games in Sochi, the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing, and the 1988 Olympic Games in Seoul. These partnerships involved EF providing language testing for volunteer candidates; online and in-person language training for athletes, staff, and volunteers; and Olympics-themed English learning materials for local schools.
no Not done[a]
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The yacht EF Language, sponsored by the company, won the 1997-1998 Whitbread Round the World Race with the yacht EF Education also competing the same year.
exclamation mark  Another article is more appropriate for placement[b]
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In 2017, EF became the title sponsor of the professional cycling team EF Education First Drapac, renaming the team and releasing new uniforms with the EF logo prominently featured. The company became involved when another potential sponsor backed out, leaving the team $7million short.
Clarification needed[c]
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Notes

  1. ^ The heading of this section is called Sponsorships. The definition of sponsorship is the aid or support provided by a sponsor, backing or patronage — usually done for free. The first sentence states the relationship is an affiliation with sporting events like the Olympics. But the affiliations described here, of providing language training services, appear to be more similar to run of the mill, contracted-positions where EF is paid to provide services for a client, in this case, the IOC. These and other services provided by EF fall under a different rubric than those listed as sponsorships. To find evidence of sponsorships, third party publications ought to be consulted as sources. Excluded sources for this information would be the EF itself, the IOC, or NOC websites. Publications which cater predominantly to the business community, such as AmericanInno, would also be excluded as a reference. Any third party sources found should describe the actual nature of the sponsorships.
  2. ^ This race, which is now known as the Volvo Ocean Race, is the proper space for this claim to be included.
  3. ^ This claim does not specify what the cycling team did nor which competitions or races they were involved in.

Request edit on 9 June 2023

  • What I think should be changed:

I am requesting that the recently-added "Controversy" section of this article be removed. I am using this channel as a long-time editor of Wikipedia. I do not want my conflict of interest to interfere with determining what is correct in this case.

  • Why it should be changed:

- The section misrepresents the facts. After a lengthy investigation, the school has been found not criminally responsible and the district attorney is not pressing charges. This section misrepresents a very unfortunate event, then goes on to list sensational recent coverage by Italian media seeking out a handful of customers who have unrelated complaints. - The section is disproportionately lengthy compared to the rest of the rest of the page. - The EF Education First page has been subject to vandalism in the past from unhappy customers. This anonymous addition appears to be another instance.

  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

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K8bell (talk) 17:27, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]