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The contents of the 2 May 2014 Odessa clashes page were merged into 2014 Odesa clashes. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

Text and/or other creative content from this version of 2014 Odessa clashes was copied or moved into Draft:2014 Odessa clashes with [651153528 this edit]. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on May 2, 2017 and May 2, 2022.

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heavily biased and incorrect as well as misuse of sources and citations. people were deliberately burnt to their deaths but it's being framed here as a 'both sides clashing' equal fault skirmish? very poor standards by Wikipedia to allow such a contentious event to be depicted like this 82.38.10.33 (talk) 17:28, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pro-Russian activist was the first one to fire a shot, and also pro-Russian activists were the first ones to kill a person that day. It is described using the reliable sources in Russian, Ukrainian and English versions of the page. IMO, these facts already qualify the events as "both sides clashing". --Cannibal Rat (talk) 12:35, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not true. He was falsely blamed. Visual evidence literally confirms this fact cannot be proved and is literally impossible AyazKader (talk) 06:32, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A human. 2A02:3030:80A:EC17:1:0:8431:1770 (talk) 00:23, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article is a poor cover-up of mass murder

Even if someone shot first in the air and there are liars that he was "Pro-Russian", it is meaningless. All the dead were Ukrainians. They had a legitimate political opinion and were murdered by a mob of thugs and war criminals. Of course the false slogan "Russian propaganda" is the answer to every claim. בצלאל א. (talk) 21:54, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok RTbot. 2A02:3030:80A:EC17:1:0:8431:1770 (talk) 00:23, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source? 2A02:3030:815:366A:1:0:664A:231A (talk) 19:05, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's a sentence in the article that is either hard to comprehend, or doesn't make any sense at all.

The sentence I take issue with is: 'According to the original plan agreed by the factions in secret, the demolition of the tents had to take his hands out of gangs of football fans "ultras" after the end of a football match'.

The sentence seems to me to lose the plot between 'take' and 'his'.

MathewMunro (talk) 10:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Football Ultras involvement

Both the hardcore fans of Chornomorets Odesa and FC Metalist Kharkiv put aside their football rivarly and attacked the pro-russia "Anti-Maidan" militants. 2A02:3030:815:366A:1:0:664A:231A (talk) 18:57, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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