User talk:Raconcilio

November 2023

Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Cartography of Palestine, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. MacAddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 12:43, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I did not add original research. The article equates the mapping of the Holy land and the mapping of Palestine which are not the same thing. My edits are editing original research and it needs to be more accurate. Raconcilio (talk) 12:47, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Cartography of Palestine. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. MacAddct1984 ^{(talk | contribs)} 12:51, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies. Here is a reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine#:~:text=8%20External%20links-,Etymological%20considerations,in%20the%205th%20century%20BCE. Raconcilio (talk) 12:55, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing.

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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Cartography of Palestine, you may be blocked from editing. Adakiko (talk) 13:06, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The first citation explicitly states "cartography of the Holy Land". Adakiko (talk) 13:08, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that Wikipedia is not a wp:reliable source. See wp:Circular Adakiko (talk) 13:09, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, there is no reference for these being the same thing. It needs to be removed. Raconcilio (talk) 13:14, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not the same thing to map the Holy land and map Palestine

The Holy Land and Israel are separate maps. Palestian maps have included areas formerly known as Judea and presentely/formerly known as Israel but it is false to imply that it was or has been a country with borders.

The other author will not allow giving background to the name of Palestine which was referring to Israelites.

The opposing author is trying to erase Jewish history here as well as ignoring that these things are separate. Raconcilio (talk) 13:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The sources would suggest otherwise. Adakiko (talk) 13:13, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Adakiko - Politically, it is easy to see that the mapping of these areas is different. There is political mapping of the area for reign of different empires, but also separately mapping the Holy Land, and also Israel. They are not the same thing. It should not be written as being the same. Raconcilio (talk) 13:13, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Cartography of Palestine. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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331dot (talk) 13:13, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

China/Israel

I highly advise you to self revert your edit and handle this issue on the existing article, there isn't enough content for a standalone article on how China draws its maps of Israel. 331dot (talk) 10:09, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Updated. Let me know if it's sufficient. Raconcilio (talk) 11:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Be very aware of the special rules regarding edits about Israel above. 331dot (talk) 10:10, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

CS1 error on Cartography of Israel

Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Cartography of Israel, may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows:

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Notice

Per the notification above, and WP:ARBECR you may not participate in discussions that relate to the Arab Israeli conflict as you did here (canvassing is not permitted by anyone, never mind non EC editors).

Kindly desist. Thank you. Selfstudier (talk) 19:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Palestine (phrase). This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Selfstudier (talk) 19:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notification

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December 2023

To enforce an arbitration decision, you have been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia.

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_signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:14, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Unblock

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Raconcilio (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Please copy my appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard or administrators' noticeboard. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. Raconcilio (talk) 20:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline. Yamla (talk) 10:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

For the last few weeks, I've been tying to disspell propoganda and misinformaiton that is on Wikipedia that's lead to the hate of Jewish people around the world. This does not mean I should be banned especially if I do not have relevant context for other topics. Wikipedia should be a place to gather knowledge,not suppress it and in critical times, exceptions should and can be made. If the board askes that I not post anymore until 30 days then that is fine but please also provide a better way to balance the power of users who knock down misinformation. Twice now I have tried to help clarify that Free Paletine has also meant to create Israel but users prefer to suppress neutral content and have me blocked instead of take cae of wikipedia. If this is the way you want to run wikipedia, it won't survive... Here is the article for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Palestine_(phrase) Raconcilio (talk) 20:30, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There's no meaningful chance this would succeed and it would be a complete waste of time to copy this across. --Yamla (talk) 20:33, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That does not make coherent sense. Please re-write. Raconcilio (talk) 20:48, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your request, as written above, has no chance of resulting in your block being lifted. Copying your request to the appropriate noticeboard, as you've asked, would therefore be a deliberate waste of time. --Yamla (talk) 20:50, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

אלה מילים דחופים, רק בלי קשר למציאות _signed,Rosguill ^talk 20:48, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

December 2023

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Ad Orientem (talk) 20:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Raconcilio (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

For the last few weeks, I've been tying to disspell propoganda and misinformaiton that is on Wikipedia that's lead to the hate of Jewish people around the world. This does not mean I should be banned especially if I do not have relevant context for other topics. Wikipedia should be a place to gather knowledge,not suppress it and in critical times, exceptions should and can be made. If the board askes that I not post anymore until 30 days then that is fine but please also provide a better way to balance the power of users who knock down misinformation. Twice now I have tried to help clarify that Free Paletine has also meant to create Israel but users prefer to suppress neutral content and have me blocked instead of take cae of wikipedia. If this is the way you want to run wikipedia, it won't survive... Here is the article for reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Palestine_(phrase)

Decline reason:

Per below. And remember that any request needs to be reviewed at AE. — Daniel Case (talk) 07:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Raconcilio (talk) 20:49, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This request will get denied because you didn't make it in accordance with the guide to appealing blocks. If you want to help change that article for the better, you'll remove this, read that guide, and make another request that explains how you broke the rules and what you'll do going forward to make sure you remain compliant with policy. If instead you persist in blaming others, arguing about the content, and claiming you've done nothing wrong, it's because you think everything you've done to the Free Palestine (phrase) article has been bad and that the article is better off without your input. You might be right that Wikipedia "won't survive" but until then, a vast majority of internet users trying to find information about the phrase "Free Palestine" will end up here. What you do now will determine whether or not you want to share what you know with those countless readers. City of Silver 00:10, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Raconcilio, earlier today WP:CANVASSED me to vote in the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Free Palestine (phrase) by emailing me and requesting that I vote keep. I can provide a copy of the email if requested. TarnishedPath^talk 04:59, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]