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December 29
NEW NOMINATIONS
Category:Fictional rope fighters
- Propose merging Category:Fictional rope fighters to Category:Fictional melee weapons practitioners
- Propose merging Category:Fictional chain fighters to Category:Fictional melee weapons practitioners
- Nominator's rationale: There's no real life category equivalent and this seems like something the (now-banned) creator made up. I think we can agree that the characters are technically melee weapon users, but this is an arbitrary categorization. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:27, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 12:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Recurring sporting events established in 1862
- Procedural oppose, there is no point in randomly picking one year in the middle of the tree of Category:Recurring sporting events by year of establishment. I would be open to a batch nomination of all years until 1900, or, if only, until 1800. Also it should be merging to a century or decade instead of deletion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, I think its best to merge by decade. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:49, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Recurring sporting events established in the 1860s and Category:Recurring events established in 1862, per Omnis Scientia. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:15, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Merge for Now to Category:Recurring sporting events established in the 1860s and Category:Recurring events established in 1862. No objection to recreation later if enough articles materialize. - RevelationDirect (talk) 05:11, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- Support merger provided this is intended to be a sample nom to be followed by noms for all cases where there are less than 5 items, with the decade as target; also some wider annual category. Oppose if this is merely a single nom for a random year. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:31, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- oppose That is not a reason to delete a category. Dimadick (talk) 01:47, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 12:17, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Alumni by university or college in the United Kingdom
Alumnis by Northern Ireland colleges and universities
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- Nominator's rationale: "Alumni" comes at the end. Only U.K. univeristy and colleges alumni category are named as such. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:19, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Anne-Marie (2)
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- Propose renaming Category:Anne-Marie (singer) albums to Category:Anne-Marie albums
- Propose renaming Category:Anne-Marie (singer) songs to Category:Anne-Marie songs
- Option B
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- Propose renaming Category:Songs written by Anne-Marie to Category:Songs written by Anne-Marie (singer)
- Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_10#Category:Songs_written_by_Anne-Marie_(singer), where only one of 3 interlinked categories was nominated. This is not eligible for Speedy because Anne-Marie (disambiguation) lists several other people, including other singers. If there is no consensus for Option A then Option B would be required, i.e. reverting the previous CFD. Pinging previous CFD participants Ayakanaa, Richhoncho, Marcocapelle, LaundryPizza03. – Fayenatic London 10:38, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Jewish American male comedians
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OC. They are already gendered in nationality. None of the other Category:Jewish comedians by nationality are divided as such. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:55, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:American inventors
- Propose merging Category:African-American inventors to Category:American inventors
- Propose merging Category:Alaska Native inventors and scientists to Category:American inventors
- Nominator's rationale: Per previous Cfd on "Jewish American inventors" - WP:EGRS. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Nigerian families of Bini ancestry
- Propose merging Category:Nigerian families of Bini ancestry to Category:Nigerian families
- Nominator's rationale: unhelpful for navigation to only have one category of bini ancestry Mason (talk) 05:15, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Just delete, the subcategory is already in Category:Nigerian royal families. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per Marco Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:49, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nominator. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:14, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:1780s in Germany
- Propose merging Category:1780s in Germany to Category:1780s in the Holy Roman Empire
- Nominator's rationale: Again with the anachronistic "[Specific Time Period] in [Country That Didn't Exist in That Time Period]" categories Bearcat (talk) 04:57, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:12, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom's valid rationale. --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:15, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Dutch sports national champions
- No, it is different. The nominated category is for national champions, the target is for world champions by nationality. Better withdraw this discussion and nominate Category:Sports champions of the Netherlands with all of its siblings together, as a redundant category layer. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:18, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose as distinct categories. Arguably the national champion categories can form a subcategory of the sports champions ones. I don't think either layer is redundant. I think the "of X" wording isn't the best though. If champions for representing the country is intended, the "for X" would be better. If these are simply champions of a given nationality, then the demonym can be used, same as Category:German Nobel laureates. Any thoughts @Smasongarrison:? SFB 12:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Category:Mythological vertebrates
- Propose merging Category:Mythological vertebrates to Category:Mythological animals
- Propose merging Category:Mythological invertebrates to Category:Mythological animals
- Propose merging Category:Legendary vertebrates to Category:Legendary animals
- Propose merging Category:Legendary invertebrates to Category:Legendary animals
- Propose merging Category:Vertebrate animal deities to Category:Animal deities
- Propose merging Category:Invertebrate animal deities to Category:Animal deities
- Nominator's rationale: Truth be told, I'm dubious about the "vertebrate" parent categories too, but this one is particularly problematic, given that it conflates scientific terminology with mythological/legendary creatures. It simply doesn't matter for Wikipedians' purposes whether a mythological being is a vertebrate or not, this is a distinction that is used in biology. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 01:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)