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Recent German Science Fiction Film addition in History

I have removed the recent addition of the science fiction film by @Emmett SP: detailed below. Currently this article does not include any science fiction (ie movies or stories) and I do not believe it is relevant to this article. Would suggest it is more relevant to either Science fiction#Film, Science fiction film or Lists of science fiction films. Seeking other Editors comments. Ilenart626 (talk) 20:42, 25 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"In 1929, Fritz Lang's German science fiction film Woman in the Moon was released. It showcased the use of a multi-stage rocket, and also pioneered the concept of a rocket launch pad (a rocket standing upright against a tall building before launch having been slowly rolled into place) and the rocket-launch countdown clock.^[1]^[2] The Guardian film critic Stephen Armstrong states Lang "created the rocket industry".^[1] Lang was inspired by the 1923 book The Rocket into Interplanetary Space by Hermann Oberth, who became the film’s scientific adviser and later an important figure in the team that developed the V2-rocket.^[3] The film was thought to be so realistic that it was banned by the Nazis when they came to power for fear it would reveal secrets about the V-2 rockets."^[4]

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^ ^a ^b "The Directors (Fritz Lang)". Sky Arts. Season 1, episode 6. 2018
^ Weide, Robert (Summer 2012). "The Outer Limits". DGA Quarterly. Los Angeles, California: Directors Guild of America, Inc.: 64–71. A gallery of behind-the-scenes shots of movies featuring space travel or aliens. Page 68, photo caption: "Directed by Fritz Lang (third from right), the silent film "Woman in the Moon" (1929) is considered one of the first serious science fiction films and invented the countdown before the launch of a rocket. Many of the basics of space travel were presented to a mass audience for the first time."
^ "Woman in the Moon – Philip French on Fritz Lang's handsomely restored moon-mission yarn". The Guardian. Retrieved 24 July 2022.
^ "Watch the Silent Film that Brought Rocket Science to the Masses". Vice. Retrieved 24 July 2022.

Improvements

@JustinTime55: hi there, I'm sorry for reverting your changes. They got caught up in a revert I was trying to make to the edit before yours. I'll explain myself briefly.

"Vehicle that can accelerate without air" is too broad a short description, hence why I reverted this. My bicycle can accelerate without air. The LRV could accelerate without air. Neither of these are rockets. The previous shortdesc, "Missile or vehicle which flies using thrust from a reaction gas engine" was pretty much perfect.

The mention of circularity was in response to the edit before yours, which claimed that defining a rocket as a "vehicle powered by a rocket engine" was a "classic case of a circular definition". This is clearly not true; a rocket engine is defined independently of a rocket (vehicle).

Also, if I were being pedantic, I would suggest replacing "vehicle" in the first sentence of your addition with "vehicle or projectile" or maybe "vehicle or missile", since I'm not sure if a missile is considered a vehicle. But life is too short to care about stuff like this.

Sorry for any confusion. I'll now be reverting the shortdesc (and that only, this time).

Happy editing — Jumbo T (talk) 22:37, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, understood that you made a mistake. I disagree that the short description should include "missile" so I simplified it. I Google-searched for external definitions of "rocket" and the two authoritative sources, NASA and Encyclopedia Britannica, define rocket as a vehicle, or shorthand for the rocket engine. "Vehicle" includes rocket-propelled missiles. "Missile" is defined as an object or weapon thrown to hit a target, and includes stones, bullets, and artillery shells as well as rockets. JustinTime55 (talk) 00:52, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2023

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49.163.220.26 (talk) 02:05, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

THe challenger exploded because of the partial of the space scraft and also of this. almost everyone thought that the space shuttle history was over and NASA had to rebuild the space shuttle to continue. and they changed the thing in the rocket

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 02:10, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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change "Rockets work more efficiently in a vacuum and incur a loss of thrust due to the opposing pressure of the atmosphere."

to "Rockets work more efficiently in a vacuum without incurring a loss of thrust due to the opposing pressure of the atmosphere."

to "Rockets lose thrust due to atmospheric friction and thus work more efficient in a vacuum." ^[1] Bwikizee (talk) 03:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The wording is a bit clunky, how does this sound.

Rockets lose thrust due to atmospheric friction resulting in more efficient work in a vacuum.

Thanks Geardona (talk to me?) 15:39, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gas Core Light Bulb?

I love nuclear thermal rockets as much as the next guy, but I don't think a picture of a uranium gas core rocket (regrettably still in the theoretical domain) is representative for the 'rocket propellant' section. 2A0C:5BC0:40:1A9E:B25C:DAFF:FE32:7DF1 (talk) 13:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ https://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/rocket/TRCRocket/rocket_principles.html

[“Lang-1] "The Directors (Fritz Lang)". Sky Arts. Season 1, episode 6. 2018

[2] Weide, Robert (Summer 2012). "The Outer Limits". DGA Quarterly. Los Angeles, California: Directors Guild of America, Inc.: 64–71. A gallery of behind-the-scenes shots of movies featuring space travel or aliens. Page 68, photo caption: "Directed by Fritz Lang (third from right), the silent film "Woman in the Moon" (1929) is considered one of the first serious science fiction films and invented the countdown before the launch of a rocket. Many of the basics of space travel were presented to a mass audience for the first time."

[3] "Woman in the Moon – Philip French on Fritz Lang's handsomely restored moon-mission yarn". The Guardian. Retrieved 24 July 2022.

[4] "Watch the Silent Film that Brought Rocket Science to the Masses". Vice. Retrieved 24 July 2022.

[5] ttps://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/rocket/TRCRocket/rocket_principles.html

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