Talk:Scrubs (clothing)

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This sentence is very odd for this forum, but is an interesting note to have in the article, so I decided to put it here for someone to work into more Wiki-appropriate form: [It is family history that the man who started this trend is my great-uncle, Lewis Chandler Foster, MD, Professor of Medicine at Yale University Hospital, New Haven CT. This comes from his brother, my grandfather, but as both men died in 1969 it is not possible to verify this tradition. MHH]

Moving this page?

A disambiguation page exists for the word Scrub, which lists this page, as well as Scrubs (TV series). I would suggest the Wikipedia page for 'Scrubs' should become a redirect to Scrub, and that the information on this page be moved to Scrubs (clothing). I would like some comments from users of this page before doing this, if possible. --Gpollock 00:15, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support, sounds like a great idea. johnSLADE (talk) 21:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's done. --Gpollock 03:22, 21 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Notes for additions

Some notes I've made: Is scrubs a US only word? Scrubs vs surgical gowns. Materials used - reasons for choice - waterproof, punctureproof, disposable. Special protective materials - e.g. infective cases (HBV, HIV, Congo fever). Washing and sterilisation. --Seejyb 19:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scrubs isn't a US only word, but I feel that the article is very US-Centric - in my experience it's only in America that 'most hospital staff wear scrubs'. Randomlyred 00:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The term 'scrubs' is used in Australia. Identical scrubs are worn by all staff in some healthcare workplaces in Australia eg. theatre and emergency. Tradimus (talk) 04:23, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Out of place?

Reading through the article, the sentence detailing the "origin" of the word seal blue, seems out of place and not needed. --Keylay31 00:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Theatre Blues

"In the United Kingdom, scrubs are sometimes known as Theatre Blues." I believe this is in ref to Surgical theatre where scrubs would be worn. Could a UK editor please provide source(s)? --Naaman Brown (talk) 12:29, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is this both appropriately sourced and relevant?

"Scrubs are designed to be simple (with minimal places for contaminants to hide), easy to launder, and cheap to replace if damaged." Looking at it, with the two unusually placed pockets, it's actually more complex than most shirts I've ever seen. There are also no less places for "contaminants" to "hide", nor do I see any sourced information regarding being easier to launder than typical clothes or cheaper to replace. 97.84.218.68 (talk) 02:12, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 November 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Colin M (talk) 22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Scrubs (clothing) → Scrubs – An instance of a WP:PLURALPT. It is also primary over the TV series, since the series is obviously named after the article of clothing, which its characters commonly wear. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 18:49, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. I was inclined to support this one, but checking pageviews shows Scrubs (TV series) gets a whopping 90% of the pageviews for things called "Scrubs", which is far, far more than I expected. Considering we have articles about media at titles like Friends and Peanuts, I don't think it's that unreasonable to suggest that the vast majority of people searching "Scrubs" aren't looking for or expecting the clothes article (so I guess WP:ASTONISH applies). Nohomersryan (talk) 22:29, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Normally pageviews are the determinant of a primary topic, but this reasoning leads to some faulty conclusions. For example, if "Glasses" was a popular TV series about people who wore glasses - insanely popular in fact - would it then compete with Glasses as a primary topic? I'd assume not, but that's the conclusion you're arriving at here. Ultimately, the primary topic is the original term and the one with longterm significance.
I don't oppose linking the TV series directly in a hatnote though, to prevent people from having to navigate through the disambiguation page for it._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:48, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, Friends and Peanuts are both plural primary topics and therefore would not have to compete in importance with "Friend" or "Peanut", so they are not great comparisons to make._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 00:56, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
PLURALAPT notes that "the normal situation is that a plural redirects to its singular", so there's not entirely no competition. (For the most part I do agree with you, but Parachutes (Coldplay album), Bookends (album), Pixies (band), etc. wouldn't have been moved if everyone did.) My greater point is that while I can cut pageviews some slack if a topic is the original use, I can't really justify making a page that only gets 10% of views the primary topic. Since the TV series is of such massive reader interest, making the clothing the primary topic strikes me a bit too much like Wikipedia:DICDEF. Also, since it's a play on both the clothing and Scrubs (occupation), it's not entirely 100% derivative in the first place. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:20, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Scrubs (occupation) is just slang and not an article though, so it's not really competing with that for primary topic. In any case, it wouldn't be any different than having a disambiguation there if the hatnote also linked to the TV show, so regardless it would still take 2 steps for someone to reach the TV show. Those are the two major things being disambiguated, so why not put Scrubs at primary?_{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 02:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per pageviews. No reason to impose a primary. --Gonnym (talk) 23:54, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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"History of surgical attire" Relevance of parenthesised sentence

The surgeon wore his own clothes, with perhaps a butcher's apron to protect his clothing from blood stains,[4] and he operated bare-handed with non-sterile instruments and supplies. (Gut and silk sutures were sold as open strands with reusable hand-threaded needles; packing gauze was made of sweepings from the floors of cotton mills.) In contrast to today's concept of surgery as a profession that emphasizes cleanliness and conscientiousness, up to the early 20th century the mark of a busy and successful surgeon was the profusion of blood and fluids on his clothes.

The sentence in the middle seems to have no source or reason to be in the article, as it is irrelevant to the subject. Homeless Canadian (talk) 07:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]