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As of 14:19, 20 September 2022, the first paragraph of Alfred Russel Wallace#Exploration and study of the natural world described the Amazon exploration and return, the second went on:

After his return to Britain, Wallace spent 18 months in London living on the insurance payment for his lost collection and selling a few specimens that had been shipped home. He then started his exploration of the Rio Negro up to the Indian town of Jativa in the Orinoco River basin, and as far west as Micúru (Mitú) on the Vaupés River. He never forgot the grandeur of the virgin forest, the variety and beauty of the butterflies and birds, or his first encounter with Indians in the Vaupés River area. During this period, despite having lost almost all the notes from his South American expedition, he wrote six academic papers (including "On the Monkeys of the Amazon") and two books, Palm Trees of the Amazon and Their Uses and Travels on the Amazon.[cite: Wilson 2000, p. 45]

The second and third sentences clearly relate to the Amazon, thongh they link to Río Negro (Argentina) and Jativa in Spain, so I've deleted them. It may be possible to move the description to the Amazon paragraph, but I don't have access to that source. . . dave souza, talk 09:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Russel Wallace

I have several issues with this otherwise impressive survey of Wallace: 1. Early on he's referred to as "'father of biogeography'", but actually this should be 'historical biogeography' or 'evolutionary biogeography', as some have reasoned that the 'fathers' of ecological biogeography should be considered Alexander von Humboldt, or the father-and-son Candolles. 2. "one of the first...life on Mars" would be more accurately stated "one of the first to publish a serious scientific appraisal of the conditions for life on the surface of Mars." 3. Delete ", the normal leaving age for a pupil not going on to university." : This is not so, according to James Williams, an expert in the history of British education (which Van Wyhe is not), per https://works.bepress.com/charles_smith/77/ . 4. quotation ending "...perhaps superior to it" --Source is Vol.1 of Wallace's autobiography (1905) My Life, p. 256. 5. "reached Sarawak in October 1855" --No, the date was Oct. 1854! 6. "early 1856 wet season..." --No, the year was 1855! 7. "he sent an article outlining..." --No, he sent a ms. draft, with no request to publish. 8. "Shipping schedules...letter to Lyell." No, absolutely not. Delete this sentence: another letter Wallace sent out at the same is well known to have reached Bates's brother Frederick a few weeks before the Lyell letter. Somebody has misread this, or the sources. 9. "Kottler showed that Wallace..." Add mention that a 1900 letter from Wallace published in 1977 ends this discussion; see: http://people.wku.edu/charles.smith/wallace/S712AM.htm 10. "...evolution was not teleological (purpose-driven)..." The word 'teleological' here is not descriptive of Wallace's views, as he *never* believed in first-causes-based thinking--instead, he followed a doctrine of final causes (which he also applied to his thoughts anticipating the anthropic principle). The use of the word 'teleology' here is a serious misrepresentation of his views!!! Shermer is misguided on this. 11. "But Wallace believed that evolution had a purpose ("teleology")" Yes, he did--but delete 'teleology' here, as Wallace never believed in first-causes understandings. Again, it was about final causes, and this is an *important* distinction! 12. The section on Spiritualism ignores the important point that he believed the 'Spirit Realm' represented a non-physically extended part of the natural world. Your coverage of the subject ignores the dozen or more times I have brought this out in published works over a thirty year period, including its implications for how spiritualism 'completed' his model of evolution by explaining the ongoing evolution of consciousness. This section is a caricature; it speaks only of what many people have said about Wallace, as opposed to what he himself thought about the matter. 13. The section on anti-vaccination does not make it clear enough that Wallace and others viewed the legislation of then on vaccination as infringing on civil liberties, to the extent that the fees involved for registering amounted a sizable percent of the average working-man's annual salary. 14. 'Writings' section: The 2002 summary was based entirely on *my* work, which I have since extended. The "747 shorter pieces" tally is now at "more than 1100", as documented at my 'Alfred Russel Wallace Page' site. --Note: I consider myself (as do the others who work on Wallace) a top authority on him, especially his philosophy and bibliography; I was just awarded a silver medal for this work by the Alfred Russel Wallace Memorial Fund. 74.130.242.137 (talk) 23:21, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Russel Wallace

Wallace was Welsh not English. He was born in Monmouthshire Bodgadfa (talk) 03:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He was born to Anglo-Scottish parents, considered himself English and everyone in his lifetime, including his Welsh friends, considered him to be English.--SinoDevonian (talk) 20:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]