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RM, Generation Y → Millennial Generation, No consensus, 4 May 2007 to 3 August 2008, Talk:Millennials/Archive_3#Vote: Change "Generation Y" to "Millenial Generation"?
RM, Generation Y → Millennials, Moved, 23 October 2013, Talk:Millennials/Archive_9#Requested_move
RM, Millennials → Millennial Generation, No consensus, 6 November 2013, Talk:Millennials/Archive_8#Requested_move_2

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End and start dates are fuzzy at best for Gen X and Millenials generations !

I think all who edit in Wikipedia We should do our best to not just main line A Perceived popular opinion, We have a obligation to share the facts as they are really are However uncomfortable that may be for some. Pew Research states in 2014 generational Boundary explanations " they are murky and fuzzy that they have no real reason for their dates, ending For X and beginning for Millenials ! The End dates for X and Beginning dates Millenials change and have changed depending on the research group or colleague organization that us defines Definitions. Therefore, we should not set a hard, fast steak for either one. Because that would be of misleading to everybody that takes us as a reliable source For information…… Deathlands82 (talk) 13:12, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is it not clear from the lead that the boundaries are fuzzy? Betty Logan (talk) 13:22, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The dates that you're talking about. Pew research are the ones that set those dates and they say that they're fuzzy In fact, i've actually put the links to this stuff that were contradictory to what was being posted And they just remove them lol Deathlands82 (talk) 11:38, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Millenials are parents of younger Gen Z

Florian ! What are you talking about? There's definitely links also if you go to the generation z page . Pthere's a link literally Attach to the baby boomer 45 At the end of the paragraphs That younger boomers are parents of GenZ Was funny as when you click on it It also says that millennials Younger generation z I'm just not sure what While we can't put out all Information the way it's supposed to be Instead of cherry picking ! Deathlands82 (talk) 11:37, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changing a sentence in the lead

In the lead, currently it says "In turn millennials are often the parents of Generation Alpha." referencingt cite 3. However, the source does not say this, it is inverted; in the source it says (about gen alpha) "The majority of their parents? Millennials." - this is the logical opposite of what is in the article, saying that millenials/geny are "often" the parents of gen alhpa. Early millenials have plenty of kids that are gen z, and absent statistical citations showing that there are more gen alpha than gen z born to millenials (at this time), the current statement is factually unsupported. Instead of being bold, I bring it up here, because of the semi-protected state of the article, for discussion, as a proposed edit, removing the quoted sentence in the first line of this discussion topic. The inverse sentence (from the cited source) would be appropriate on the gen alpha page, not here. Rilmallion (talk) 18:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't object to your proposal. The semi-protected state is mostly due to the conflict over the defining dates and associated wording, which is now subject to a consensus. The edit you are proposing will not impact on that. Betty Logan (talk) 19:57, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With noone else having replied in 24 hours, I'll choose to "be bold" then Rilmallion (talk) 19:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reopening this question, as the change was reverted with a comment that I should have found a better source (I may be in the wrong here, but I am of the interpretation that the stated source should reflect what it supports, not that other wikipedians have the responsibility to find sources for unsupported statements).

The new source, in my reading, still does not support the statement "In turn millenials are often the parents of Generation Alpha", it has the same problem the previous source had; that it states that Gen Alphas are children of millenials - not that millenials mostly have Gen Alpha children (which the quoted, and suggested deleted statement says). This again means it is relevant for the Generation Alpha page, but not for the Millenial / Gen Y page. The article also has a US only perspective on numbers and trends (which could be interesting, though probably mostly on Gen Alpha, under a"In the US" heading, but not in the page lead).

@Dilbaggg: Could you weigh in here, so we can reach a consensus? Rilmallion (talk) 19:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect WP:BURDEN applies here. Betty Logan (talk) 04:01, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Often called unlucky? Then you should two sources right?

Unlucky just sounds like somebody who didn't want to bother doing research into how this happened. "If only there were some science that studied currency or wealth or societies that could shed light on why millenials rolled snake eyes". What a joke that is. 2604:3D09:D78:1000:7A9F:15B2:D016:1D91 (talk) 05:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How millenials are considered less lucky than people who lived through two world wars, spanisfh flu and the great depression is beyond me.

Im guessing that source has the famous "graph go down" type of "evidence" to back that up. 46.7.28.113 (talk) 00:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is this page written by hateful boomers looking for a scapegoat?

Seriously?! "The me generation" "Me me me". Did you just look for the most pathetic hateful pandering you could find? 2604:3D09:D78:1000:7A9F:15B2:D016:1D91 (talk) 05:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article just assumes that changes to tourism must be because of millenials.

it just completely ignores that previous generations are still the majority of vacationers, and that their decisions are driven by economics - mostly a cheap peso. 2604:3D09:D78:1000:7A9F:15B2:D016:1D91 (talk) 05:51, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Key to China's "economic miracle" was its one-child policy?, which curbed population growth and enabled the economy to industrialize rapidly.

Minimum wages and free trade in America had no relation at all? It was ENTIRELY because china limited their population to one kid, for thirty years? 2604:3D09:D78:1000:7A9F:15B2:D016:1D91 (talk) 05:55, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]