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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leonard Mbotela

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Doesn't meet WP:NJOURNALIST / WP:ANYBIO. BoraVoro (talk) 07:06, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Seems to pass notability, sources 6 and 11 are the best. I also found this [1] and [2]. The last one I posted seems to suggest political notability as well. Oaktree b (talk) 13:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Procedural keep per meeting at least some credible and keep...able input. There can be sources since the article somewhat meets inclusion by importance and source by few reliable source per WP:RS. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 09:44, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing lots of keep opinions from this editor on this day, and regrettably, most of them do not make sense. "Procedural keep per meeting at least some credible and keep...able input" is close to nonsense. "Somewhat meets inclusion by importance and source by few reliable source" is not a helpful or useful comment. Please state which sources are reliable and contribute towards notability. Geschichte (talk) 21:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Geschichte, it seems I used mobile that caused much of the typographical error. Also the time shows I was in a sleep carried mode (ready to sleep for the night), that I may have edited wrongly (but with love not with prejudice). I didn't see this as early as because I wasn't pinged. Please this type of comment should be partly, when necessary addressed to the editors talk page and if likely, only on that particular case. If I had made mistake, advise me on my TP and not leave a message without diff as you did. Now j understand your message on my TP. The diff I requested wasn't sent by you and it was difficult to check if there was any error with my vote in AFDs. Thanks though and will value the spirit of rechecking. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 20:26, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting after reading Geschichte's comment.
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Relisting comment: Final relist. I don't think a diff is required when an editor is quoting from a message right above theirs. Sorry if it was embarrassing but some comments in AFDs just don't make any sense.
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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 00:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

East African School of Media Studies

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No refs on the page for many years. Not seeing sources to WP:V basic details, whether it is a degree awarding institution etc. Possibly sources exist that I'm not seeing but currently per WP:V claims can be removed. JMWt (talk) 08:37, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 21:17, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hannah Ryder

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Very questionable WP:SUSTAINED notability Amigao (talk) 01:07, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Head of a UN Agency might be notable, but sourcing is about the initiatives of this agency, not about this person. I don't find much else we'd use for RS either. Oaktree b (talk) 01:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the subject worked at a UN Agency as head policy and partnerships. She was pivotal to the Initiative which is why I used as source Gold Junior (talk) 11:55, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete present version, which definitely does not comply with NPOV policy. "As the chief executive of Development Reimagined, Ryders's Afro-centric posturing is implicit in her reports" - for goodness' sake (and since when is her surname "Ryders"?) Deb (talk) 08:01, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hannah is very adamant on Africans developing Africa with win-win partnerships with other blocs. I should have put it this way to underscore this fact Gold Junior (talk) 12:04, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying that it was you who wrote that sentence? Deb (talk) 12:36, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have deleted that sentence, but added other coverage of Ryder. And, to be clear, the typo in her last name was my fault. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:47, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, though I have edited the article a bit. She is cited in multiple reliable sources in conversations about Africa-China relations, and I have added some of this information to the article. The best coverage of her is here [3], [4],[5]. DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:50, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for those. The main problem, as far as I'm concerned, is the undeclared conflict of interest and the original promotional intent. If we keep it, we'll need to ensure it complies with NPOV. Deb (talk) 13:58, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, though to be clear I have no COI on this article. DaffodilOcean (talk) 14:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Keep" I must state that for me I have no COI regarding this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gold Junior (talk • contribs) 15:56, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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*: <~~/"keep">~~ this article has been edited to comply to NPOV since it's nomination allied by a declaration of COI from editors in the View AfD the page in its current existence complies with NPOV User:Gold Junior Talk 09:11, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

the Wikipedia:Deletion policy Number 7 states article can be deleted of it has no reliable sources. this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hannah Ryder was edited by User:DaffodilOcean adding multiple reliable sources with encyclopedic knowledge highlighting the article notability across the spectrum of Africa-China economic trade. User:Gold Junior Talk 02:30, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Further opinions from as-yet uninvolved editors regarding the quality of sourcing available would be beneficial.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, _signed,Rosguill ^talk 15:33, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, she's mentioned in a broad range of reliable sources, many cited in the article including the BBC, The Guardian, Reuters, The New York Times, Bloomberg, and The Washington Post. The mentions are usually brief, but these three secondary sources at least offer brief bios to base an article:[6][7][8] Also, the article was almost entirely rewritten after its nomination. The writing has issues, but the subject seems notable. Rjjⁱⁱⁱ (talk) 06:17, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kitulu Day Secondary School

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Non-notable institution and un-sourced article, a search returns nothing. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. Allan Nonymous (talk) 14:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. No valid argument was brought up by the clearly canvassed voters. Owen× ☎ 05:02, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RefugePoint

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Sourcing is largely not independent and the remaining sourcing fails to provide significant coverage. Fails WP:NORG and WP:GNG. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Key information about the organization, including its mission statement and how many people it has reached have changed. Abfdesigns (talk) 20:19, 8 May 2024 (UTC) — abfdesigns (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

"It has a mission statement" is not relevant. Almost every organization has a mission statement. DS (talk) 04:35, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The mission statement for this organization was recently updated and the new changes reflect this. Editor has updated this wiki to be less promotional/more neutral, as well as added multiple external sources. Alipapp7 (talk) 17:37, 13 May 2024 (UTC) — Alipapp7 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Delete. I opened many of the refs and none supported notability. They were trivial mentions, routine coverage or tangential. This is a small organisation and not suitable for inclusion. Desertarun (talk) 13:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Desertarun, thanks for your feedback. I genuinely want to improve this page and provide accurate and helpful information. I am not sure what the standard for what constitutes a small vs large organization, but I noticed that many organizations that would be considered "peer" organizations to RefugePoint also have pages, such as HIAS, Women's Refugee Commission, Church World Service, and the International Refugee Assistance Project (IRAP). I see that IRAP's page is flagged as a "stub" and has this note from Wikipedia: "This article about a philanthropic or charitable organization in the United States is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." The page about RefugePoint is an article about a charitable organization, and the edits I suggested were an attempt to help Wikipedia to expand information about the organization and to update outdated information. If there are specific action steps that can be suggested to improve this page and avoid deletion, please advise. Thank you.Abfdesigns (talk) 15:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You've given no valid arguments for keeping this. You need to read our notability policies, particularly WP:NORG. Further, your arguments amount to whataboutism, which is not an arguemnt that should be used here. The specifics you need to understand is that the sources need to fulfill WP:SIRS; if there are not three sources that all meet SIRS, then the subject is not notable, and therefore does not merit an article. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:11, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oliver Kizito

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Poorly sourced rugby BLP. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT as I am unable to find anything more than trivial mentions. JTtheOG (talk) 03:21, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep There's quite a lot of coverage here, in this brief profile, this, this, this and this. Whether when combined it's enough to reach WP:GNG I'm not sure, but with what we have and what is likely available offline I think it's worth a weak keep, although I'd suggest a redirect to Kenya international players if a list did exist. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:16, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete : Nice try, but lacks reliable references. Two of the references on the page are dead, and those who are live barely qualify as substantial. Of the sources provided by User:Rugbyfan22, the last one could contribute towards notability, but we’d need a few more, and in different sources for this one to pass. Would support redirect to a Kenya International Players list, if someone creates one. ANairobian (talk) 19:48, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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