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On 5 June 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Wu'erkaixi to Wu'er Kaixi. The result of the discussion was moved.

Chai Ling

The remarks about Chai Ling are unnecessary and clearly out of place in an Encyclopedia. Conflicts between competing leaders of the Tian'anmen movement should no be imported into Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.162.123.236 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 21 May 2007

Agree with OP, but by 2007 we should realize Wiki's structure makes that wish utopian. Wikipedia articles should be understood as brochures prepared by the most interested party. Read that way, some facts and dates may at least be gleaned from them. Profhum 02:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? Why can't conflicts between competing leaders of the Tian'anmen movement be not be imported into Wikipedia unless wikipedia has an agenda to hide info that it doesn't want public to know. Wikipedia shouldn't take sides on politics. Can you please tell us what his remarks about Chai Ling were? So to let the editors actually discuss it and then properly decide whether it's significant to this article.

49.195.78.89 (talk) 15:22, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Name

I think he should be known under his Uyghur name, as is the case with Chinese nationals from ethnic minorities (i.e. Radi, Ismail Amat etc.). Colipon+(T) 04:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He writes his name as Wu'er Kaixi, at least in English publications, e.g. Wall Street Journal. L ^talk 04:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But is he actually genetically a Uighur? He looks East Asian and not Turkic. 213.1.15.144 (talk) 02:48, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Turkic people don't have to look the same. Uighur is a culture. People could be marrying someone more East Asian looking and their children are still Uighur. It has nothing to do with genetics. If you are thinking about Turkish people from Turkey, you are clearly mistaken. --82.207.237.182 (talk) 15:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Transcription

NB: The official Latin transcription for Uighur is still yengi yezik̡, not ULY; see Uighur language. —Babelfisch (talk) 01:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know how Wuerkaixi claims Uighur heritage, because he does not look Uighur at all but does appear to look like an East Asian. Uighurs claim to be Turkic. 213.1.15.144 (talk) 02:46, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Again you are mixing up things. Uighurs don't claim to be Turkic, they are Turkic group. And I doubt you've seen many Uighurs. --82.207.237.182 (talk) 15:50, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Brothels claim

I removed an unsourced claim inserted by 219.93.20.154 that Wuerkaixi was photographed visiting brothels. The other material added by this user is also unsourced but doesn't look like potential slander.

Can anyone familiar with Taiwanese or Chinese media say if the brothels claim has ever appeared elsewhere, or is it just a slur by this one contributor? --Saforrest (talk) 14:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've not seen these claims elsewhere, but perhaps I don't read the "right" publications. L ^talk 04:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Wu'er Kaixi

Given that he and major English publications all write his name as Wu'er Kaixi, I propose that his Wikipedia article be moved to such as well. L ^talk 04:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It is no longer a Chinese transcription of the Uyghur, because they treat "Wu'er" as a family name; for example, newspapers refer to "Mr. Wu'er".[1][2][3] Also, I read that Mr. Wu'er converted to Christianity (baptized in 2002 by Zhang Boli; Han Dongfang is another 6/4 exile who converted) and married a Taiwanese.[4] Does anyone know the names of his two sons? I would be interested to see if they kept the name "Wu'er", and if we have witnessed the creation of a new Chinese compound surname. Shrigley (talk) 23:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If he has indeed converted to Christianity then his problem will not be with the PRC but with Islamists and ISIS/ISIL because a Muslim leaving Islam mandates the death penalty under Islam. Putting aside whether he visited brothels, has anyone seen him eat pork (a sure sign that he has left Islam)? 213.1.15.144 (talk) 02:15, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

native Taiwanese woman

It sounds like he married a Taiwanese aboriginal, which doesn't seen to be true. The wording should be changed. --82.207.237.182 (talk) 15:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 June 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (non-admin closure) Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 16:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wu'erkaixi → Wu'er Kaixi – Wu'er Kaixi is the more common spelling in reliable English-language sources, even though the added space is incorrect in Hanyu Pinyin. See Google Ngram results. Wu'er Kaixi and Uerkesh Davlet are both used by organisations he is affiliated with, but the former has more mentions in reliable English-language sources. Yue🌙 02:39, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.