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Incorrect Picture Description

There is a picture described as "A level 5 Bulbasaur involved in a battle with a level 5 Charmander in Pokémon Red." However, if you look carefully at the picture you will notice that there are too many colors invovled for it to be from pokemon red. It looks more like its from Pokemon Yellow.

Nope, it's being played on the Super GameBoy. PsychicKid1 18:34, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Where is Johto

What happended to The Johto League in the Games? YOu can't see it on any map in Pokemon. Is it ever coming back?68.223.251.87 21:06, 7 February 2007 (UTC)Pendo 4

Johto lies just to the west of Kanto (where the first set of games and anime episodes is). I haven't heard of any plans to make any new Pokémon games including Johto. --Brandon Dilbeck 23:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I know that. i mean In Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green You can't even see it. Is it gone?Pendo 4 22:26, 8 February 2007 (UTC)Pendo 4

FireRed and LeafGreen are remakes of the original Red and Blue games. Johto didn't exist when the originals were released, so it is not included in the remakes. --Brandon Dilbeck 22:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

To be more precise, Johto is not visitable in FR/LG which is why it does not appear on the map. If you remember from G/S/C, Kanto was not visible on the map until the player was able to visit it. MelicansMatkin 03:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Wait. Don't you remember that in the map in G/S/C there was a little pathway linking to Kanto that you can see on the map? In Fire/Leaf it looks like there is nothing and that there is a hill looking thing.Also the Elite 4 pass way.Pendo 4 21:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

My god am I getting sick of this. Why does this issue matter? It says that the game graphic in the article was modified to show routes leading to Johto. You can't travel there in FireRed or LeafGreen, and besides, those games are presumed to take place at the same time as the original Red and Blue.—ウルタプ 01:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

As the above comment states, it is about timing. Gold, Silver, and Crystal take place 3 years (iirc) after the original games, and that route was modified sometime before then but after RGBY. As for whether or not we will see Johto again, I don't see why not. It should be noted that Pocket Monsters White Gold and Moon Stone were recently trademarked in Japan, along with Topaz, Tourmaline, and Amethyst. Whether or not the names will be used is beyond me. DanPMK 08:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

"White Gold" sure sounds like a Gold remake, but "Moon Stone" is kind of random. And they trademark all these gems and not Opal/Girasol like everyone expects? o.o;—ウルタプ 14:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

duh, the reason that Jhoto isn't in FR/LG is because it was destroyed in a pre-emptive Soviet nuclear strike ;)Shadoom1 04:50, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

NO! It was Team Rocket! They blew it up! DUH! 169.204.7.156 21:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and it was rebuilt before GSC took place. (cough) "White Gold" sounds kind of weird. "Moon Stone" is something that already exists in the Pokemon games... anyway, I doubt GSC will get a remake - then again, a lot of people want one, and they'll make what sells. I'll just hope for it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.127.53.130 (talk) 21:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC).

Ok. Sorry. I just wanted to knoow what happened. Sorry.Pendo 4 21:51, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Johto remake, it's the only game in which you can travel to another country. I enjoyed G/S/C by far the most and I doubt I'm alone on this. They'll make it if the fans want it I guess.

The only thing I want is one FINAL game, where it's TRULY DIFFICULT to level up Pokemon, and since Aruseus, GOD, is in D/P, that will probably end the series, so with all FOUR GENERATIONS! It needs to be so that you're probably averaging a party of 34~37 by the time you face the elite 4 of Kanto, and the champ has the highest pokemon seen yet at 40, and it's REALLY too much of a bother to level more than 1 or 2 pokemon that high, then you go to Johto, when the first gym has pokemon all at level 43, then end Johto at pokemon at level 60, and continue, and it'll obviously be possible to get a level 100 early on, but the exp will be SO SLOW in comparison to the old games that it wouldn't be worth it to anyone who wants to beat the game. Then Hoenn will have Stephen at the end again, with his Metagross now at level 80, and your party probably around 71~74, maybe lower if you're lazy, and finally you go to Sinnoh and beat them, and face the final elite 4 with the final Champion's party all at level 100. Also, all elite 4 battles will take place at the Indigo Plateau, and the regions will be [Bottom Right-Kanto][Bottom Left-Johto][Top Left-Hoenn][Top Right-Sinnoh], and once you choose to move to the next region, you can still return, but the elite 4 won't let you in until you beat the next region's 8 gyms. Of course, you can choose to wait on the moving to the next region if you wanna beat the elite 4 some more. And, naturally, the reason you can have all elite 4 matches in the indigo plateau is because time will pass! Based on what region you're in and what gym you've beaten, you will be at a certain point in the timeline. So when you face Lance the second time, after beating his dragonair (it wouldn't be a dragonite at lvl 40), you'll be surprised to see him still there but much more powerful, along with the other elite 4 that were still there in the Johto games. But then in Hoenn, there will actually be reasons for the previous elite 4 losing their positions, and so by the time you beat the final final elite 4 champion after Sinnoh the feeling of accomplishment would be, like... AMAZING.

That was a longer rant than usual. Anyway, this setup is the only way I would want a Johto remake. I don't usually comment on wikipedia discussions, so I'm not sure how I'm supposed to sign... I'll just leave my most common name. ~HikaruYami

Dude, that's a pretty good idea, except I think that it should end in Kanto, where it all started. Then there can be news video updates on the PokeGear to justify the Elite Four changing. Crazycarolina 00:31, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

GA passed

I have passed this article for Good Article status. Congratulations! If you want this article to reach Featured Article status, I reccomend adding more inline citations and references for now. Funpika 01:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC^

What is this picture doing here?

It appears that someone has uploaded a picture of the starters, which seems fanmade, and has no rational or copyright information, and has placed it in the article. Should we IfD it? Or what? Jerichi~Profile~Talk~ 13:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what justification would be used to delete it, but I agree that it doesn't belong - it's a fan-made picture made using hte sprites, and it really serves no purpose. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 19:15, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I removed it from the article, so if nothing else OrphanBot will get it eventually. If anyone wants to get rid of it faster, that'd be fine too. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 20:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Pokemon Online

Hey everybody, I found this site that has a Pokemon MMORPG and it sounds legit. You need to download the client like every other MMORPG. I dont know if its real or a virus so im not downloading it yet. Do you think you guys could look into it? The websites address is http://www.pokemonol.net/. I would really like to try it but my computer antivirus stinks lol. If it is real and not a virus we can add it to the Miscellaneous section.

p.s. This is my first post, so I hope I didnt break any rules.Tythesly 22:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

That depends on what you mean by legit. POL is pretty reputable, so you probably won’t get a virus from them. I even played the old Alpha, back in the day.( The same cannot be said of their advertisers, necessarily, so don’t just go clicking everything and think it will be OK).

Unfortunately, yes, you did break a rule, but it’s OK, now you know in the future. See, these talk pages are for talking about the articles, not the subjects. In other words, this page is NOT for discussing Pokémon, it is for discussing the Wikipedia article about Pokémon. If you want to talk/ask about Pokémon, you should go to a forum somewhere. --WikidSmaht (talk) 23:01, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Umm, I think he/she was thinking of adding this in the article, maybe? :p Look at the end of the post. Just wanted to clarify. 213.42.2.11

There isn't a miscellaneous section. But if he/she was thinking about making a miscellaneous section and putting that in there, it might be okay...but then again it might not be relevant enough to use at all. So basically the poster was not breaking a rule. Funpika 13:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Talk archived.

I am happy to say that I successfully created Archive 2! Approximately 55 discussions were archived this time. Pokémon/Archive_2 has been set to redirect to the Pokémon article the same way it was from Archive 1. An archive box is on this page, Archive 1, and Archive 2 now. It is possible to navigate the Archives using it.

4 discussions other than this one were NOT archived due to how recent their discussion is. These discussions will be archived in Archive 3. Funpika 00:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Citations

It is about time we seriously try to get this featured. But we haven't met the criteria yet. The main problem is citations. Once we get those I will get this article Peer Reviewed and depending on the results, this article's rating may elevate to A class and a nomination for Featured Article will be placed. I am hoping that this article reaches Featured by the end of Q1 2007 (end of next month). I will be working hard trying to get citations today. If I get enough I will get this peer reviewed later today or tomorrow. Funpika 14:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a little absurd to try to get this featured before the games are even released in the US - once they are, they'll serve as primary-source references for much of the stuff here anyway, not to mention that with new info coming in at an increasing rate up to the release, there's a good chance the article won't really meet the "stable" criterion until the games have been out for a few weeks. There's no hurry - it's probably best to wait on FA, and just keep the article decent until then. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 21:40, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

You are referring to Pokemon Diamond and Pearl? I would 100% agree if this article was solely for Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, but it is NOT. This article is for Pokemon in general. Do we really have to wait because of 1 small section of the article? Frankly I think you thought this article was only for those games, considering you didn't say WHICH games even if it is painfully obvious. You only said "The Games". Funpika 22:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

• slaps self in head* Sorry about that, I was fully under the impression that I was on the D/P talk page...stupid me. :(

This page, yes, by all means, we need to get as many citations as possible and get it featured. I'll look for some too. FA status for this article is long overdue. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 23:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Apology accepted. :) Maybe you thought this was the D/P talk because now this talk and the D/P talk are about the same size since this talk page got archived yesterday. Funpika 01:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

characters last names

this may not seem important but what are the characters last names?

• ash ketchum
• misty williams
• brock harrison
• gary oak
• tracy sketchit
• may maple (or birch)
• max maple (or birch)
• jessie Yurimaki
• james morgan
• hikari

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.162.56.63 (talk)

As far as I recall, only Ash Ketchum, Delia Ketchum, Gary Oak, Samuel Oak, and Tracey Sketchit are the only important characters on the show who have officially been given last names. Anything else you've heard of is probably speculation or made up by fans. --Brandon Dilbeck 02:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Good Website

Should I Add This WQebsite? I mean it had info of pokemon Diamond And Pearl Even Before The Japaneese Started Working On it. Pokemon Elite 2000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pendo 4 (talk • contribs) 13:06, March 4, 2007 (UTC)

How could it have info on the games if they weren't even started? --Brandon Dilbeck 21:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that's just...I'm not sure what to say to that. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 04:42, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

PE2K is just a fansite (albeit a pretty good one), and frankly there's nothing there (besides its sprite galleries, which we don't use) that isn't done better at another site such as Serebii or Psypokes. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 04:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

This Website Has Been On Since 2001. This website had info found way before Pokemon.com will get it. It may be like Serebii but it has a more simple layout. Oh and the Pokemon Diamond Pearl Info on the website was when the Japaneese announced the game. I still think it should be on.Pendo 4 21:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

The article already has five good, official links. Wikipedia isn't a repository of links; if we added a link to one fansite, then by precedent, we'd have to allow links to all of them to be added and then there'd be dozens if not hundreds of links, which would be really unprofessional. --Brandon Dilbeck 22:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

While the fansites usually do post information before the official pokemon.com site does, it's absolutely ludicrous to imply that any fansite recieves the information first, considering pokemon.com is run by Pokémon USA. Not to mention that, from observing several sites over the past month or so, serebii.net posts information a few days before pe2k.com on average, and updates more often, so even if we were going to put a fansite in the external links section, it would probably be Serebii, not PE2K. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 00:09, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

About the new additions

I really like the new stucture of the article - it flows a lot better than it did before. However, because it's largely rewritten, there's a good amount of copyediting to be done. :) I did some editing on a few sections tonight, and I'm planning on looking the rest over as well, but it's definitely a good idea for everyone possible to look it over - the more eyes, the more errors get caught, and if we nominate this for FA soon, we don't want to be tripped up because of grammar, style, or consistency errors. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 04:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree very much. Shindo9Hikaru

Starter Pokémon

I know how influential a player's choice of Starter Pokémon can affect the game, but I am having trouble seeing the significance of including a section about them in this article. --Brandon Dilbeck 22:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not actually sure if we need an overview of the game mechanics at all: isn't that what Pokémon (video games) is for? If we do decide to leave it in, it would be better to have a mechanic that's prominent in all the media (including the TCG and manga), like Pokémon battles. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 00:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Pokémon name origins

I remeber a while back there was a page with the name origins for all the Pokémon, and now it's gone. Why was it deleted? Can someone bring it back, because I thought it was very useful. --User:marioguy 10:35 CST

I don't remember a page like that, but I've only been hanging around here for about a year. I have to disagree about the article sounding useful—it sounds interesting, but not encyclopedic (and probably chock full of original research). If it's any consolation, nearly all of the articles about each Pokémon species has that information in the introduction. --Brandon Dilbeck 18:01, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I imagine that if it ever did exist, it was removed because of OR concerns. Frankly, any and all speculation on the origins of individual Pokémon names is technically OR, because Game freak and Nintendo never say anything about it, even though a good number of the names are almost painfully obvious. It's been generally accepted that name origins, OR though they may be, can stay on each page, but I can imagine that a full article of them would grind on a few editors' nerves. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 00:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I remember seeing a page like that at one point, but it was lacking sources, so I agree; it was likely to be original research. Pokedork7876 12:13, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

English contraction

You can also get Pokemon out of Pocket Monster Atomic1fire 04:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Sure you can, but that's largely coincidence, which is why I removed the bold from the English part a few days ago. The contraction actually comes from the Japanese: Poketto Monsutā. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 05:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused; isn't "Poketto Monsutā" just the Japanese way of writing something that must be pronounced "Pocket Monsters"? [1] If so, it's no coincidence that it can come from either name. --The Raven's Apprentice^{(Profile|PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 03:05, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Close, but not quite. "ポケットモンスター", Romanized to "Poketto Monsutā", isn't just the way "Pocket Monsters" is spelled in Japanese, it's also how it's spoken. In other words, the pronunciation is inflexible (it's always pronounced "ポケットモンスター"), but it can be written in three different ways: katakana, direct Romanization of the katakana, or the Trademarked Romanization. The contraction was originally used in speech, so "ポケットモンスター" became "ポケモン". The fact that the rules of English happen to place the right letters in the right place for the contraction to be derivable from the trademarked Romanization as well is a coincidence: "pawket", "pockit", and "pocket" would, theoretically, be pronounced the same, but only the spelling of the actual English word, and not other versions of how the word might have evolved, actually contains the same four letters as "Poke". Likewise, "pocket" could have, when Western loanwords were being absorbed into the Japanese language, been spelled/pronounced "パケット" ("paketto"), which is arguably as close to the English word "pocket" as "poketto" is. In this case as well, the official Romanization and the katakana would not match up. It's just a matter of coincidence (albeit not a very far-fetched one) that the English and the Romanized Japanese happened to line up.

Regardless, the "Pocket Monsters" derivation doesn't belong in the article. Sorry for being so long winded, I just wanted to make sure anyone who was wondering the same thing could understand it. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 08:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

While we're on the subject, there's quite a few ways to type the é character. If you're using a Windows computer, you can hold Alt and then type 130 or 0233 on the number pad. On a Mac, you can press Option and e, then press e again (once for the acute accent, then once again for the e under it). Or you can type é into the source code—it'll turn it into a é when the page is rendered. Or you can copy and paste the character from one word to another. You can also copy the character from Character Map, if your computer has that. I'm sure there are other ways as well. --Brandon Dilbeck 03:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Or you can just use the little "é" in the "Insert" box at the bottom of every edit field. ;) It's also a great way to put in the various extended vowels (ā, ē, etc.) that are often found in the Japanese names. Now if only it had katakana... ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 08:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

New Pokemon game announced

Coro Coro has announced a new pokemon game! Look at this link! http://pokemonelite2000.com]

Should I put it on?Pendo 4 20:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

We should wait until there's actually something to be said about it. Hold tight until the magazine is available. --Brandon Dilbeck 22:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

On a possibly related note, Serebii has now reported that another Mystery Dungeon game is in the works, but he's not sure yet if that's the game that will be mentioned in CoroCoro. ~e.o.t.d~ (蜻蛉の目•話す•貢献) 08:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I thought Serebii failed source notability guidelines. Either way, it still seems like speculation. bibliomaniac15 05:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey look at This!!! Pokemon Dungeon Sequel! I found them on these websites: Oh and I am Pendo 4 not some other person who found these websites. [2]

and [3]

It is still unknown if these are the games Coro Coro are talking. Most likely not since it is not really possible for it to be announced before Coro Coro and that the Websites are not from Coro Coro.Pendo 4 20:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Gold And Silver Error

The second generation of Pokémon began in 2000 with the release of Pokémon Gold and Silver for Game Boy Color. Like the previous generation, an enhanced remake titled Pokémon Crystal was later released. It introduced 100 new species of Pokémon (starting with Chikorita and ending with Celebi), for a total of 251 Pokémon to collect, train, and battle.

I believe the lines "Like the previous generation, an enhanced remake titled...Pokemon Crystal...was later released. It introduced 100 new spieces of Pokemon..., for a total of 251 Pokemon to collect, train, and battle." are out of order. This statement might lead some to believe that Pokemon Crystal itself introduced 100 new species of Pokemon, not its previous incarnations of Gold and SilverEugeneBaker 18:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Is The Diamond/ Pearl Picture Valid?

There is no copyright information or anything admitting to being fan-made.Gatogirl 16:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You mean this one? Curious. There's no source information in the image's page. Something is seriously screwy with the shadows of the attack names on the bottom, and the picture itself is really lossy. --Brandon Dilbeck 23:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

There's a similar image on pokemon-games.com (Screenshots section). The picture there is slanted, though. —M_C_Y_1008 (^talk/_contribs) 00:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Looks like it was taken with an emulator. The colour reproduction isn't too good. 220.238.241.15 16:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Pokemon parodied on Ant & Dec

pokemon was once parodied on one of Ant & Decs shows where Dec was dressed up at Misty, Ant as Brock, and they'd apparantly been having a relationship and Misty was mad at Brock for cheating on her with Jesse from team rocket, and they proceeded to have a battle and one of Ant/Brocks weapons was Bryan from Westlife and he brought on Westlife and they proceeded to sing Flying Without Wings while Dec/Misty went phsyco screaming Bryans name, embaressing Bryan and then she ripped her shirt open revealing a picture of Bryan then he/she faints. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wstlif (talk • contribs) 16:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC).

Yeah, that was hilarious, it should be labeled under the "influence on media" part or whatever it is. Ashnard _talk 15:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Why should we list EVERY parody that's been made? I don't get it, there's too many. Crowstar 22:45, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Organized play

A few pokemon related articles mention competitive play. Apparently there are a list of rules too. Can someone expand on this? I've never heard of pokemon tournments other than the TCG. Where are they, what are the rules, and how do you register to play? H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 22:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I tend to think they're talking about Netbattle. – mcy1008 (talk) 22:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Why does everyone pronounce Pokémon Pokimon? It has the accent on the é, (e as in eggs) therefore, it should be pronounced as Pokémon. (This was just a suggestion, so please do not think that this is an important change to make.) Thank you. Orthodoxy 23:10, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Ignorance, I suppose. A lot of people probably don't know how é should be pronounced, and there were lots of times in the news for instance that I saw it spelled without the accent. Besides the IPA notation at the beginning of the article, it doesn't really seem prevalent enough to write much about in the article. --Brandon Dilbeck 19:47, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Is it really supposed to be pronounced like in the IPA transcript in the introduction, a.k.a. POKEYMAN, or in the less stupid sounding way: [po'kemon], as if it were romaji? --nlitement ^[talk] 16:06, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Why?

Why is this article longer than the "Lutheranism" article, for example?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.93.165.136 (talk • contribs) (UTC)

Because there are a lot of knowledgeable members that contributed to this article. Why is any article longer than another? No reason really. It's not a show of importance or anything. Guess Lutherans might not be Wiki-smart though. (And I can joke, because I'm Lutheran myself) BlackxxJapan 07:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Somebody watches Stephen Colbert a bit too much, methinks. DoomsDay349 01:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Dude, because there's more to say. I'm fairly new, but I've already heard lots of odd complaints. But this one takes the cake. Crowstar 22:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Standardized Sections?

While browsing through various Pokémon's sites, I noticed a large discrepancy between section headers; for example, sometimes they're named "Appearance/Biology" or sometimes "Biological Characteristics". Take a look at Shuppet and it's evolution Banette. Some differences I can find just by skimming:

• Either Shuppet is overly-sourced or Banette is under-sourced
• Banette's biology section is much longer than Shuppet's
• Shuppet's "role in games" section is described in much greater detail than Banette's
• Banette has a main section "Role" with subsections "...in the Video games", "... in the anime", etc, where Shuppet's are all different main sections
• Banette has separate sections for anime and the TCG but Shuppet has a single section for "other media"

I guess what I'm trying to do is lobby for well-defined sections and subsections that are consistent for all Pokémon. Who's with me? Schmloof 07:00, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

67.182.178.220 01:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)May 04,2007

I'm sorry to say I'm not. I mean, I'm into Pokemon games, but as for biology? Maybe I just don't know what I'm talking about. Sincerely, me

Newgrounds?

What's with all those random reference tags about newgrounds scattered around the article? Might want to clean those up if possible. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.214.196.25 (talk • contribs).

I think you should eliminate them because newgrounds have nothing to do with pokemon. (newgrounds is a game site that usually as films to make fun of pokemon)

Update TCG picture?

The picture of Dragonite in the TCG is very outdated. Should we update it? Schmloof 01:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Obsessive writer

This is the user that added all those Newgrounds links to the article. Action should be taken, but I don't know what. Cipher ^{(Talk to the hand)} 17:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Eevee?

Should someone add Eevee to the list of Starter Pokémon. In Pokémon Yellow, Professor Oak originally intends that you receive Eevee, but Gary snatches the Pokéball

67.182.178.220 01:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)May 04,2007

You're right; someone should. Not only was he Gary's Pokemon in Yellow version, but you also get an Eevee as a starter in Pokemon XD. Sincerely,67.182.178.220 21:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Pokémon (species)

I am surprised that, despite having tons of Pokemon-related articles, we have no article on Pokemon as a fictional species. The current article talks about Pokemon as a media franchise. Perhaps we can have Pokémon (species) or Pokémon (fictional species)? TheCoffee 02:02, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I, agree!!!

Pokemon Movelist

There ought to be a subdivision within the Pokemon information area that lists every move that a Pokemon can learn, and explains its effects, power, accuracy, and types. We already have a list of Pokemon--why not their attacks? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Geracht (talk • contribs) 02:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC).

A guide on Pokémon attacks would cause the articles to become too much like game guides, which the vast majority of us do not want. Please read Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information. Thank you. Ultraflame 22:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I think Bulbapedia has that kind of content, though, so you can look there if you want. --Brandon Dilbeck 14:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Is this...

http://pics.fort90.com/journal/pokemans.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g251/uglyfink/iminurpokemansnotshowing.jpg

Is that the reason "Pokemans" redirects here?

Ekansonic55 23:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that it is at least because some people might mistake the word "Pokémon" as "Pokeman", and even think that the plural is "Pokemans" (instead of what I think would be "Pokemen"). --Brandon Dilbeck 14:14, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Pokémon header templates

The templates used as headers in Pokémon articles have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sceptre (talk • contribs) 18:15, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

Horsea

I know this should be put under the Horsea article, but then no one would see this. It says in the article that, "In contrast to actual seahorse reproduction, the female lay the eggs, not the male". Well, male seahorses don't lay eggs, they give birth. The female lays the eggs in the male! Besides, in Pokémon, the female always lays the egg! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.224.11.160 (talk) 17:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC).

Church in Pokemon DP

Can someone add to the religion post that there is a church in the most recent version of the pokemon game series, along with, I believe, an NPC that speaks about tolerance of other beliefs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.179.203 (talk)

Dude! New discussions go at the bottom of the talk page. And please sign your posts. About your question, is there anything inherently notable about this building (I don't recall the game ever calling it a church or in any other way noting anything religious about it) or the comment about the person? If there's nothing to say about it, then why mention it? --Brandon Dilbeck 19:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

it's true, it is never mentioned as a church, per se. It does have traditional church elements, such as stained glass windows and is completely quiet compared to the noisy town. A man inside also mentiones There do I see my father, my son, my life. And there do I see Pokémon, nature, the world. That is pretty much a church statement. But as far as fact, there is no mention of church, and no mention of a religion. Therefore it should not be included. But I can see where the guy got the idea. Kevin 20 5 23 26 19:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not OFFICIALLY a church, and as far as I know it serves no function in the game. However, I think the Hearthome City map says something like "There is a building here where many people gather." or something like that. Crowstar 00:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Non-Neutral Comment

I found this comment among the info on religeous critisism;

"The Pokémon Trading Card Game has been criticized by members of the Jewish community for its use of the swastika, though Nintendo says that this is a matter of cultural misunderstanding, as the swastika and a similar symbol, the manji, have been used in East Asian cultures as a symbol for good fortune by the Hindu religion for thousands of years. The manji was shown only on a Japanese version card and was excluded from the North American release. However, these Jewish groups attacked the Japanese version distributed in the U.S. by unauthorized import. As a result of this controversy Nintendo stopped using this symbol even in the Japanese version. Just show how stupid people are."

Although I totally agree with this comment, Wikipedia is a place for FACTS, not opinions (as stated HERE). Because I'm not a registered user and the topic is locked, I just thought I'd mention this so someone with proper permissions can edit it.

Thanks, and you're welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.66.133.45 (talk)

That was vandalism. I reverted it. Funpika 10:10, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

"Generations" vs. "Generations of Pokemon Video Games"

I noticed that the section titled "Generations" contains several Pokemon video games and contains muhc content on the video games, therefore I suggest it should be titled: "Generations of Pokemon Video Games". Kevin 20 5 23 26

An invisible comment in that section says, "Please don't delete/rename this header as it is linked to from a number of places." I'm making a header titled "Video games" and putting both it and game mechanics under it. --The Raven's Apprentice^{(Profile|PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 06:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks ^_^ Kevin 20 5 23 26 02:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Effort Values and IVs

Just wondering, but since Effort Values (EVs) and IVs play a very large role in the stats of any given Pokemon, should they be mentioned in the article? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.153.228 (talk • contribs)

Adding information like that would make the article seem like a game guide, which the high-ranking Wikipedia editors do not want. Ultraflame 00:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

What's this thing about "high-ranks"?! Wikipedia ésto Communismo! The general consensus is not to include this stuff in articles, per What Wikipedia is not. And it smacks of cruft as well, seeing as these game mechanics have never been confirmed by Nintendo. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 02:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Posterchild

Im truely sorry for being mean,but I realy was trying to be funny,you see i have A weird sense of hummor. also I don't have many people to talk to about pokemon and I can't stand it when people support villens- espeliy chipher. I secerly apologize for the trouble I caused,And I geuss I over reacted,so for the good of everybody This will be the last e-mail from the pokemon poster child. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.159.34 (talk)

...villians like Cipher? >>—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 22:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

okay,sorry for the misunderstanding. Chipher is the crime sqaud in the pokemon games Xd gale of darkness and coloseum. by the way, so what does it meen when you use it?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.159.34 (talk)

There's a user named Cipher. I thought you meant him.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

What the heck's going on here? And what does any of it have to do with the notability of IV/EVs? --The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 02:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

...Oh. I guess all that whitespace our IP added was...in an attempt to start a new section.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 03:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

OK, but that doesn't go very far in explaining what's going on here in the first place. --The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 15:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I seriously am confused. Someone explain on my talk page. ~Crowstar~ 15:38, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I think I get it. Raven's Apprentice, check his her recent posts on talkpages. ~Crowstar~ 15:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh. For the uninitiated: The guy girl was spamming Pokémon Talk Pages with why he she thought certain peoples's usernames sucked. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 16:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

lisen,I said I was sorry okay, so lets just be freinds and move on. and Im not A guy Im A girl. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.159.34 (talk) Please sign your posts!

Sorry, I didn't mean to insult you, I was just adding a bit of info for the people who came by and wondered, "Hey, what's going on here?" Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 02:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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"Simon Ray"? --66.214.92.60 10:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Funny, eh? That was weird vandalism. Anyways, it's been moved back now. *Dies laughing* --The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 04:37, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Changing Pokemon to Pokémon

I want to add the accent mark, to all "pokemon" references. Is there any circumstance in which this is not official or a good thing? I also wanted to know if there was a way to automatically change "pokemon" to pokémon when users enter information. I want only "pokemon", not other words that also have e in them.

Latyrs, Usokki (talk · contribs)

Always sign your comments on Wikipedia with four tildes, like this: ~~~~. And the only place where "pokemon" should be used is when the site you're linking to in the ref says "Pokemon", not "Pokémon". No, I don't know of any way to automatically change e to é, but you can type é without using the Insert box: just use Alt+130 on the num pad. --The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 03:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! somebody ruined the main artical! I can't even look up A pokemon any more and this is where I always come to do that! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.210.159.34 (talk)

Calm down, dude. That was just vandalism, and was reverted just when you edited this page a second time. This is stupid though, it took all of 16 minutes to revert that, Semiprotection is becoming a pain. --The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 03:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Some early information

Maybe you already know, but there is an interesting article here, dated 1998, where Kaplan talks about the risk of bringing the franchise to US. -- ReyBrujo 21:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Cheats

i have a question. could you post cheats for the games —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SilverQuarters (talk • contribs).

Sorry, but Wikipedia is not a gaming guide. You can find them in IGN or GameFAQs for sure. -- ReyBrujo 03:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

picture captions

the picture captions just state the obviouus. shouldn't they describe it improvements on the battle screen like colors and the experience bar in crystal? Zombieminion 12:38, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

New comments to the bottom. And no, if the reader can't see the difference in the graphics without a picture caption, they're gonna need a Braille encyclopedia anyways. --The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 14:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Criticism/Religion and Islam.

I noticed that there is mention of Christian and Jewish criticisms of the Pokemon, but nothing on Islam.

In 2001, Pokemon was banned from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia via an Islamic edict issued by the Kingdom's highest religious authority ,the Higher Committee for Scientific Research and Islamic Law.

See here: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/03/26/saudi.pokemon/

One may suggest that this is not Islam as a whole and just Saudi Arabia, but is this any different than citing in the Pokemon article: "Some Christian groups in the United States". I don't think it is, and thus would like to suggest inclusion of the Islamic ruling in the Criticism/Religious section as well.

Sparty79 04:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)Sparty79

Fine, I'll add it. --The Raven's Apprentice ^{(PokéNav|Trainer Card)} 14:31, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Use of PokeBeach.com Info/Pics

Over the past few months, I have been noticing more and more of my images on Wikipedia, without any proper sourcing or credit, and to my astonishment, without my permission. A few weeks ago, I even read someone's talk page, where they had posted several of my images and that they had received credit from me to do so, which was not the case, and which, of course, greatly angered me.

In particular, I am referring to my scans on several of the Pokemon pages, and the Ken Sugimori images I spent several weeks editing for transparency. When I posted the Ken Sugimori images on my website a while ago, I explicitly stated that they were not to be used by anyone without permission, since they had taken weeks to edit, only to see a few days later that many of them had already been ripped from my site and made the main images for the Pokemon articles (replacing my older Sugimori images that I edited, which also did not receive my permission to use). I don't appreciate it when I go to other Pokemon sites and read "If you want the D/P Ken Sugimori images, go to Wikipedia." The work I spent weeks on has become your content, and you are the ones receiving credit for it, not me. I see that you post a link to my site under the image, but you just say they are from "here," not "PokeBeach.com," which really is not fair. You guys credit every other Pokemon site for every little thing with full-blown URLs and names, yet ironically, when it comes to my site, I always seem to get the push.

The scans are what anger me the most. The scans were scanned in and edited by the person who owns those cards for my site, and are the main feature of my site. No one is allowed to use them anywhere - this has been made clear on my site for years. Someone took many scans off my site without permission, yet did not even have the courtesy to provide a link on the image page. Worst, they even put the full-blown scans up - what's the point in visiting my site if they are all here on Wikipedia?

On the TCG set page and other TCG pages, I am finding copy and pasting of my news stories on new sets, old sets, information, etc. Why does every other page on Wikipedia have those little links next to info, which jumps down to the bottom of the page, but when it comes to my site, this is not the case? I also don't like how everytime I post a story on a new set, Wikipedia has c/p the same info within days of me posting it, with no credit.

I am willing to make compromises, such as making the images smaller and posting actual links where a person can find the information/pictures, but otherwise, I do not appreciate how I was never approached, asked, or told about the content taken from my site, as well as how the stuff from my site on here is never given proper credit like other sites. I wouldn't be as mad if other sites were not credited, but honestly, I think many people do not credit my site because it's not "as big" as other ones, and they feel it is okay to do so because no one will find out. This may be harsh, and I do not like to be harsh, but just because you are Wikipedia does not mean you can take whatever you want from other sites who are trying to serve content to the same people without permission and as you see fit. It's considered stealing to many, and it morally is not the right thing to do.

Water Pokemon Master 22:07, 22 July 2007 (UTC)