Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 3
Date: Saturday, 11 August 2007
Time: 1 - 4 pm
Location: Ironique, 448 Mt Eden Rd, Mt Eden, Auckland.
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Previous Meetups
- Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 1 - 26 June 2006
- Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland 2 - 10 February 2007
Future Meetups
Please watchlist Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland (which is very low traffic) to be informed of future meetups in Auckland or elsewhere in NZ, or Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.
Ironique
- Address: 448 Mt Eden Rd, Mt Eden, Auckland.
- You won't see us from the street. We will be at the back of the cafe.
- Reservation is made for 12 under the name of Lin. Linnah will update the reservation numbers at ironique if required.
- SimonLyall's phone number will be made available here closer to the time.
- Location Maps: Zoomin Map | Google Map | Yellow Pages
- Getting there by Bus:
- Any bus with 27x from Britomart will take you to Mt Eden. Bus route is Britomart - Anzac Ave - Symond St - Mt Eden Rd. Timetable from Britomart | Timetable to Britomart
- Bus 006 from Newmarket (by Newmarket Pools) to St Lukes also goes pass Mt Eden Shops.
- Timetable for bus stop at Mt Eden shops on Sat 11 Aug 2007 - includes time, route number and route information.
- Parking: There is parking along Mt Eden Rd. There is a shoppers car park on Essex Road. At the traffic lights, turn into the road where there's Barfoot and Thompson Branch Photo here. The car park is about 50m from the lights. There's also parking along Ngauruhoe and Poronui Sts.
- Food:
- Brunch and Lunch menu will be available.
- Food suitable for vegetarians are available too.
- Drink:
- The cafe is licenced. Selection of bottled beer and wine by the glass can be purchased.
- Coffee, Tea, juices, smoothies available.
- Ironique has an A grade for food hygiene.
People
If you have come here because of a notice on your watchlist, please say. I am trying to see how effective it is.
Coming
Please add your name to the list below if you are planing to attend
- Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot)
This time I have no problems :-) --Konstable- Blast, sorry, seems this month is way too busy for me. Perhaps next half-year.--Konstable 06:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Almost certain.-gadfium 04:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- First time for me - Mendors
- Almost certain - SimonLyall
- Very likely - Ingolfson 11:05, 14 July 2007 (UTC) (changed my username recently, old MadMaxDog)
- Probably - Avenue 03:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Probably - Linnah
- Possibily, although I Live in Hamilton now. Onco_p53 03:26, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Likely - Mathmo Talk 04:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- My misplaced comment regarding watchlist: Originally came because of being notified on my talk page, but seeing this on my watchlist was a nice additional reminder! :) Mathmo Talk 06:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Almost certain - first time - looking forward to it --Nzpcmad 19:45, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- Probably - Will try to arrange to bring laptop with wireless datacard, but it may not be available that day - --Zaf(t) 04:50, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. (will notify here if the plan changes) Ramir 00:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Possibly. (Saw the invite on my watchlist.) Teemu Leisti 12:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
Unable to come
If you have come here because of a notice on your watchlist, please say. I am trying to see how effective it is.
- Bummer, I'd love to be there, but can't because of current health. You guys enjoy. Moriori 23:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Invited, but Wellington is quite a way away. Sorry. Sabine's Sunbird talk 00:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- You do know this is the auckland meetup right? Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sabine's Sunbird is in Wellington, IIRC. Grutness...wha? 01:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- I misunderstood this as them thinking its in wellington, oops! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 02:49, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sabine's Sunbird is in Wellington, IIRC. Grutness...wha? 01:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- You do know this is the auckland meetup right? Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'd love to go, but Oamaru really is far away. --Hayden5650 01:39, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- And I came due to notice on my Watchlist (is this the geonotice?) --Hayden5650 09:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- ...And Dunedin's even further away, so I'm afraid I won't be at the meetup either. Maybe I should think about organising a meetup down here... Grutness...wha? 01:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the invite (didn't even know such a group existed - great to know of other Wikipedians here). Can't make it this time, but certainly hope to do so in future, if only to check up if other Wikipedians look as normal as I do. -- Jmc 22:29, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Too far away :) --Limegreen 22:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry... maybe next time... if I got a chance to save some money to go there - peads 07:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- ooh nice and close, cant come thoughBlacksmith2 talkEditor Review 07:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note on the watchlist. Can't come this time. BreathingMeat 20:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Well I think I got this notice via a watchlist, but I am in Wellington! Hugo999 23:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Watchlist was nice idea! I won't be there either, but fully support a Dunedin meetup. ~~ THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Interesting, but too far (palmy)BathTub 16:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ta, thanks for pointing this out to me, but alas, just too far awayThesnuffla 04:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Can't make it to Auckland, but would be interested in a Christchurch meetup. BigBadaboom0 06:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Watchlist invite, but don't live in Auckland, sorry. Aaadddaaammm 22:52, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Plans
Agenda
- Discuss the naming convention we have arrived at for Maori names (not wanting to reopen the discussion as such, just thinking that might make sense to recap it?) Ingolfson 09:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Discuss image copyright for images in 'grey areas' (i.e. unclear if already PD), and the various NZ copyright states. Ingolfson 09:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- Whatever happened to the NZ chapter? Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 12:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- What are the plans for getting more NZ topics covered? Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 12:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
- My plan consists of writing up more articles ;-) Ingolfson 08:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Wikimania 2008 in Auckland Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 09:51, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Timezone Issues Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- WikiEarth Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- NZ press and amount of wikipedia exposure Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Getting PD or GFDL images of people from the government and big companies like TVNZ Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Anonymity / Conflict of Interest. I'll explain at the meeting. Ingolfson 11:20, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Wikimedia’s websites as the technological basis for an open e-learning community. If I may. Ramir 05:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Meetup timetables Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 06:59, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Items to be brought
Please put your username next to the item if you are bringing it
- Camera: SimonLyall
- I’ll bring one, too. Photographic, not video. Ramir 04:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Anyone have a laptop with decent roaming online access? We shouldn't spend the time surfing Wikipedia, really, but if we want to point something out, it would be great. Ingolfson 11:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- hmm maybe next time we should pick a venue with free wireless (eg parnell, or cafes with a telecom wireless hotspot).Linnah 12:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- What's the point of going to a meetup and NOT using wikipedia? It should be good for looking things up anyway. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 23:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- I have a laptop (as many do...), but currently no mobile broadband. But given an access point... or if people ask me to download a few pages to make it viewable offline? Mathmo Talk 06:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Would anyone object to me filming the meetup? A lot better than individual shots, and it means we can check what we discussed etc. I have access as part of my studies to some good quality film equipment, so if you guys are keen, i'll bring it, and distribute the video to anyone who wants it. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- People are not acting 'normal' when they are being filmed. And I would feel a little bit like in a Big Brother (TV series) setting. So no, I wouldn't be happy with that. I also don't think we need any perfect record of what we discussed. Its just a cooperative meetup, and nothing we decide there is above other consensus decisions made on Wikipedia itself. In fact, you might argue that decisions made during such a meetup are worth less, as they exclude people from the consensus-forming who couldn't attend. I'm probably exaggerating the effects and relevance of your good-faith proposal a little bit here, but I simply don't think it is a good idea. Cheers. Ingolfson 11:13, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Would anyone object to me filming the meetup? A lot better than individual shots, and it means we can check what we discussed etc. I have access as part of my studies to some good quality film equipment, so if you guys are keen, i'll bring it, and distribute the video to anyone who wants it. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have a laptop (as many do...), but currently no mobile broadband. But given an access point... or if people ask me to download a few pages to make it viewable offline? Mathmo Talk 06:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- What's the point of going to a meetup and NOT using wikipedia? It should be good for looking things up anyway. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 23:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- hmm maybe next time we should pick a venue with free wireless (eg parnell, or cafes with a telecom wireless hotspot).Linnah 12:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
- I'd also prefer for the meeting not to be filmed. For the previous meetup, there was a documentary maker who was interested in filming the meetup and interviewing the participants, but the understanding was that a few minutes of the meeting only would be filmed. The documentary maker decided against coming in the end.-gadfium 20:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Just a suggestion, instead of filming, just record with a dictaphone or similar, that way we know whats been said with out the direct precense of a cameraBlacksmith2 talkEditor Review 22:01, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
- Probably a bad idea then. Also, I was meaning it would also be great for those that couldn't attend but want to - I had another good idea possible for future meetups, but that can wait. I won't bring it. I see what you mean by people not acting normally surrounded with film equipment (the camears quite big, plus leads, mics, etc). Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:33, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
Publicising Auckland 3 Meetup
Do we want to use the new Geonotice feature to advertise the meetup? I have no idea how many extra people might come to it as a result of such advertising. If we have sufficiently fine control, I'd favour advertising to people between Hamilton and Whangarei.-gadfium 04:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
If you are leaving notes on user talk pages about this meeting, please also request they watch Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland to be informed of future NZ meetups. It'll save having to look them up again next time. Thanks. Linnah 02:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
- Geonotice is a good idea. Also, I left the notices, but forgot about that. If I do any more, i'll make sure to point them to that. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
- I've placed a request (I think) on the Geonotice page. The procedure for making a request isn't established yet.-gadfium 04:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- The geonotice is now live. I can't see it; perhaps my ISP (Ihug) uses a nationwide pool of IP addresses so my current IP isn't identified as being in Auckland. Can anyone else see it on their watchlist page?-gadfium 20:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, i've confirmed it, but it didn't appear for me until I hard reloaded - hit Ctrl+F5 (or hold down ctrl/command and press the reload button). That worked for me. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, we appear to be getting lots of attention, so it seems to be working :) Linnah might have to update the reservations. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- There's no need to update the reservations till closer to the day. There will be some movement in the numbers between now and then.Linnah 07:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, we appear to be getting lots of attention, so it seems to be working :) Linnah might have to update the reservations. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a list of IPs that are Auckland only (or that define users as auckland only). While there's various ways of defining what is a NZ IP, there's no definitive way. There are several lists of NZ IPs, not all of them are identical. Geonotice uses a freely distributable database that maps IP address to location. So I suspect the geonotice is going to users connected from what it thinks is a NZ IP. Linnah 08:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- No, I know that especially in small countries like here (not saying we are small, but compared to a lot of others) that geotargeting can be really off. Auckland is usually pretty accurate, but due to the way that some ISPs handle routing, all users from some ISPs appear to be auckland users. It's some weird way, but at least it should appear to most people in the wanted areas. Also, I meant change closer to the date, as it can take up to 3-5 days for all watchlists to purge the javascript caches, and to get the new messages. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 09:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, i've confirmed it, but it didn't appear for me until I hard reloaded - hit Ctrl+F5 (or hold down ctrl/command and press the reload button). That worked for me. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
I got what I guess is a geonotice and came and checked this out. It certainly made me aware that there was a planned meetup near me, but at the moment have not had the time to put into much on the wiki and what limited time I have had I have used for other projects. But now I have seen this (thanks to the Geonotice) I will be on the lookout for later meetups. Leaderofearth 09:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Great! At least we know there's a lot of interest. Future meetups should be much better. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:22, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
- Don't worry, Matt, once we have this third one under our belt, Auckland had more meetups than most places worldwide ;-) Ingolfson 06:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Also if more people were to add their names to it you could, use [1]
the categorey for wikipedians in Auckland, currently on 3, if there were more subcategories also in the right area you could use those.Blacksmith2 talkEditor Review 07:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
- Except for those places with monthly meetups. Also, the category is partially unnecessary, as we have the geonotice, which provides more publicity than anything. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 08:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)