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Hogan's second theme

Regarding Hogan's second theme... the fact about the song being Bonnie Tyler's "Ravishing" is true. Check out her official bio on her website, there's a reference to it about midway through the biography. And take a listen to a clip of the track here at Amazon.com. The WWE version is probably an instrumental version of the song. --Jtalledo (talk) 16:57, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

That bio lists the release date of "Ravishing" in 1986; The Wrestling Album was released in 1985. Seems to me some studio hack decided to reuse the beat, and Bonnie's telling stories. --HBK 19:14, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

It looks like Jim Steinman is credited with writing Hogan's theme and he probably reused the beat for the song, see this bio Anyway, Steinman should be credited in the article. --Jtalledo (talk) 00:50, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Note about Real American - the Jimmy Hart thing isn't true. Jimmy Hart's tunes have been edited out of WWE's DVDs because they don't want to pay him royalties. The Jimmy Hart rumor originated as "he wrote the song for Hogan" when in fact the song was oringally for Rotundo/Windham. This is just a form of that rumor that Jimmy Hart wrote it for them. The song has been copywrited by the WWE forever - not "just before Hogan joined WCW". They've always owned it. And I don't think Jimmy Hart had anything to do with writing it - Rick Derringer performed it (could have wrote it), WWE's inside music man could have done it, as well help by David Worlf. Hart seems unlikely. Like I said, I've not heard of him writing the song anywhere except in the context of the mistruth "wrote it for Hogan".

Isn't it possible that Jimmy Hart wrote the song? I believe I've read numerous things about Jimmy Hart writing a good chunk of the entrance/theme songs to many WWE stars of that day. You mention a "WWE inside music man", which many have said was Hart to some extent. He wrote Shawn Michael's "Sexy boy" theme, if I'm not mistaken.Khal 18:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

His trainer broke his leg deliberately?

I find this hard to believe. I can find several sources that mention he got his leg broken, but nothing to suggest that his trainer did it deliberately to instill respect. Can anyone cite a source please? 84.67.189.21 15:47, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Not only has Hogan stated this in interviews many many times, the story is printed in Hogan's own words in his autobiography "Hollywood Hulk Hogan" on page 25:

Before I knew it, (Hiro) Matsuda was sitting down between my legs and putting his elbow in the middle of my shin. Then he grabbed the end of my toe and twisted my foot until - crack! - my shinbone broke in half. The whole thing took about two seconds. I had barely gotten into the ring and my damn leg was broken.

If that quote doesn't make it clear, the book is searchable on Amazon.com, and the context makes it plain. --Chrysaor 02:44, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I have Hogan's book and I do remember reading about Hiro Matsuda breaking his leg. I doubt Matsuda would break Hogan's leg to install respect. That would be an extreme way to instill respect. If someone can find evidence on why he broke Hogan's leg, then we will never truly know why Matsuda did it.

fishhead2100 April 28, 2006 1:41AM (UTC)

I read his book and he did say that matsuda di that [how dare him]
Ksan April ? 2006 10:47 pm EST

At that time Hogan maybe was a cocky prick and thanks to Matsuda breaking Hogans leg now he the lovable Hogan we know and love today... just a thought.

I remember watching a couple of biography shows in which Hogan was the subject and he stated that Hiro Matsuda did snap his leg. He stated that he came in there kind of cocky and a little full of himself. I don't find it all that unlikely that it really happened, despite the fact that Hogan has always been a shameless self-promoter even during the most candid of interviews. Hiro Matsuda comes from a whole different generation of wreslters. He's from the same vain as Harley Race and Killer Kowalski, legitimate tough guys that wouldn't hesitate to put a cocky young punk in his place with a couple of extremely stiff shots. Odin's Beard

It wasnt unusal decades ago for trainers to injure people. This was for 2 reasons: 1) to show that wrestling was 'real' 2) to see if you were tough enough to return. Thats just teh way it was abck then. darkie

I heard that on Hogan's 1st training session his trainer broke his shin and told him if you return then you'll make it to a pro if not then you wont SKRIBUL 20:09, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• • • Matsuda was known to be hard on all of his students. --Khal 19:03, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Chronological Order

I'm no expert on Hogan, so I dont' dare make such a drastic edit to this article for fear of putting stuff in the wrong order, but... why in the world is the article sorted by company affiliation? It makes little sense to skip from Hogan leaving WWF to returning, and then LATER mention his span in WCW, for instance. This is confusing to say the least. JPG-GR 06:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Hogan vs. Flair

This isnt really something that needs to be put on the page, but I just want to get other people views on it. The WWE keep pushing Flair & Hogan as the single most greatest legend of all time, but which one is the greatest if there is one?

That would depend what you would base "greatness" on the most. Like them or not, they're both great on the mic and working a crowd. I'd call it down the middle on that. Flair is obviously more skilled in technical terms. Most wrestlers can "out wrestle" Hogan after a month or so of in ring training. However, Hogan is certainly a much bigger draw than Ric Flair ever has been at any point in his career. While Hogan's in ring skills were limited to mostly a punch, a body slam, a boot, a clothesline, and a leg drop, the Hulk Hogan character itself crossed over into mainstream entertainment like no other wrestler did before him. The Hulk Hogan character was kind of like the ultimate good guy. An old fashioned comic book superhero brought to life that always did the right thing, said the right thing, was extremely patriotic, demonstrated or hinted at supporting Christian values, loved kids, etc. Basically, everything that the Regan Era conservative would eat up. Personally, I find it rather gag-worthy, but it sure worked. In a lot of ways, the Flair character was the exact opposite of the Hogan character. Both made immeasurable contributions to pro wrestling. But, like any other business, at the end of the day, it comes down to money. Hulk Hogan is wrestling's biggest draw. Just on the strength of him being at an event, even if he's not wrestling a match, thousands will buy tickets and millions will tune in from home. Odin's Beard 03:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

What many people don't realize is in Japan Hulk Hogan was a more technical styled wrestler. Where as Japan is mroe about athletism then in American where it's mostly about mic work.

I'm aware of it, but it's not the style he preferred as evident throughout almost his entire career. Working a more technical style for a few months while working in Japan can't counter the nearly three decades since of subpar "wrestling" skills while working matches. Hogan preferred a more limited style based mostly on power in combo with his ability to get over with a crowd. Nothing wrong with that at all. However, his "greatness" certainly never came from technical wrestling skills, but more from his charisma, drawing power, and having the right gimmick at the right point in America. Odin's Beard 01:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Odin - I don't think it's necessarily right to speak on a style Hogan "preferred". He wrestled one style in Japan and another in the US. During his time in the WWF, that style of wrestling (what some consider more subpar) was what was done, as opposed to the southern NWA matches, which showed a lot more technical wrestling for years on. The WWF was all about the "larger than life" battles, while other promotions relied on skill. The fact that Hogan went with that and ran it into the stratosphere doesn't mean that that's the style he PREFERRED, or he would have just stuck with that while wrestling in Japan. At least, that's how I see it. --Khal 19:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards

Why does Hogan's page only list his positive accomplishments? He was voted most overrated seven times. If we're not including the negative, the positive should be removed as well. This isn't a fan site, it's an encyclopaedia.Kirby17 16:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree entirely. Those need to go in as wellIsaac Benaron 07:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Divisive Figure

Not sure how we'd do this, but I think we need to mention the fact that Hogan is rather a divisive figure among wrestling fans- I can think of no other man who is both so totally adored by old-school wrestlign fans and so thoroughly detested by Smarks (myself included) and the IWC. This is a notable fact.Isaac Benaron 07:59, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Scary Movie 5

On the tv/movie roles it says that he will be on Scary Movie 5. Is that true and if it is, what page is it referenced on? Wweisreal 16:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

No reference was made, and it has been removed. (Sawyer 08:07, 25 August 2007 (UTC))

This is what's listed as the reference for it on the Scary Movie 5 page: http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/2007_/articles/1187236621.php if you google "Scary Movie 5 Hulk Hogan" there are plenty of websites reporting it, but it's always possible that they just heard the rumour elsewhere and ran with it. Th 2005 08:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Ridiculous Length

Not to knock Hogan at all, but most Nobel prize winners don't have articles anywhere near this long.Landroo 12:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

MTV reality show? "Hogan knows best" is on VH1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.2.84 (talk) 14:29, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

VH1 is owned by MTV.

Such is the way of the world I suppose. I'm willing to wager there are more people that care about "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan than the latest Nobel prize winner. Th 2005 15:55, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Last Name

Do I assume correctly that the article is calling him "Hogan" throughout the piece, even before he changed his name, simply because everyone identifies him as "Hogan"? FlaviaR 19:14, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Biography / Family / Ethnicity

Since this page is locked, can someone add the following information about the Hulk. Many people didn't even know Hogan's surname is really Bollea (evident in the news about his son's recent accident). It would be helpful if someone can add that he was "the third child born to Italian-American Pete Bollea, and Ruth Bollea, a Panamanian-American of Italian and French heritage." This is courtesy of tricolore.net, BiographyChannel, imdb.com, vh1, and other prestigious media web pages. This will also help to link him to the page of List_of_Italian_Americans. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.73.44 (talk) 00:06, 2 September 2007 (UTC)