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Hello WWGB! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Khoikhoi 08:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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"Redirect" Canadian, Canada

Hello WWGB. I take it from your edit to Mr. Doherty's article, that "redirects" are bad. I had understood that it wasn't necessary to have "Canada|Canadian" since simply putting "Canadian" would achieve the same end result. Okay, from now on, I'll avoid redirects! Thanks. Canada Que-Can 23:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Que-Can. I don't think re-directs are "bad", it's just that admins and editors have pointed out to me that using the direct link is more efficient. I guess that's because direct links won't be affected by "broken" redirects. WWGB 00:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, just wanted to thank

you for including Colin Thurston in the roundup of the list of passings from this year (2007). I was going over to that list to try to see if his name needed to be added and was surprised to find that you'd added it, I *think* before I even started on his Wikipedia article. I added a few more details since he is noted for having produced more than just Duran Duran (cf his article for more), but it's nice that you put even that up. So thanks. (Krushsister 23:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Deaths in 2007

Speedy tagging

Good work with speedy tagging, but one piece of advice: Some of the articles you tagged were only created one or two minutes before, so the creator might still have been in the process of adding material which could make notability obvious. This isn't an issue if the article is Joe Bloggs (born 1993) is a schoolkid, but be careful not to bite the newbies. Some new page patrollers advise starting from the bottom of the new page list instead of the top. Oldelpaso 08:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great job on new article patrolling. Although it may seem redundant, I put in my edit summary something which describes my reason for speedy delete. Usually something like "no attacks please", "not notable", "WP:NFT", or somesuch. Other editors might find your reasoning in the edit history that way, even though the db-tag you choose will state your reason in the article as well. It's a courtesy to warn the article's author as well with the canned nn-warn or whatever template is suggested by the db-tag by pasting it onto the author's talk page. Keep up the good work. MKoltnow 03:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seuss?

  • just a quick note to say i'm big in favour of the rhyming edit summaries [1] :-D tomasz. 13:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I hereby award you this barnstar for your tireless contributions and upkeep of the Recent Deaths pages; your efforts are appreciated. Keep up the good work! Weatherman90 03:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kelsey Smith

Hello. I added Kelsey Smith to the Recent Deaths article. I see that you went in and cleaned up the entry into proper Wiki format and style. Thanks for doing so. I was not 100% sure how the page is normally formatted, but I did at least want to get her name in there. Do you know of the proper way to cite her inexact date of death? That is, should we just leave it under June 2? Or should there be some notation that the date of death is unknown? What do you think? Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 15:18, 8 June 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for your input on this issue at the Recent Deaths talk page. (JosephASpadaro 23:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC))[reply]

speedy tagging - G4

G'day WWGB,

good job on the whole speedy tagging thing. Just a little point; I noticed you tagged Kishore Sen for speedy deletion because it had been previously deleted in AfD. The article, however, had only been speedy deleted. G4 exists to stop people re-creating articles and demanding a whole new AfD to get rid of them again. If an article is created where a previously-speedied one existed, it's only speediable if it meets one of the criteria for speedy deletion. Cheers, fuddlemark (befuddle me!) 06:59, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Birtles Shorrock Goble

Hi WWGB. You are off to such a great start on the article Birtles Shorrock Goble that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. Appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Again, great job on the article. -- Jreferee (Talk) 02:29, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query On 8 July, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Birtles Shorrock Goble, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 11:33, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bradman prize

Hilarious! Do you have any RS? Deserves its own (DYK-able!) article, I'd say. --Dweller 09:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Second Fleet (Australia)

Hi. I'm not sure if you noticed, but the Second Fleet (Australia) article has been Australian collaboration of the fortnight for the last week, and will be for the next week. As you voted for it, please help to improve it in any way you can. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 04:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deaths in 2007

Hello. I have a question about the Deaths page. You seem to be a regular and an active editor on that page, whereas I am just a casual and occasional reader of it. Would you offer your input on my question for that page ... or are you not the appropriate person? Please reply at my Talk Page: User talk: Joseph A. Spadaro. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro 17:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]

WWGB is not only a "regular and active editor" but he is the "resident expert" on the Deaths pages. He is in Australia so don't expect an answer from him until your night.. which is his day. I am sure he will be more than happy to answer your questions and provide input. Tom M. 20:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Joseph. Notwithstanding the flattering comments from Tom, I am just a "regular editor" at the above page (although maybe a bit too obsessive?). I am happy to assist or advise if possible. Please continue to leave messages at User talk:WWGB. Regards, WWGB 23:19, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Thanks for getting back to me so promptly. I will take Tom M.'s word that you are the resident expert for the Deaths page. Here is my question. If you look under August 13, you will see the following entry: "Yone Minagawa, 114, Japanese woman recognized as the world's oldest person, old age." I was thinking of editing / changing that entry ... but I was not sure how to capture the best wording to do so, without being too long and cumbersome and wordy. If you read her claim to notability (she was "recognized as the world's oldest person") ... it is somewhat ambiguous in its wording. Does that wording mean (a) she was the world's oldest person ever ... or (b) she was the world's oldest person up until the time of her death (i.e., currently ... or at least "currently" up until August 12/13) ...? Clearly, the answer is "b" and not "a". I just think that the wording of the entry needs to be changed to reflect "b" instead of "a". As it stands now, one could (incorrectly, but rightfully) read and interpret the current entry to mean "a". Can you propose proper wording to reflect "b" ... without that wording being overly cumbersome, awkward, wordy, and lengthy, etc? Thanks. Please let me know your thoughts. Please reply at my Talk Page. (Joseph A. Spadaro 23:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]
That's a very good point, the current entry is ambiguous. I suggest wording such as "Japanese woman who had been world's oldest living person ..." or "Japanese woman who was world's oldest living person at time of her death". You might like to play around with the words to convey the correct meaning while keeping the entry relatively brief. Cheers, WWGB 00:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I will give this some thought and change it when I come up with good wording. Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro 03:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]
May I ask what 3RR is?? Tom M. 00:37, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lluís Maria Xirinacs

Refering apparent suicide reported by a reputable source, pls. indicate what is a reputable source for you. When I writed the sentence you deleted, I gave all sorts of reasons, policies and references. May you please correspond before deleting?. I you had given me the opportunity to disccus the subject, as used here, I could have given you even more reasons, sources, and references--Paco ✉ 15:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because I do refer and have access to primary sources on several languages, and follow Guidelines and Policies. You only give secondary sources that speak about appearance and suppositions that should not be given much credibility. No traces have been found in the autopsy, and the burial has not yet been autorised by the judge. I can give you a long list of contradictory sources in several languages. Which do you read fluently?--Paco ✉ 15:49, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's clear that you are not ready to give any credit to other opinions than yours, as one far away of your sources is for you more relevant to several very near sources I put in your consideration. I will not take on this useless discussion. Time will probably give more light. Instead I will just ask you to think over it's much more difficult to prove that an event did not happened, as it is to prove that it happened. If traces were found it could be quickly stated that it was suicide, if not, it would not be so evident, and it may be necessary to wait more results of more complex tests. This is the reason for the innocence presumption is today accepted in the civilized world.
"The reliability of a source depends on the context: A world-renowned mathematician may not be a reliable source about biology." 1 which newspapers are more relevant to an event in Catalonia? Catalan ones or the Independent if context is considered?
It has been a pleasure to have this interesting discussion with you, and look forward to meet you in future ones. By the way, in the supposed event that other results are obtained, what would you consider a more reliable source than your beloved The Independent?--Paco ✉ 12:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

Thanks, I learn something new every day. Tom M. 02:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese Americans

You might want to check out the AfD for List of British Asian people, counterpart nomination for List of Portuguese Americans. A lot of the same relevant material. Bulldog123 19:35, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding edits to McVicar's Bus Service

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No fair? Explain

I just wanted to know what made you call the edit of Georgetta Roush to link to her son Jack Roush in recent deaths as "no fair"?

In the grand scheme of things -- no disrespect to her -- she hardly qualifies as a NASCAR car owner. In a nutshell, cars can only be "owned" by one representative person each for NASCAR documentation -- nobody can "own" two cars. Lots of multicar teams put up relatives to meet this requirement. She was put up as a representative (a front name) but had little to do with day-to-day operations of the team.

Guroadrunner 12:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, if Georgette Roush does not warrant a Wikipedia article in her own name, then she should not really be listed in Deaths in 2007. It is not fair to pipe her name to her son's article, so that her death notice appears "blue" and she avoids possible deletion for being non-notable
Ah - now I understand. It is most likely that anything on her would go on Jack Roush's page, which is why I piped it. I was thinking in terms of the best place for people to find info on her. Her importance in the grand scheme of things pales dramatically to Roush, Robert Yates, or even Bill Gardner of DiGard Motorsports. Guroadrunner 08:36, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Summaries

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. Carter | Talk to me 12:44, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Turnerzworld

Hello, Turnerzworld is a legit corporation situated in Tokyo, Japan. I believe that the article is Wikipedia worthy. If you believe that it isn't, I totally respect your opinion, though I'd rather talk this over with you first, and hopefully I or we can improve this article. P.s. It's a pitty Australia lost to england again in the rugby. Regards, a fellow Australian, Turnerzworldcorp 16:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Fox

If I'm not mistaken, Paul Fox used to have his own article, but it was deleted and redirected to The Ruts (I thought the original article was Paul Fox (producer), but apparentely not). Anyhow, there was consensus at some point that Paul Fox (musician) (or whatever the original article was called) should be a redirect to The Ruts. Cheers, CP 22:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, not that I've been editing it, but Asian countries tend to start their age count at 1. So if the source is from Asia (or the information is taken from an Asian source) then the person in question may be listed as one year older than than they really are. Cheers, CP 22:17, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not a problem

My pleasure to help you and the project for which we share passion. --Kukini hablame aqui 07:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Looks like you've annoyed some folks... Keep up the good work, whatever it is! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 15:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Non admin closures

If you have a look over at WP:DPR#NAC - it's intended for clearing of backlogs. About 80% of discussions pointing keep, by the requisite time (5 days in AfD, 7 days in TfD etc) are unanimous and utterly non controversial and that's what they're meant for. The user who performed this close managed to violate the section on two counts - it was controversial, and he was involved. Orderinchaos 10:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it also says Decisions are subject to review and may be reopened by any administrator. If this happens, take it only as a sign that the decision was not as unambiguous as you thought. which is why I closed the DRV and reverted his edits. Gnangarra 10:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

article on line-of-duty death of NYPD Officer Timoshenko has reappeared

This article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Russel Timoshenko seems to have been recreated. Was their an ok for that to have been done? If so shouldn't its history be listed on the article itself?

I ask because either there is a startling coincidence going on or the same partisans of this young man, tragic thought his situation was, who have recreated it seem to be on a rampage against the neighborhood of Crown Heights, Brooklyn where he was killed and it's institutions, (please see: Labor Day Carnival) as well as various comments about "unfairness" left on the editing history (see comments about Sean Bell) , etc. CyntWorkStuff 23:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talkpage

Please do not edit my talkpage. ExtraDry 06:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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