User talk:Bandurist

Awards

Exceptional newcomer

		The Exceptional Newcomer Award
		For enthusiasm, can-do attitude, and a slew of articles related to Kobzarstvo, awarded on 7th of December, 2006 --Riurik

		Двічі
		Came here for the very same reason but Riurik beat me to it. Very well, then, I am happy to double the award :). Please keep up the great work! -Irpen 05:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

		Ukrainian Barnstar of National Merit
		You are hereby awarded this "Ukrainian Barnstar of National Merit" for continued expansion of historical articles, among which you created Bohdan Stashynsky, Sydir Bily, Zakhary Chepiha, Pavlo Holovaty, and expanded Antin Holovaty. Congrats!--Riurik(discuss) 06:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For your excellent work on Antіn Holоvaty. Thanks for picking up the ball and running with this project...Thank you. Odessaukrain 01:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Irreproachable services

		For Irreproachable Services - 3rd degree
		You are hereby awarded this Ukrainian National Award "For Irreproachable Services", in recognition of your continuous efforts to ensure adequate coverage of Ukrainian topics on Wikipedia, to expose Ukraine-related articles to wider audiences by writing entries eligible for the "Did You Know" section on the Main Page, such as Hnat Khotkevych, and for making over 100 edits to Bandura and Symon Petlura entries.--Riurik(discuss) 18:11, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK's

DYK: Veresai

On December 7, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ostap Veresai, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Hello Bandurist, and thankyou for creating this article. You are making an excellent start to your wikipedia career. Keep up the great work on Ukrainian coverage - happy editing, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 00:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

DYK: Khotkevych

On 28 June, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hnat Khotkevych, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 18:10, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

DYK: Vertep

On 6 July, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vertep, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 13:46, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

DYK: Schwartzbard trial

On 25 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Schwartzbard trial, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Mgm|^(talk) 09:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

• For some reason this notice ended up with Komusou first. Someone mixed up the attribution and I didn't think to check. Congratulations anyway. :) - Mgm|^(talk) 16:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK: Repatriation of Poles

On 24 October, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Repatriation of Poles (1944-1946), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Mrs.EasterBunny 16:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Repatriation of Ukrainians from Poland to USSR (1944-1946) - just a stub, but I thought I should at least return the favor.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  13:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, you may be interested in Przebraże Self-Defence.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  13:44, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

DYK: Pogroms in Ukraine

On October 31, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pogroms in Ukraine, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

On 4 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article OST-Arbeiter, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Possible dyk entry Hnat Khotkevych

Bandurist, Hnat Khotkevych is not new, but it may qualify for the dyk since it has been significantly expanded in the past five days. It has a nice catch line, something along the lines: ...that the poltava bandurist capella, of which Hnat Khotkevych was the director, was the first Soviet music group invited to North America? But it needs a reference. If you can add it, I can then suggest it in time. (ps. I tried to locate the ref. myself, but could find it; having two-three sources under references should be just right).--Riurik^(discuss) 04:27, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Nominated here.--Riurik^(discuss) 18:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Bandurist/Archive 1

Ukrainian folklore

Now that you are back, could you help expand this article? Ostap 21:28, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hereby...

		For Irreproachable Services - 2nd degree
		For your unwaivering commitment and contributions on English Wikipedia to Ukrainian subjects, you are hereby awarded the Ukrainian National Award "For Irreproachable Services" of the second degree. It is bestowed specifically for increasing articles on the culture and history of Ukraine to the English speaking audiences. In the area of culture, you are recognized for Taraban, Resheto and Floyarka, among many others. In the area of history, you are recognized for Ukrainian People's Revolutionary Army, OST-Arbeiter (DYK), Proclamation of Ukrainian Independence, among many others. Your commitment is appreciated.--Riurik(discuss) 21:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

March 2008

Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Template:Infobox Writer/doc worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox. Thank you. I know that it was not an editing test. But changing the nationality to ethnicity in the documentation does nothing to the actual template itself. If you think that this needs to be changed, then bring it up on the infobox writer talk page. Note that making changes to the template changes all the thousands of articles that use this infobox. _pete 11:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Balachka etc.

First of all thanks for the birthday greeting! Second, just to finally put a stop in whatever is left of our dispute on that article, following my earlier message I have interpreted that you agree to the present version. So I hence remove the final neutrality tag. In addition I also requested that Ukrainian language be unlocked. So I hope that his settles everything. If you are interested have a re-view Azov Cossack Host, and please archive some of this talk page. If it kills my 2 GB of RAM, imagine what it does for the less powerful computers. --Kuban Cossack 16:40, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sol Littman

Hey, could you provide a source for documentation about Littman's dishonesty that I can place in the Ukrainian-German collaboration during World War II page's section about 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS Galicia (1st Ukrainian)? ThanksFaustian (talk) 21:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Just put Sol Littman and Liar intro Google and you can review the sites and various letters. Bandurist (talk) 14:04, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Denial of the Holodomor

Thank you for your archiving, but could you restore the sections that are still open? I'm thinking of the ones on Tottle etc. particularly, where I'm still waiting for sourcing. Thanks! --Relata refero (disp.) 11:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC) Shall be done. Bandurist (talk) 13:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Bud' Laska

Any help would be greatly appreciated here: [[1]]. Bud'mo Horlo (talk) 08:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Трохи про те як спецорган контролює російськомовну діяспору через відділ ЭМ. Те що ми бачимо. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomakiv (talk • contribs) 00:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

New info on Shukhevych and Jews

I know you are interested in this topic. Apparently during the war his wife, Natalia Shukhevych was sheltering a Jewish girl Irina Reitenberg. According to BBC Roman Shukhevych saved her from the Holocaust. More on relations between members of OUN and Jews here in Ukrainian. --Hillock65 (talk) 09:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for creating this page, Ukrainians in the Kuban. I think a lot of things get tied to that such as holodomor. The article is very interesting and explains why in Russia is the town of Rizdvianyi and why old people have a difficulty to speak in Russian with thick Ukrainian accent. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:05, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

UPA

What happened to

• Women in the UPA
• Publishing activity of the UPA

???Bobanni (talk) 07:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

History of Ukrainian minority in Poland

I highly suggest adding relevant details there first, and only summarizing key point in other articles (like massacres of Poles in Volhynia), not the other way around.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 03:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Huta Pieniacka

Bandurist, I do not mind you adding information from Ukrainian perspective, but please do not remove some referenced facts. THanks and greetings. Tymek (talk) 01:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Happy Easter!

Mykola Pymonenko, "Easter morning prayer in Little Russia", 1891, Oil on canvas, 133x193 cm, Rybinsk Museum-Preserve of History, Architecture and Art, Rybinsk, Russia.

Happy Easter from the homeland! --Irpen 08:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Bili Sarny detention centre

Hi, can you provide any more information about this? It is disputed whether such a place ever existed (see that article's talk page); there is basically only the one (controversial) Ukrainian reference at the moment, and no Google hits for it in English/Polish. In any case there is no source for any of the statements made in the article, so it seems a prime candidate for deletion unless you can back it up with reliable sources. Thanks,--Kotniski (talk) 09:44, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Guarini Institute

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Incivility, 3RR on Babi Yar

You have three times in the last few hours reverted Babi Yar. As an experienced user you should be aware that you have already violated the spirit of the three revert rule, and that your next revert would break the letter of the rule.

Further, your last comment, directed at me, as "Ukrainophobic" is incivil. Please avoid characterizing me.

I have addressed the content that you have been trying to delete on the article's talk page. Please discuss there. Jd2718 (talk) 13:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

If you read the comment again you will notice it was directed at the passage in question and not a characterisation. Bandurist (talk) 14:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

ЯК НАС МОРИЛИ ГОЛОДОМ

Please check the following sites:

http://www.archives.gov.ua/Sections/Famine/Publicat/Fam-Serg.php

http://www.history.univ.kiev.ua/golodomor/32_33.htm

My Ukrainian is limited however I believe this is the book that you recently used as a reference.Bobanni (talk) 12:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Bandurist (talk) 13:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ukrainians of Brazil article help

Hello, awhile ago I created an article about Ukrainians of Brazil. Since then someone has added a list prominant "Ukrainians", almost all of whom were actually non-Ukrainians. Because this detracted from the article I had those people removed. This prompting an edit war, smears of me being a Nazi, etc. because apparently some Brazilian editors feel that every single person born in Ukraine must be a Ukrainian and it is racist to state otherwise. I provided examples of other non-Ukrainians from Ukraine such as Ukrainian-born Trotsky or Mikhail Bulgakov to no avail. Perhaps another Eastern-European voice would be helpful? Thanks...Faustian (talk) 03:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. What is your opinion of ethnic Jews being placed in the category of ethnic Ukrainians? (on the article's tralk page I provided refeences to Subtelny and Magosci about Ukraine's Jews being a seperate people, at least in the days prior to the Revolution).Faustian (talk) 12:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Ethnic Jews in Ukraine never associated themselves with Ukrainian ethnicity but rather with the nationality i.e. the ruling power. In Ukraine, because of the fact that Ukraine was administered by various powers, Jews living in Ukraine associated themselves as Polish Jews, Romanian Jews, Austrian Jews, Hungarian Jews, Russian Jews. Only about 10% actually spoke Ukrainian. Do a Google search of Ukrainian Jew and you will find very few references. Sometimes Soviet Jew or Galitzien Jew.

I've seen born in Lwow Poland, born in Lemberg Austria, Lvov Russia anything but Ukraine.

Interesting article http://www.jcpa.org/JCPA/Templates/ShowPage.asp?DBID=1&TMID=111&LNGID=1&FID=385&PID=0&IID=1548

Bandurist (talk) 13:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Given that, don't you agree that it's inappropriate to load up the Ukrainians in Brazil article with Jews who emigrated from Ukraine but who never considered themselves to be Ukrainians? Could you contribute your input to the Ukrainians in Brazil article so that I am not один воїн в полi?Faustian (talk) 13:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Shall be done. Bandurist (talk) 13:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I added the relevent quotes and website, but a supporting voice would be helpful. I'm trying to get admins invovled and don't want to make it look like just a 2 person argument. It's about the facts, and the more on my side the better.Faustian (talk) 13:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Info

Hello Bandurist! Two months ago you requested that a citizenship and ethnicity parameters should be added to Template:Infobox Writer. I requested it again at Template talk:Infobox Writer and I think if several users will support me, I can add it myself after several days. - Darwinek (talk) 15:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent Bandurist (talk) 17:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I've made proper changes. It should work OK now. - Darwinek (talk) 14:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Natalka Poltavka

Can you do a separate article about the operetta then? Thanks. --Kleinzach 03:57, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Info on 3R

I am leaviong for vacation for a week or so and can't pursue this, but just came across this information on the 3R rule that seems to apply to Joe:

Wikipedia:Three-revert rule

The motivation for the three-revert rule is to prevent edit warring. In this spirit the rule does not convey an entitlement to revert three times each day, nor does it endorse reverting as an editing technique. Rather, the rule is an "electric fence". Editors may still be blocked even if they have made three or fewer reverts in a 24 hour period, if their behavior is clearly disruptive. Efforts to game the system, for example by persistently making three reverts each day or three reverts on each of a group of pages, cast an editor in a poor light and may result in blocks. Many administrators give less leniency to users who have been blocked before, and may block such users for any disruptive edit warring regardless of whether they have explicitly violated the three-revert rule. Similarly, editors who may have technically violated the 3RR may not be blocked, depending on circumstances.

He seems to obviously be disruptive and has been fostering a one-man low-level edit war (he only reverts once a day, only to be reverted himself by one of many editors) for months now. Feel free to paste my comments.Faustian (talk) 16:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yep. In the mean time grammar and stylistic edits continue which he blatantly disregards. Notice he only picks on the specific topics - Holodomor, UPA, Holodomor denial etc. I just cannot take him seriously anymore. He has been attacking Collectivisation in Ukraine for a couple of days. I haven' reverted therem but the article is getting to be unreadable. I will probably revert back after I see where he is going with it. Thanks for the support Bandurist (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Comparison of populations of the most numerous ethnic groups within the USSR according to the Soviet census of 1926-1937

Ethnicity	1926	1937	1937 in % compared to 1926	Population increase/decrease
Russians	177,792,124	193,933,065	120.7%	20.7%
Ukrainians	31,194,976	26,421,212	84.7%	-15.3%
Belarusians	4,738,923	4,874,061	102.9%	2.9%
Uzbeks	3,955,238	4,550,532	115%	15%
Tatars	3,029,995	3,793,413	125.2%	25.2%
Kazakhs	3,968,289	2,862,458	72.1%	-27.9%
Jews	2,672,499	2,715,106	101.6%	1.06%
Azerbajanians	1,706,605	2,134,648	124.1	24.1%
Georgians	1,821,184	2,097,069	115.1%	15.1%
Armenians	1,568,197	1,968,721	125.5%	25.5%

You probably don't know what Soviet census 1937 results does not exist so far - visit russian article about Census 1937 and read referenced. I don't mind the Khorunjivka statements - luckily remains less 1 year for this junk Jo0doe (talk) 16:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

You probably don't know that the results were published in Moscow by the Russian Academy of Sciences in 1991. See here

Mykola Lysenko

Hello, you seem to know a lot about Ukrainian music and composers. Do you know where I can get any information about the children of Mykola Lysenko (their names, birth dates, occupations)?--Boguslav (talk) 00:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

His son Ostap was in Kiev. He published a couple of books and letters. His granddaughter works in the Kiev conservatory. A met up with one of his grandsons in a Ukrainian bar in Detroit in the 80's. I have the huge photoalbum in English on Lysenko but it has very little on his family. Bandurist (talk) 01:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

This picture of Lysenko's Family from the International Mykola Lysenko Foundation shows that he had 4 children. Do you happen to know their names and, maybe, birth dates?--Boguslav (talk) 01:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

His first (official) wife was Olha O'Connor was his cousin and ten years younger than him. He dedicated 11 works to her. He had no children with her. She was mentally ill with depression when she found out about Lysenko's mistress, and entered a monastry where she lived till 1933.

From his second (non-official i.e. he was not married to her) wife (Olha Lypska - one of his piano students) he had 7 kids, 2 which died in childbirth. She died in 1900. All his children were musicians. The oldest Kateryna. Mariana became a professional pianist finishing the Moscow conservatory and teaching in Kiev and Lviv. Halyna was a singer. Taras a pianist who died at the age of 22 from flu. Ostap became a musicologist and taught at the Kiev conservatory. Hope that helps Bandurist (talk) 10:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

leaving direct quotes intact

Please do not change direct quotes inside the quotation marks like you have done here with the quotation directly from The Washington Post. --Irpen 18:45, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you (award)

		For Irreproachable Services - 1st degree
		For loyalty and active participation on English Wikipedia and Portal:Ukraine, you are hereby awarded the Ukrainian National Award "For Irreproachable Services" of the first degree. This award recognizes your work on many fronts, such as over 4500 mainspace edits, but two are specifically noted: 1. continuing to write referenced articles on the history and culture of Ukraine: Collectivization in the Ukrainian SSR, Vira Vovk, Ukrainian World Congress, and 2. exhibiting utmost dedication to preserving the quality of encyclopedic entries, and guarding against bias, disruptions, and vandalism. Your work is appreciated!--Riurik(discuss) 03:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)