Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 October 27
October 27
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on October 27, 2008
There are six irrelevant ghits for "'a little town in france' indianapolis". I could not verify the existence of this slang term, and even if it's in widespread use as a nickname for Indianapolis, it's highly unlikely someone would type this in if they want the city in Indiana. szyslak (t) 19:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- It was a joke. Just delete it. ---SilentRAGE! 19:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Redirect makes no sense. GrszReview! 19:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's an internet meme based on Engrish subtitles in a bootleg copy. It is discussed in that section (right at the end), so I suppose it's sort of relevant. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
We delete quote redirects to protect people from being exposed for something ridiculous, right? So why can't we do the same here? I made this redirect, but I did not make the word. It's not even a real word, it's only a misspelling I made. I know that this will only be removed when I get lucky, but the word isn't even in any dictionary, aren't we supposed to eliminate all redirects made of something fictional? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 18:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Note if you created it, you can ask for speedy deletion - just tag it with {{db-author}}. If you wish not to do so, it might be kept as a plausible typo simply because you created it as an inadvertent typo. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
This redirect Makes no sense. Mjf3719 (talk) 18:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Despite its history (or because of it? I'm not sure), Speedy delete as nonsense (since an admin had once deleted it as vandalism before reverting himself/herself). Both this version and the all-caps variety have undergone repeated deletions, including at least one non-vandalism (apparently) blanking. 147.70.242.41 (talk) 18:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak keep It's a fairly popular meme (from a badly-translated Star Wars bootleg); popularity may be borderline by Wikipedia standards. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Its page history includes the original version of DavidLee which I moved but was re-created and then deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DavidLee (2nd nomination). This should now likewise be deleted as non-notable. Fayenatic (talk) 14:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete:I can not not add more than was already discussed at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DavidLee (2nd nomination) discussion. Soundvisions1 (talk) 16:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - appears in target article listed in the Infobox as a former member of the group. Should the band not be notable enough for its own article, the redirect would fit CSD R2 after an AfD of Th' Legendary Shack Shakers resulting in deletion. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 18:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
October 27
There are six irrelevant ghits for "'a little town in france' indianapolis". I could not verify the existence of this slang term, and even if it's in widespread use as a nickname for Indianapolis, it's highly unlikely someone would type this in if they want the city in Indiana. szyslak (t) 19:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- It was a joke. Just delete it. ---SilentRAGE! 19:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Redirect makes no sense. GrszReview! 19:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- It's an internet meme based on Engrish subtitles in a bootleg copy. It is discussed in that section (right at the end), so I suppose it's sort of relevant. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
We delete quote redirects to protect people from being exposed for something ridiculous, right? So why can't we do the same here? I made this redirect, but I did not make the word. It's not even a real word, it's only a misspelling I made. I know that this will only be removed when I get lucky, but the word isn't even in any dictionary, aren't we supposed to eliminate all redirects made of something fictional? TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 18:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Note if you created it, you can ask for speedy deletion - just tag it with {{db-author}}. If you wish not to do so, it might be kept as a plausible typo simply because you created it as an inadvertent typo. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
This redirect Makes no sense. Mjf3719 (talk) 18:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Despite its history (or because of it? I'm not sure), Speedy delete as nonsense (since an admin had once deleted it as vandalism before reverting himself/herself). Both this version and the all-caps variety have undergone repeated deletions, including at least one non-vandalism (apparently) blanking. 147.70.242.41 (talk) 18:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Weak keep It's a fairly popular meme (from a badly-translated Star Wars bootleg); popularity may be borderline by Wikipedia standards. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:59, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Its page history includes the original version of DavidLee which I moved but was re-created and then deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DavidLee (2nd nomination). This should now likewise be deleted as non-notable. Fayenatic (talk) 14:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete:I can not not add more than was already discussed at the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DavidLee (2nd nomination) discussion. Soundvisions1 (talk) 16:19, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - appears in target article listed in the Infobox as a former member of the group. Should the band not be notable enough for its own article, the redirect would fit CSD R2 after an AfD of Th' Legendary Shack Shakers resulting in deletion. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 18:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Template loop detected: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Ballet redirects
This extremely unlikely search term carries the implied POV that Baltimore is a dangerous, crime-ridden city. Per NPOV, Wikipedia should let the murder statistics speak for themselves. (n.b.: I changed this redirect's target from Baltimore, Maryland to Baltimore because the city page moved, making this a double redirect.) szyslak (t) 06:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, I suppose if someone wanted to know what Bodymore, Murderland referred to, this redirect would let them find out. Someone from, say, Australia, probably wouldn't know American cities well enough to guess what was meant, and might check Wikipedia to find out.I'd probably be inclined to keep it for that reason, of course presuming the description is in use by a reasonable number of the city's critics. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)- .1% of the ghits compared to Baltimore, Maryland + offensive + noone notable in the first couple pages = delete. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - from the same blogosphere that produced Obamessiah. Nothing from outside of chats and blogs here - a few years ago, "Murderland" would apply to Detroit - it's all a matter of perspective. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
This redirect serves no purpose other than to disparage people from the city of Baltimore. Unlikely slang terms are fine for Urban Dictionary but not appropriate for the Wikipedia namespace. (n.b. This page pointed to Baltimore, Maryland until very recently, but since the article was moved to Baltimore I fixed what had been a double redirect.) szyslak (t) 06:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Unless some pretty good evidence showed this was in wide use, delete it. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - from the same blogosphere that produced Obamessiah. No acceptance from anything close to a reliable source. No need for anything this inflammatory. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Confusing redirect - title appears when editing the current target of this redirect. Malformed CNR as a result. B.Wind (talk) 04:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Was a sandbox in article namespace, but now appears unnecessary, having been turned into a redirect, and I assert that no one will link to this page off-wiki. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - clearly was intended to be a temporary page, not a permanent one. The article has been moved, and the history moved with it. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate pseudo-namespace, does not redirect to a heavily used page and does not point at content. MBisanz talk 00:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. This shortcut points to the *Talk* page of CAT:INVALID. The latter is Category:Articles with invalid ISBNs. This is empty at the moment, but will be repopulated whenever Rich Farmbrough does another run to collect ISBNs with invalid checksums. At the time this mini-project was active, there were seven people who needed to compare notes on correcting these ISBNs. It was convenient to use CT:INV as a central place to have the discussion. Including the Talk archives there were 110 Kb of discussion reached through this redirect. Over 2,000 ISBNs were corrected altogether. Does anyone have an idea for a different pseudo-namespace in which to create shortcuts for Category Talk? If that particular shortcut is needed for another purpose, we might be willing to give it up. CAT:CSD and CAT:RFU are two other shortcuts that do not point at content, so I'm not clear on the principle being mentioned. (This is a maintenance shortcut, not one intended for our readers to use). EdJohnston (talk) 00:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- The problem is that it appears in the mainspace and would show up in searches of articles and the like. CAT:CSD is in the same situation, and I'm trying to find a way to fix that, but there about about 20 CAT: prefixes and only 2 CT: prefixes, so I was trying to eliminate this smaller exception. MBisanz talk 02:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, is there a namespace it could be moved to? A Wikipedia search for 'invalid ISBNs' brings up not only this Category talk page but also some individual user sub-pages. Not sure that eliminating this redirect would make any difference to what appears in the Wikipedia search results. EdJohnston (talk) 03:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- The problem is that it appears in the mainspace and would show up in searches of articles and the like. CAT:CSD is in the same situation, and I'm trying to find a way to fix that, but there about about 20 CAT: prefixes and only 2 CT: prefixes, so I was trying to eliminate this smaller exception. MBisanz talk 02:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate pseudo-namespace, does not redirect to a heavily used page and does not point at content. MBisanz talk 00:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Let's assume that "CT:Tasmania" was initially a short cut for a talk page for [[Category:Tasmania]]. Clearly the talk page exists, and the category exists, but I'd like to hear from the appropriate Wikiproject (Australia, I believe) before any action. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate CNR to a Wikiproject, does not link to content. MBisanz talk 00:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. I'd suggest speedying it, but R2 doesn't include the Wikipedia and Wikipedia talk namespaces in the criterion. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Go ahead and speedy - I merely forgot to include the WP: on the front of the shortcut. This has since been amended on the redirect target page, so 0.7 FILMS and FILMS 0.7 may be deleted at will. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 02:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate CNR to Help space, Wikipedia does not use the WM: pseudo-namespace MBisanz talk 00:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Not useful because of the nonstandard pseudo-namespace prefix. — Gavia immer (talk) 13:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - not only for the badly-formed name, but also for something that is clearly temporary in design and nature. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
A articctle made by a ip that was turned into a redirect. Not really needed. User:Raggonix/sig
- Hmm... maybe someone might miss-hear "Pokemon" as "Pokemom" so I'm not sure about deleting that one. Master&Expert (Talk) 06:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- 97,000 ghits for Pokemom, 68 million for Pokemon. That's about .1% of ghits, which may be just about enough to justify a redirect as a common typo. But it's certainly pushing it a bit, and, of course, I haven't checked what proportion of that .1 percent are making bad Yo momma-style jokes. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
This extremely unlikely search term carries the implied POV that Baltimore is a dangerous, crime-ridden city. Per NPOV, Wikipedia should let the murder statistics speak for themselves. (n.b.: I changed this redirect's target from Baltimore, Maryland to Baltimore because the city page moved, making this a double redirect.) szyslak (t) 06:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Well, I suppose if someone wanted to know what Bodymore, Murderland referred to, this redirect would let them find out. Someone from, say, Australia, probably wouldn't know American cities well enough to guess what was meant, and might check Wikipedia to find out.I'd probably be inclined to keep it for that reason, of course presuming the description is in use by a reasonable number of the city's critics. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:35, 27 October 2008 (UTC)- .1% of the ghits compared to Baltimore, Maryland + offensive + noone notable in the first couple pages = delete. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - from the same blogosphere that produced Obamessiah. Nothing from outside of chats and blogs here - a few years ago, "Murderland" would apply to Detroit - it's all a matter of perspective. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
This redirect serves no purpose other than to disparage people from the city of Baltimore. Unlikely slang terms are fine for Urban Dictionary but not appropriate for the Wikipedia namespace. (n.b. This page pointed to Baltimore, Maryland until very recently, but since the article was moved to Baltimore I fixed what had been a double redirect.) szyslak (t) 06:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Unless some pretty good evidence showed this was in wide use, delete it. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - from the same blogosphere that produced Obamessiah. No acceptance from anything close to a reliable source. No need for anything this inflammatory. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Confusing redirect - title appears when editing the current target of this redirect. Malformed CNR as a result. B.Wind (talk) 04:14, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Was a sandbox in article namespace, but now appears unnecessary, having been turned into a redirect, and I assert that no one will link to this page off-wiki. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:11, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - clearly was intended to be a temporary page, not a permanent one. The article has been moved, and the history moved with it. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate pseudo-namespace, does not redirect to a heavily used page and does not point at content. MBisanz talk 00:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. This shortcut points to the *Talk* page of CAT:INVALID. The latter is Category:Articles with invalid ISBNs. This is empty at the moment, but will be repopulated whenever Rich Farmbrough does another run to collect ISBNs with invalid checksums. At the time this mini-project was active, there were seven people who needed to compare notes on correcting these ISBNs. It was convenient to use CT:INV as a central place to have the discussion. Including the Talk archives there were 110 Kb of discussion reached through this redirect. Over 2,000 ISBNs were corrected altogether. Does anyone have an idea for a different pseudo-namespace in which to create shortcuts for Category Talk? If that particular shortcut is needed for another purpose, we might be willing to give it up. CAT:CSD and CAT:RFU are two other shortcuts that do not point at content, so I'm not clear on the principle being mentioned. (This is a maintenance shortcut, not one intended for our readers to use). EdJohnston (talk) 00:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- The problem is that it appears in the mainspace and would show up in searches of articles and the like. CAT:CSD is in the same situation, and I'm trying to find a way to fix that, but there about about 20 CAT: prefixes and only 2 CT: prefixes, so I was trying to eliminate this smaller exception. MBisanz talk 02:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, is there a namespace it could be moved to? A Wikipedia search for 'invalid ISBNs' brings up not only this Category talk page but also some individual user sub-pages. Not sure that eliminating this redirect would make any difference to what appears in the Wikipedia search results. EdJohnston (talk) 03:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- The problem is that it appears in the mainspace and would show up in searches of articles and the like. CAT:CSD is in the same situation, and I'm trying to find a way to fix that, but there about about 20 CAT: prefixes and only 2 CT: prefixes, so I was trying to eliminate this smaller exception. MBisanz talk 02:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate pseudo-namespace, does not redirect to a heavily used page and does not point at content. MBisanz talk 00:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Let's assume that "CT:Tasmania" was initially a short cut for a talk page for [[Category:Tasmania]]. Clearly the talk page exists, and the category exists, but I'd like to hear from the appropriate Wikiproject (Australia, I believe) before any action. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:24, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate CNR to a Wikiproject, does not link to content. MBisanz talk 00:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. I'd suggest speedying it, but R2 doesn't include the Wikipedia and Wikipedia talk namespaces in the criterion. SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Go ahead and speedy - I merely forgot to include the WP: on the front of the shortcut. This has since been amended on the redirect target page, so 0.7 FILMS and FILMS 0.7 may be deleted at will. Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 02:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate CNR to Help space, Wikipedia does not use the WM: pseudo-namespace MBisanz talk 00:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. Not useful because of the nonstandard pseudo-namespace prefix. — Gavia immer (talk) 13:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- Delete - not only for the badly-formed name, but also for something that is clearly temporary in design and nature. 147.70.242.40, temporarily at 147.70.242.41 (talk) 19:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
A articctle made by a ip that was turned into a redirect. Not really needed. User:Raggonix/sig
- Hmm... maybe someone might miss-hear "Pokemon" as "Pokemom" so I'm not sure about deleting that one. Master&Expert (Talk) 06:30, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
- 97,000 ghits for Pokemom, 68 million for Pokemon. That's about .1% of ghits, which may be just about enough to justify a redirect as a common typo. But it's certainly pushing it a bit, and, of course, I haven't checked what proportion of that .1 percent are making bad Yo momma-style jokes. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 07:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)