Talk:Kanye West

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5th album

it says its in 2009, but it is JUNE 2009. i think thats important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.184.64.152 (talk) 16:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

bad picture

there are many other better and cooler pictures of Kanye West... That is a bad picture, and it makes him look funny. You should really change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.109.113.5 (talk) 19:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

He is funny! He actually thinks he will be remembered as an artist when in fact people will remember him for his bloated ego and the sore loser attitude! --142.161.216.128 (talk) 18:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Exuse me. I thought the idea od wikipedia was to inform peoplr about facts, not personal opinion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.105.240 (talk) 01:58, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Dave East????

Can i know where's the source that his real name is Dave East???? This is big blows because in every page that i search on the web, his real name is Kanye Omari West. Strange. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.81.36.112 (talk) 15:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it's rubbish, because the pronounciation box next to it is for 'Kanye'. So somone must have changed it recently. 5150emergency (talk) 16:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Have checked history of the page and his name and year of birth were both recently changed. Can someone revert them back please as i can't because it's a semi-protected page. 5150emergency (talk) 16:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Must have been some vandal. Probably put "East" since it's opposite of West. Not sure where Dave came from NakaXeta (talk) 01:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

britney noteworth

is it notable that kayne has been working with britney spears ? TomSkillingJr.

Fall Out Boy remix...

the article states a WAY more positive view of his verse, which is actually a small jab at the ambiguity of the song (his first line is "Now I dunno what the hell this song is talkin' bout. Do you?") and the general style of fall out boy. he does complement them though on the fact that they 'raced straight to the top,' but it's a rather biased point of view. it's pretty minor, but it was noticeable to me. tard nuggets.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fahimi (talk • contribs) 23:13, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

MTV

Kayne West Live in Tomball Texas with three white kids. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.199.129.20 (talk) 17:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

This line: "In September 2007, West suggested that his race had to do with his being overlooked for opening the MTV Video Music Awards in favor of Britney Spears; he claimed, "Maybe my skin’s not right."

Needs to be changed to this: "In September 2007, West suggested that his race had to do with him being overlooked for opening the MTV Video Music Awards in favor of Britney Spears; he claimed, "Maybe my skin’s not right."

A small spelling mistake

Derogatory Comments Towards Mixed Race Women

I'm getting annoyed at the fact that everything bad about Kanye West keeps being removed. Here's the quote

“If it wasn’t for race mixing there’d be no video girls. Me and most of our friends like mutts a lot. Yeah, in the hood they call ‘em mutts”.

Here's the sites it was listed on. It did cause a stir amongst some black and mixed folks, hence why I know about it in the UK. http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.4685/title.kanye-west-calls-mixed-girls-mutts http://www.mediatakeout.com/Exclusives/Kanye_Mutt.html http://www.intermix.org.uk/news/news_061206_01.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by Invertedzero (talk • contribs) 12:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

That wasn't a serious controversy and he was obviously joking in the interview. Things that have short bursts of coverage but no long term historical significance goes to Wikinews. See also WP:RECENTISM. Spellcast (talk) 22:03, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

That's exactly the problem with Wikipedia. It's not your place to determine what is and is not 'serious' controversy. If it was controversial enough to become news, it should be mentioned. This is why all Wikipedia pages read like fan sites - because fans control the content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.2.209.2 (talk) 18:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

GA review

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

• The lead really needs to summarize Kanye West's career.
• Is the More awards (2008) section, really necessary? If so, some of that info. needs to be merged somewhere in the article.

1. B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

• At the beginning of the article, a source is needed for his name and date of birth.
• Some of the information in the third section appears to be OR.
  • Could you just post what section number, i.e. 1, 1.1, 2.3, etc. because third can mean anything. (Third second level section? Third overall?) Gary King (talk) 20:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
    • I didn't add that. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
• Does Reference 7 cover all of this ---> "West was born in Atlanta, Georgia, where he lived with both of his parents. When he was three years old (as mentioned in "Hey Mama") his parents divorced, and he and his mother moved to Chicago, Illinois. His father was Ray West, a former Black Panther who was one of the first black photojournalists at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, and is now a Christian counselor", if not, a source is need to cover this.
• Does Reference 10 cover all of this ---> "West took some art classes at the American Academy of Art, a Chicago art school, and also enrolled at Chicago State University, but eventually dropped out due to poor grades and in order to continue working on his music career. While attending school, West produced for local artists. He later gained fame by producing hit singles for major hip hop/R&B artists, including Jay-Z, Talib Kweli, Cam'ron, Paul Wall, Common, Mobb Deep, Jermaine Dupri, Scarface, The Game, Alicia Keys, Janet Jackson and John Legend among others. He also "ghost-produced" for his once mentor Deric Angelettie according to his song "Last Call" and the credits of Nas' "Poppa Was a Playa"?
• "West's style of production often utilizes pitched-up vocal samples, usually from soul songs, with his own drums and instruments", needs a source.
• In the 2001 section, does Reference 11 cover all of that paragraph?
• "Jay-Z admitted that Roc-A-Fella was initially reluctant to support West as a rapper, claiming that he saw him as a producer first and foremost" and "Multiple record companies pushed him aside because he was not the stereotypical hip hop artist", need a source.
• A source is needed from both Rolling Stone and Spin about their reviews on Late Registration.
• A source is needed for his eight Grammy nominations.
• Does Reference 23 cover this ---> "In January 2006, West again sparked controversy when he appeared on the cover of Rolling Stone in the image of Jesus wearing a crown of thorns. Later that month, he suggested in Playboy that if a Bible were written in the present day, he is famous and important enough to be included in it. "I throw up historical subjects in a way that makes kids want to learn about them", West claimed, "[I'm] definitely in the history books already"?
• A source is needed for his 2006 Grammy wins.
• In the Graduation section, "On July 7, 2007 West performed with the British band The Police and John Mayer at the American leg of Live Earth", needs a source.
• In the Political views section, the MTV interview he did needs to be sourced.

1. C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

2. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

3. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

4. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

5. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

6. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   This article is in need of a lot of sourcing. But, if the statements above can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Okay all done Gary King (talk) 20:36, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you to Gary for getting the stuff I left at the talk page, because I have gone off and placed the article as GA. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Relationships

Just been reading this article and it says:

'In May 2007, West split from long-time model girlfriend Alexis Rainey.'

and then later on in the article:

'Kanye West and designer Alex Phifer ended their 18-month engagement in 2008. The couple had been dating on and off since 2002, with Kanye eventually proposing in August 2006.'

How could he have proposed in August 2006 if he only split from Alexis Rainey in May 2007? Or is that correct? Just wanted to mention it in case it is an error... 5150emergency (talk) 16:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Err...don't you mean Alexis Phifer, (not Alexis Rainey), bearing in mind his girlfriend prior & during his College Dropout era was Sumeke Rainey. Adaobi ^YELL!!_done 20:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Logical sequence

I wanted to point out that we need to re-organize the structure of the article. Contoversies should be in the same paragraph, mother's death should be integrated in one of the paragraphs to be intact with the chronology of the events, and Awards sections needs something else other than "Main article:". Daniil Maslyuk (talk) 06:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Mother's death

This section reads too much like journalistic tabloid coverage, not an encyclopedia article. Who cares about whether the doctor left the first TV interview, or who introduced who to whom? That is not of long-term interest.--Parkwells (talk) 12:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Bonnaroo

Can someone (who is better at wiki editing than me) add some info on the whole Bonnaroo thing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.60.169.46 (talk) 00:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

First, new discussion at the bottom of the page. Second, what? --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 07:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Aliases, Nicknames, etc

Regular wikipedians should add aliases for rappers into their articles. Kanye is often referred to as Yeezy, Jay-Z often known as Hova, Hov, etc. But none of this information is ever placed in the articles. 92.9.180.80 (talk) 23:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

No, they shouldn't. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a collection of lists. See the corresponding WikiProject and template for guidelines. --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 07:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Great example of Wikipedia's inflexibility. It wouldn't be a collection of lists, but rappers are fairly exceptional in their usage of these aliases, since they're used so very often. Oh well. 92.12.22.16 (talk) 19:22, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is actually very flexible, as long as a consensus is reached. In this case, there is. Just because West calls himself Yeezy now and then is no reason to add it to this article.

Aliases can alway be added, but not just any nickname. Besides, in his case it is not used often, West does in his music, but not in general. "Hello, my name is Kanye "Yeezy" West, aka the Louis Vuitton Don" doesn't seem likely now, does it? --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 19:55, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

He's not the only one to call himself "Yeezy" but even if he were I think it would be favorable to include those nicknames in the article. My reason being I know Kanye very well by those nicknames as well as other people and it would be acknowledgeable information to include. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavz4life (talk • contribs) 01:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry buddy, no dice. First, there is the fact that there have been made general agreements over stuff like this, per consensus. Second, the argument that you and other people know him by his nickname is original research. Third, Wikipedia is not a democracy, articles are edited on their best interest, not what everybody want to. So please take another look at my other arguments before replying.

And please sign your posts with ~~~~. --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 08:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

There are a number of references to Kanye West by his aliases "Yeezy" and "The Louis Vitton Don" in print and online publications. Examples in Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10732900/people_of_the_year_2004_kanye_west/print) and MTV(http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1584891/20080404/west_kanye.jhtml & http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1596254/20081003/common.jhtml). These nicknames are used comparably to the monikers "the queen of pop" for Madonna which is listed on her page.

Also, the Jim Morrison page, for example, cites also known as names. Clearly, no one would walk up to him on the street and address him as Mr. Mojo Risin', and yet it warranted inclusion in that page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.89.42.34 (talk) 15:55, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Child Rebel Soldier

Someone should write two or three sentences about Kanye and the CRS. I think in this article you must be hinted at the fact that West is founder and part of this group. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.155.249.189 (talk) 19:29, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Child Rebel Soldier has its own article, and it is linked in West's article. Per no rumoring on future events or releases, there isn't anything to mention.

AIDS for Kanye's grandmother

I really don't think that in the song Roses when he said that about Magic Johnson having a cure for HIV that he was saying that his grandmother had AIDS. The line was to point out that when regular people get sick, we don't get the same treatment as the folks with money.

Kanye's new album

I have heard rumors about a new album stirred up and I think if it should be anywhere it should be on Wikipedia first so if anyone knows..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavz4life (talk • contribs) 01:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't, because Wikipedia does not include rumors. Please take a look at the [[Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia|guidelines for future references. And sign your posts with ~~~~. --Soetermans | is listening | what he'd do now? 08:19, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

i have a source its mtv i will pull up the article the first single is "Love Lockdown" drops on Itunes Monday http://www.mtv.co.uk/channel/mtvuk/news/443833-jay-z-kanye-west-announce-singles

Arrest at LAX Airport

This morning, Kanye was arrested after getting into an altercation at the airport with paparazzi http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/11/kanye.west.arrested/index.html --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 19:14, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Still hasn't learned his lesson

There he is nearly getting into another scuffle with a paparazzo this time http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b32421_A_New_Kanye_Encounter_of_the_Paparazzi_Kind.html . Would it be alright to add it in the arrest section, especially it happened so soon after the infamous airport brawl? The police isn't pressing any charges on this one, by the way. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 01:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

He isn't pressing charges, and it looks like he barely did anything. So I wouldn't say it's important. SE KinG (talk) 03:18, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

2008

Anyone else think the bottom of Kanye's "Life and Career" needs to be split into "(2008 – Present)"?
It's just that "(2007 – Present)" is starting to get pretty big, especially in comparison to other years.
- Mysteryham (talk) 08:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

rhymefest ft. kanye

kanye is featured in a single by rhymefest called "brand new" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.118.129 (talk) 03:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Definantly not a new single. I heard that song on Wild N Out like 2 years ago. SE KinG (talk) 23:25, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

needs some changes that I cant make

there are a lot of sentences that need to be changed from a future tense to past tense. An example is in his political views section that ". . . west [is] scheduled to perform at the 20008 DNC in Denver." Just stuff of that nature that i cannot fix since the article is protected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.78.26 (talk) 21:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

What?

Fifth Studio Album, release June 09? Is This even true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.88.22 (talk) 18:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but I have been seeing the news around a bit more often: http://channelv.com.au/V/Article.aspx?ID=2517 –\•/– MysteryHam (talk) 11:06, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

"He mentioned that he does have another album coming in June and he may be singing or rapping." Taken from reference. SE KinG (talk) 11:44, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

stated in an article its "Winter Spring Summer Fall"

The Winner - Album, Remix, Compilation?

I was browsing for information pertaining to "the winner" cd that is available on amazon currently. There doesn't seem to be any info and was wondering if someone could add some info about this cd? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.209.74.243 (talk) 19:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Freshman Adjustment?

This article makes no mention of his 2006 album Freshman Adjustment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.248.126 (talk) 14:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Car Accident

I was just wondering why there isn't anything about his car accident since it nearly cost him his life and kind of changed his outlook on life? There is all this stuff about controversies and arrest and political sides, but no where is it mentioned that the guy almost died. Not even a little piece, i know people want to know about the more interesting things such as when he rants, or gets into fights at airports but cmon not even a sentence? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ELREY34 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

You have any sources mentioning this accident? --Esanchez_{(Talk 2 me or Sign here)} 19:37, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

His song Through The Wire is about his near-fatal car crash. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 01:24, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Arrested, yet AGAIN!!!

Honestly, this dude must have a problem.http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i6jM6Ew2aZzgEa6d-4OeYtb5XEWQ --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 22:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Ridiculous "Kanye" Redirection

Why on earth does the word Kanye redirect to this page? I don't care how great the guy is or how many people probably mean him when they search for Kanye; it's silly. If he only used his first name I'd understand (E.G. Madonna) but he doesn't so what's the point? Sixthcrusifix (talk) 08:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Small typo correction

I think: He was later relased "with no further action", according to a police spokesperson. was meant to be spelled: He was later released "with no further action", according to a police spokesperson. - Gideondk (talk) 01:42, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. - kollision (talk) 11:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Personal Life

The article is confusing about his relationships and engagements. Also, I believe that the names are confused. His girlfriends were Alexis Phifer and Sumeke Rainey I believe, not Alexis Rainey.Cartman005 (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

halimoj@yahoo.com

Hi i am Halimo Jeylani and i love all your song.they are so good and i just want to tell you i love lock lovedown and heart less and one you sing and you are so cute and handsome and all my family like you so much more than the other singer and they think that you are the best and evey time i listen to your music and i like you so much and keep up the good work and i hope you have the best day bye thank. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.186.64.37 (talk) 18:51, 15 December 2008 (UTC)