User talk:PeeJay

1968 European Cup Final
Event	European Cup 1962–63
Date	29 May 1968
Venue	Wembley Stadium, London
	← 1967 1969 →

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Re: difference of opinion on Ray Gravell edits

I was under the impression that the contents of the interview would be of biographical interest to people reading the article, especially with regard to his career and background. I'm new to Wikipedia, so by all means please point out where I may be infringing a guideline, but I don't think the word "immaterial" can be fairly applied. The interviewer is David Parry-Jones, the author of "The Rugby Clubs of Wales" (Ref. 1), and the interview corroborates several of the biographical details in the article.

Redshoesproductions (talk) 10:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up, I'll be more than happy to make a few factual additions to the article. As far as self-promotion goes; in the spirit of disclosure: the interview was conducted by David Parry-Jones on behalf of the Wales Video Gallery before my company was in any way involved in the charity. I immediately saw the potential of Wikipedia to make this information freely available to any and all interested parties. As far as I was aware, the interview was as material as, for example, the photo at sporting heroes and didn't require any textual content to be inserted to the article to justify making it available. I didn't think there would be anything unethical about linking to it, as I was simply providing free access to the material in line with the Deed of Trust of the charity.

Redshoesproductions (talk) 13:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. In future, I'm going to follow Shudde's suggestion and mention the link in the article's talk page, leave it to someone uninvolved to add to the article.

Redshoesproductions (talk) 08:37, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Happy First Day of Spring!

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Segunda Division 2007-08

Tom, if you could suggest any improvements for the article Segunda División 2007-08 please do so. Thanks! User:Qampunen 7:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

UEFA Cup

I have no idea how to use the talk page, so i think its here? but anyway i've linked it in the talk discussion page of the main uefa cup page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fadiga09 (talk • contribs)

RE:Template:Welsh Premier League seasons

Sorry if you were wondering what was going on. I had problems with the templates and had to rename one as two templates were just duplicating themselves. I have ameded this now and there is now two season sections. One is League of Wales and the other is Welsh Premier League. Onshore

Although the league changed in 2002? Also I didn't try to delete the League of Wales seasons as it was in use until 2002. I had to change League of Wales seasons to League of Wales seasons (1992-2002) because it was duplicating the information with Welsh Premier League seasons Onshore

Okay fair point. Well it's now says "League of Wales / Welsh Premier League" hope you have no objections to this? and we'll leave it at that Onshore

So what is going to happen when the Welsh Premier League is split into two divisions in a few seasons from now? Onshore P.S. I'll leave the navbox as it is because at this rate it would have just blown out as a fude or something

Also Thank You for sorting out the caregories, it was taking me ages trying to change it to League of Wales :-) Onshore

Transfers

Hi. I was just wondering why you deleted my list of the 2007/08 Premier League highest transfers.

Ok no problem

Tottenham Hotspur

so why can't the badge be used...when in the club season football infobox there is a section labelled "logo =" and the description being "{{{logo}}} — The club logo."?

FC Shortcuts

Just a quick tip for you. The next time you wish to link a football club all you need to do is type {{fc|Team Name}} rather than the full name. I did that on the Derby County record. NoseNuggets (talk) 1:46 PM US EDT May 14 2008

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Segunda Division 2007-08

Tom, if you could suggest any improvements for the article Segunda División 2007-08 please do so. Thanks! User:Qampunen 7:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

UEFA Cup

I have no idea how to use the talk page, so i think its here? but anyway i've linked it in the talk discussion page of the main uefa cup page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fadiga09 (talk • contribs)

RE:Template:Welsh Premier League seasons

Sorry if you were wondering what was going on. I had problems with the templates and had to rename one as two templates were just duplicating themselves. I have ameded this now and there is now two season sections. One is League of Wales and the other is Welsh Premier League. Onshore

Although the league changed in 2002? Also I didn't try to delete the League of Wales seasons as it was in use until 2002. I had to change League of Wales seasons to League of Wales seasons (1992-2002) because it was duplicating the information with Welsh Premier League seasons Onshore

Okay fair point. Well it's now says "League of Wales / Welsh Premier League" hope you have no objections to this? and we'll leave it at that Onshore

So what is going to happen when the Welsh Premier League is split into two divisions in a few seasons from now? Onshore P.S. I'll leave the navbox as it is because at this rate it would have just blown out as a fude or something

Also Thank You for sorting out the caregories, it was taking me ages trying to change it to League of Wales :-) Onshore

Transfers

Hi. I was just wondering why you deleted my list of the 2007/08 Premier League highest transfers.

Ok no problem

Tottenham Hotspur

so why can't the badge be used...when in the club season football infobox there is a section labelled "logo =" and the description being "{{{logo}}} — The club logo."?

FC Shortcuts

Just a quick tip for you. The next time you wish to link a football club all you need to do is type {{fc|Team Name}} rather than the full name. I did that on the Derby County record. NoseNuggets (talk) 1:46 PM US EDT May 14 2008

exactly

what do you mean what do you mean by exactly, i was agreeing you were right dipshit

Dr. Richard Hawkins

Hey Peejay, I've provided a link on the Manchester United discussion page. I was just browsing through the Sheffield United website and it stated that he left Sheff Utd to join Man Utd on March 9th 2008.

consulrjo 20:41 7 June 2008 (BST)

Tottenham Hotspur

Barcelona have confirmed that Giovani dos Santos has signed with Tottenham and will join the club on the 1st of July. Michael 7:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice job

You're doing a really fantastic job keeping the various Euro 2008-related articles up-to-date and clean. Keep it up! JACOPLANE • 2008-06-10 16:30

Why is BBC always wrong? Where's Nery Castillo playing next season?

BBC is even worse than ESPN, they told us that Peter Crouchs deal was about 11 million. I have a question about Nery Castillo regarding next season. Is Castillo going to return to Shaktar Donetsk next season or did he ofically transfer to Manchester City. I'm a little confused right now about that and you're the one who knows everything and I just want to know what's going on next season regarding Nery Castillo.

Mikemor92 8:54pm Pacific Time, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Fabio

I've been writing articles for 5 years on Wiki and that's not how I interpret the spirit of wiki - you will find lots of reserve team players on here so how do you justify this decision? Theo Walcott was a prime example and I could point out lots of examples

David Healy

What is wrong with the David Healy page of his international carrer if you merge it with the main page it makes the list longer.

last comment

'You should also realise that they didn't use the same formation in every match'. What am I supposed to know. my opinion is that scolari always used a 5-3-2 formation with Brazil and yet you criticize me for not knowing. I take it you are another one of the upper class snobs in wikipedia who claim to be right about everything.

formation for Brazil.

have a look at formation (association football) on wikipedia and have a look at 3-5-2 and you will see Brazil 2002 World Cup winner played it all the way throughout the tournament. Ronaldinho played as a central midfielder and Rivaldo played as a striker alongside Ronaldo and Cafu and Roberto Carlos played as wingers.

yep I was right about you. you are an arrogant upper class snob who claims to know everything like everyone on wikipedia. just because people get things wrong you like to put people down by showing off your arrogance.

enforcing policy!!!! why are u involved with people who want to make people be wrong all the time and writing u should do this and that and effectively saying ha you're wrong and I'm right and I am the best because I am a computer master with wikipedia who has got A's and B's in computer science or whatever and there is nothing u can do about it. why mate? why be involved with nasty people like that.

alplogy accepted. at least there is some decent human beings around.

Taskforce on Association Football Variants

PeeJay, we would like you to become a member of the Football Variants Taskforce of WikiProject Football.

Hello PeeJay, it is nice to meet you. I came across your page when I went through the list of people who had edited articles in this category about Football variants, and I wondered if you were intrested in joining a new taskforce that covers this category, as we are looking for members. Thank you for your time - DeMoN2009

James Cairns (con't)

Ok, I'll do the article on the full back James Cairns. Both the Stretford End and MUFCInfo agree on the debut for that James Cairns. Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 21:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that information! I still haven't gotten anything back from the MUFCInfo website regarding where they get their information from. Patken4 (talk) 23:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blackpool FC article categories

Do you still want someone to make a wikibot to put the Blackpool F.C. articles into categories like you suggested here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Category:Blackpool_F.C._seasons ? I've been thinking about making a wikibot recently and think this might be a good one to start with. Schultr4 (talk) 05:11, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, so you just want me to make a bot that replaces

[[Category:Blackpool F.C. seasons]] with [[Category:Blackpool F.C. seasons|year of season]]

Schultr4 (talk) 07:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've created the bot using the .NET wikibot framework and submitted a request for approval here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/BlackPoolFCBot —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schultr4 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, my bot has run and all the sort keys have been added. Please write something on my talk page if you find any issues.Schultr4 (talk) 19:38, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Murphy (footballer)

I've expanded the Jimmy Murphy (footballer) article a bit and added his WBA playing stats. I've made a couple of corrections (his place of birth and when he joined Albion) so if these conflict with your sources please let me know and we can discuss and maybe footnote if necessary.

I noticed you changed his DoB from 27 October 1910 to 8 August 1910. My WBA-based sources have his DoB as 27 October 1910 though, so I was wondering where you got this info from? Cheers. --Jameboy (talk) 15:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tevez loan

I noticed you removed my cited loan, on the Tevez article, saying "it is not a loan. you cannot be on loan from a company". Please note that football clubs are companys, and while not on loan from West Ham he is on from Kia Joorabchian (MSI). You can be on loan from companys per all these reliable sources. [1][2][3] And more recently (this week) [4][5][6]. I think this is quite strong evidence that he is on loan.

Best wishes, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of English football transfers winter 2008–09

We have a mess on the list I need help. – Michael (talk) 19:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

United New Serbians

As per this reliable source [7], it confirms the loanig of the player back to Partizan. Please update it yourself. Universal Hero (talk) 12:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you need to read the reference again? – Michael (talk) 16:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CL 2008 Edits

1. a lot of material was not relevant ot the match (and hence the article). 'reactions' was an open ended section that drifted off into things that had nothing to do with the match. this is an article on the 2008 final, not the whole 2008 CL, the city of moscow, or what arsene wenger, capello or joe bloggs said about the result. 2. the road to the final is given in the CL 07/08 article itself. extensively. 3. the intro needed tidying - how is the teams that play at the Luzniki stadium relevant to the match and the article?

i've explained most of the edits briefly, please use the talk page to discuss further.

Jw2035 (talk) 21:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When writing an article, the writer should assume that the reader knows nothing of the subject. Obviously, in this case, this doesn't mean explaining what football is, what the Champions League is, etc., but it should require a short explanation of how the teams got to the final, a short piece about the match itself (as a concept) and its marketing/branding, and the aftermath with respect to the two teams. That is what we have at 2008 UEFA Champions League Final, and I think it's rather well done. It could do with a little trimming in the "Road to the final" section, but other than that, I believe you went a bit OVER THE TOP with your edits. – PeeJay 21:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

explanaton of how the teams got there is in the CL 07/08 article. the match summary is unaltered and ok. 'aftermath' is too open ended - you could have reactions from everyone and anyone; look at articles on european cup finals from 20 years ago - do they record the reactions of minor journos, managers who werent even there, etc.. no they don't. quotes from the managers present, players, etc. may have a place here, but it's scope should be strictly limited - what was there simply rambled! it is not necessary to explain what the champions league is, where the logo came from (that's not a new thing btw), who plays at the ground, what a coincidence everthign is, who roman abramovich is and where he comes from, etc...see my point! Jw2035 (talk) 21:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

besides, using the last 20 years worth of finals as a template, i could have justifiably pruned 2008, 2007, 2006 and 2005 down to along the lines of 2002, 2001, 2000 and so on. one paragraph, match summary and the teams is all that is really required Jw2035 (talk) 22:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

yes, 2007 was a featured article. and guess what? no 'reactions' or 'aftermath' ramble. route to the final is a paragraph and a table. sectioned match summary. no cruft about who plays where, 'coincidences' or what abramovich had for breakfast. read the article and then have a look at my edits - i've brought the 05 and 08 articles far closer to the format of the 07 article and removed an awful lot of unnecessary and irrelevant trivia. please do not revert again without using the talk page Jw2035 (talk) 13:51, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

look, i'm sure you've worked very had on these articles, adding fascinating lists of 'coincidences', 'reactions', 'quotes from wenger' 'what abramovich thinks' etc... but I'm working to the featured article 2007 which has none of this. this is not your pet page. either edit constructively or i'll just keep reverting Jw2035 (talk) 17:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

just because 2 other people also disagree doesnt make the article any less crappy with the above elements. the others have been willing to discuss the final articles - you have simply reverted, often without explanation. Jw2035 (talk) 17:41, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ok, i'll remake the edits one by one, and you can object if you see fit Jw2035 (talk) 17:49, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

well, happily, wikipedia has a history page and i've even taken the trouble to number the edits. all are perfectly justifiable. you are simply protecting 'your article' now. either be civil, be constructive or find somethign else to work on Jw2035 (talk) 18:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to request your input at an attempt to moderate this dispute. Oldelpaso (talk) 18:01, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adem Ljajić

How can he be on loan from Manchester United if he's 17? Good question. The answer is that he can and he is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddyji999 (talk • contribs) 23:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To Eddy, check Article 4. He cannot register until his 18th birthday, and both BBC and Manchester United websites state that he will not join the team until 2009-10. FIFA regulations. – LATICS talk 23:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll choose to write here in the middle of this little edit war (this might have to be discussed at WP:FOOTY), but at least one reliable source (uefa.com) say he's be loaned back to Partizan [8]. — chan dler — 23:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/administration/regulations_on_the_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf

Article 19, Protection of minors

1. International transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18.

2. The following three exceptions to this rule apply:

a)...

b) The transfer takes place within the territory of the European Union (EU) or European Economic Area (EEA) and the player is aged between 16 and 18. In this case, the new club must fulfi l the following minimum obligations:

i) It shall provide the player with an adequate football education and/or training in line with the highest national standards.

ii) It shall guarantee the player an academic and/or school and/or vocational education and/or training, in addition to his football education and/or training, which will allow the player to pursue a career other than football should he cease playing professional football.

iii) It shall make all necessary arrangements to ensure that the player is looked after in the best possible way (optimum living standards with a host family or in club accommodation, appointment of a mentor at the club, etc.).

iv) It shall, on registration of such a player, provide the relevant association with proof that it is complying with the aforementioned obligations;

c)...

In this case, Man United has provided all of the above by leaving him with his parents in his own country with his original club. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddyji999 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

still i must apologize, you are right —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddyji999 (talk • contribs) 07:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ok the official premier league site shows that ljajic transfered to united and was loaned back to russia Eddyji999 (talk) 13:11, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting and linking of dates

Hi PeeJay, I noticed that you relinked dates in the English football transfers articles, citing the fact that they need to be linked for the sorting to work. I understand your concern; I implemented dates that are sorted and unlinked into List of English football transfers winter 2008–09 using the {{dts}} template. Could I ask you to consider doing the same for List of English football transfers summer 2008? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 16:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, sorry. I will investigate further before delinking those dates again. Sorry for the confusion. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rob McKinnon

Hi PeeJay, where did you find out that Rob McKinnon played on loan at Man Utd - the Post War English & Scottish Football League A - Z Player's Database says he never played for them...Regards, Giant Snowman 16:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, I've unverted my revert (if that makes sense...) and added that he never made a first team appearance. Cheers, Giant Snowman 16:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Beckham

While he is not registered as a Milan player yet he technically has played a game for the club and therefore surely the category: A.C. Milan players is correct ? ManfromDelmonte (talk) 21:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tunisian Ligue Professionnelle 1 2008-09

I was just wondering why have you removed all the logos from the page? BYF079: "Faïcel Ben Yedder" (talk) 14:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC) You said: "Because logos are only allowed on Wikipedia under a Fair Use rationale, which their use on the Tunisian league page would not qualify for. – PeeJay 14:20, 8 January 2009 (UTC)"[reply]

Can you explain why so. Since this still fall within the usage category.

USMNT Roster

I've started a discussion on Talk:United States men's national soccer team regarding the club names on the roster. I'd rather everyone discuss it here than to continue re-editing one another. I don't disagree with you, but we need to hash it out in order to avoid an edit war, which it seems has been going on for a couple of weeks now. JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 16:01, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

consensus building

As a user who responded to the straw poll regarding non-free images in sports, your further input is requested with regards to the Straw poll summary and proposed guidelines on image use — BQZip01 — ^talk 00:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Cliff

Without reading all the United sections again I can't be sure, but I don't think it has anything more. When I am king all non-fiction books will have indexes. I was a little surprised it has an article, but given its use as a rugby league ground combined with its use by United I don't object. The most likely book to have more information will be Simon Inglis' Played In Manchester. I got it out from the library when I was getting City of Manchester Stadium ready for FAC; it details pretty much every sports venue ever to have existed in Manchester. Oldelpaso (talk) 12:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm slowly –very slowly– adding material to Frank Swift with a view to getting it to GA. If you're currently working on Munich, any chance you could add any bits and pieces you have about Swift's last hours to his article? Oldelpaso (talk) 08:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the split you performed

Please, check WP Talk:FOOTY. —Lesfer ^(t/c/@) 15:00, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So, when are you going to undo the changes? —Lesfer ^(t/c/@) 00:50, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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2006 UEFA Champions League Final Image

Hey PeeJay sorry to bother you but is there any chance you could reduce the size of this image please, as at the moment it is too large, and I don't have the tools to do this, Cheers. NapHit (talk) 14:20, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Premier League season articles

Hi PeeJay, I was wondering whether you had any ideas about how to cleanup the season articles for the Premier League because at the moment they seem to follow completely different standards. For example, some give season summaries for each of the teams (but in some cases, as for the review for Arsenal in 2002-03, they are much longer than all the others and Charlton do not even have a one line review). Some give statistics and others don't, the leads are of completely different lengths etc. I added the rest of the results for the 2002-03 article and feel this needs to be done for all the other articles. What are your ideas? Cheers. 03md (talk) 19:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough - I've got an exam tomorrow but should be able to make some improvements after that. Do you know any other Football wikiproject editors who may be able to help. 03md (talk) 22:11, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know anywhere that I can get free images from the 2002-03 season - I saw you had removed mine from the page for being 'non-free'. 03md (talk) 20:41, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The stadiums/stadia argument

My OED is from 1974 but the English language's pluralisation techniques has not change in the past 34 years. Melinywig (talk) 20:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you can prove to me, by your OED, that stadium comes from latin and only latin then i shall concede to your "stadia" My 1974 OED and everyone i've asked agrees with me, some of them studying latin. i know people get confused about words from latin like some saying "a bacteria" when they mean "a bacterium" but i am not one of them. Melinywig (talk) 22:15, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then My argument stands tall. Greek works adopted into Latin do not decline the same way in Latin as normal Latin words. The word is Greek and therefore the plural is stadiums. Melinywig (talk) 22:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you ever considered that the word isn't second declesion Latin? In fact if it is a borrowed word it is more likely to be a masculine word in the third declension and therefore will not decline stadium/-um/-i/-o/-i/-a/-a/-orum/-is/-is. (Yeah i know my Latin) Besides what you said is that the word is Greek so we have borrowed it from Greek and therefore it pluralises in the way we want it to, which is usually by adding an "s". Melinywig (talk) 22:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But it isn't tradition to do pluralise that way. If the word is from Latin then and only then should it pluralise the way you think it does. The word is Greek and therefore does not pluralise like a Latin word. Melinywig (talk) 22:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

kk Melinywig (talk) 22:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know, I was under the impression "stadium" was Latin and hence declines "stadia" in the plural. The Greek word is "stadion" which also declines "stadia" in the plural. Peanut4 (talk) 23:10, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sir Alex's Height

Hi there,

I see you are quite active on the Man Utd page. I would like to point your attention to this discussion here. I added his height as 5'7 from what I thought was a reliable source [see info box], but having seen photos of him with players I think this is disputable. Do you think you could find out his height with a reliable source?

Many thanks DFS454 (talk) 21:39, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

a or an?

"The Football Conference is a football league in England" from it's article... "The X is a <sport> league" has to be the correct way to go? — CHAN DLER ^#10 — 00:59, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wouldn't it be the same as "a elephant cage", that doesn't sound wrong to me, though that might be because i'm not native in english. Perhaps [[Association football|football]] it like in the article? — CHAN DLER ^#10 — 01:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CONCACAF

If you're going to revert the template, please also change the whole article to reflect this, so as to have consistency. The reason I reverted the template was because I layed the article out in compliance with that. So if you're going to change one, change the other as well. Thanks. -- Grant .Alpaugh 01:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

3RR on United States men's national soccer team

Please revert your last change to United States men's national soccer team as it was your fourth revert to the article in only a few hours. -- Grant .Alpaugh 01:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Following the name of the article would use Stade Rennais instead of Rennes, therefore your rv is in violation of 3RR. This is no different from my block for edit warring. -- Grant .Alpaugh 01:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey the OED from 1974 siad that sadiums is the correct plural. don't know when your's is from butt all of the english agree with my stadiums. i do not believ that the word stadium is derived form latin, if it is and you can prove it i shall concede. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Melinywig (talk • contribs) 22:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Munich air disaster

Hey, looking at the article, it looks like all of the points have been taken care of except for one I made about Cantona; the sentence: "From then on, it seemed to some that the match had ceased to be primarily a tribute to the Busby Babes and more about Cantona." - is a very bold assertion by an encyclopaedia. I think it needs to become "...was criticised by the press as ceasing being primarily a tribute to the Busby Babes, and more a testimonial to Cantona." This would need to be sourced, I'm going to assume that source 52 covers it. It's one of those which seems obvious to those of us who actually follow English football, but needs some external verification for WP:OR grounds. I also want to say thta I'm not looking at the article on prose grounds, as I consider that my weak point, so you may want to ask for some feedback on readability etc. from those experienced in the area of FAs. Also, you might want to look at this a few times over, as I've just come back from the pub. Best wishes, and I hope this makes FA! – Toon ^(talk) 01:45, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1983 FA Cup final

Is it right now? That's at least how I did on the 1974 European Cup Final, I might have forgotten to add those last parameters in the docs. — CHAN DLER ^#10 — 15:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can do that, but will you see which team won as clear then? — CHAN DLER ^#10 — 15:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Manucho/en dashes/email

I'm assuming you haven't gotten around to this, but Manucho is not on the 2008-09 page.

Thanks for the knowledge on the en vs. em dashes.

Also, please email me. I have something to share with you, but I don't want it to go public yet. I can't find the link to do so.

Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 15:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wembley Cup Final Templates

I propose you use your template and you could replace these templates which are on Wembley Stadium (1923)

Every Wembley Cup Final should have this templete

I will go up the 1969 FA Cup Final at put in the details when I finish the job.

I have done 1923-1962 could you check the useless parts but keep the Wembley picture because it shows you the groud with the final.

I agree but when i get to the 2008 FA Cup Final it will be England v Wales.

Cardiff City v Portsmouth

Eligibility

If Andrei Arshavin were to sign with Arsenal, which will likely happen, and he already played for Zenit St. Petersburg in the Champions League this season, would he still be eligible to play for Arsenal in the knockout stages of the Champions League? – Michael (talk) 23:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Differences between Manchester United F.C. season 1903–04 and 1903–04 in English football

PJ, as I was looking at this article, I notice there are a few small differences between Manchester United F.C. season 1903–04 and 1903–04 in English football. 1 is the colors. One grey, the other orange. 2. in the MUFC articles, it's Aresenal, in the English football it's Woolwich Arsenal, which do you prefer. Thanks, Calebrw (talk) 04:54, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the names of the 3 clubs you mentioned in my project, but not on the WP page. I'll check both 1902–03 and 1903–04 later to see if they have been updated. PS: Cheer on ManUtd for me. Calebrw (talk) 14:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Highest transfer fees received

Looking at the Highest Transfers received section, should a reference to Mikel John Obi be added, even if it isn't added to the table? Thanks! Patken4 (talk) 17:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Black

I'm afraid there isn't - the nearest is a "Sammy Black" who played for Arsenal, Plymouth and Southend in the 1930s. Mattythewhite (talk) 08:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Cleverley

FYI, It looks like Tom Cleverley came on as a sub for Leicester City, at least according to Soccernet.com. Patken4 (talk) 22:21, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Javier Mascherano

I know that Mascherano was owned by MSI but since he signed a permanent deal with Liverpool for £18.6m, should his name be on the Template:2008–09 in English football? – Michael (talk) 02:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What's the difference, I mean Bosingwa's name is on the template and so is Luka Modrić's and there transfers occured before the transfer period began as well. – Michael (talk) 22:38, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FA Cup 2008–09

Do you think it is best to keep the 5th Round, 6th Round and Semi Final Articles?

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Pro Evolution Soccer 2009

Why are you making a big deal about sales inclusion? If you want to know why North American, PAL region, etc. sales are not included, maybe you should ask every single user who did not look for this information. You are not listening at all - there is no bias in including only Japanese information unless it serves to prevent other information from being included. If you want that information, you may find it. Information does not have to be neutral - why don't you remove the review table, since it only has English sources? - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 20:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When there is ZERO sales information besides that, removing the only sales information is doing nothing but harming the article. It doesn't matter if it was the worst selling game of the year, it still is reception and should be listed. You fail to establish that at any point it would be inappropriate to include. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Single-match templates and layout

Hey,

Regarding this revert - I've got to admit that I didn't know we had a prevailing style here, but is it documented anywhere? Much of that section looks like it should be combined into a template. Could you give me some examples of other articles which follow that layout and I'll see whether I can whip one up? Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!

Thanks for adding the license tag on File:Carling Cup logo 2008-09.gif. Much appreciated. --Mosmof (talk) 17:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]