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Discussion of Canada's official name

Canada's name
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The article states that "Beginning in the late 15th century, British and French expeditions explored. . ." The Kingdom of Great Britain was created in the eighteenth century. Shouldn't this state "English and French expeditions?" Can anyone back this up?

Head of State

Why isn't there a picture of the Canadian Head of State on the main page? I think there should be. Afterall, she is the head of state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muckish (talkcontribs) 00:15, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Montage

Do you guys think it would be suitable to put a montage for the Canada page? The country is pretty large with different landscapes and such

Hi are there any Canadians here who can help me as to what truce terms Canadian children did or do use - preferably with sources! A truce term is a word used by children in games, usually under the age of about 11, to call a temporary halt to the game because they need to tie a shoelace or go to the loo or argue some point about the rules or something.Fainites barleyscribs 16:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The traditional call to temporarily halt a game of street hockey is "Car!" (i.e., a warning that a car is approaching and that the players should vacate the street), and I've seen this jokingly extended to other contexts. However, in most situations, "Time out!", "Time!", "T.O.!", or simply "T.!" (and occassionally the accompanying 'T' hand-sign) are used. I live in Southern Ontario, so there may be other regional variations I'm not yet aware of. EhSeuss (talk) 18:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. In the US time-out and variants has pretty much supplanted the old terms as well. I'd love to know what terms the Canadians used to use before the advent of timed televised sports. You don't happen to have the Canadian Oxford Dictionary handy do you? There may well be an entry. Fainites barleyscribs 21:01, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1775 american invasion

I think this article should definitely at least mention the 1775 American Invasion, especially since the American nearly successed in taking over the colony before the british reinforcements came. It is also interesting to note that this invasion took place before the American Declaration of Independance was made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.191.155.98 (talk) 12:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Terms

DEFINITIONS:

Safe, to say as times change definitions change also... Canada not only is a country, but is also an american term of a country in America, who's inhabitants are loyal to the British Crown, just like a Canadian is the american term for a loyaist of the British Empire in America.

I would just like to say that "Canada" can be, as well as "Canadian" be used to describe this article and can include such terms if need be or wanted as american types.

So, considering this the article can read for example...

Canada (pronounced /ˈkænədə/) is the american country in the British Empire occupying most of northern North America, extending from the Atlantic Ocean in the east to the Pacific Ocean in the west and northward.. so on and such forth.

And remember, we are all Americans in this Continent.

Kind Regards, American(Can) (talk) 18:22, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Canada is part of the British Empire? News to me...Dbrodbeck (talk) 12:16, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm affraid so, also Canada has it's own American thing going, so I would include such terms. American(Can) (talk) 09:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Show me a reference to Canada belonging to the British Empire, one that is newer than say 1931... Dbrodbeck (talk) 11:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Forget the British Empire, it's illrelevant to the discussion. My point is that Canada is an American country like Germany is a European country like China is an Asian country. It is disrespectfull and misleading not to include "what type of country" Canada is. Also, it is a better descriptive term then to say just somewhere in Northern North America.

Is Canada a European country, or a Russian country since it's so far north in Northern North America? No, it's an American country and we'd like to express that. Kind Regards, American(Can) (talk) 20:15, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most Canadians wear European-style clothing, eat a European-style diet, speak European languages, have a European form of government, European forms of legal system and European ancestors. The only American bit seems to be the location. Mind you I suppose that you could say the same things about the USA. Maybe the truth is that they are both European settlements in North America. -- Derek Ross | Talk 20:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are right. They are both European settlements in North America. (persay) Now, considering North America all citizens and countries of North America are American otherwise North America wouldn't be North America and also would not exist as North America if it were any other way. You can't have America, North America or South America without it's American inhabitants. So, as North American countries are, such as Canada, USA, and Mexico the citizens are American, otherwise it would not exist.

Just think of Europe, are any European countries exempt from being European? No, because they would not be in Europe. Same goes for America, no country in America is exempt from being American. Kind Regards, American(Can) (talk) 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion in not a useful discussion. No reliable source calls Canada an American country and thus advocating for its use here is original research and not permissible. Regards, -- Jeff3000 (talk) 04:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Calling a Canadian an non-American is like calling a Canadian un-canadian which would be liable to get you into a fist-de-cuff. Remember, there are NO EXCEPTIONS to Canada being an American country and/or it's citizens being American. It is a plain centuries old knowledge and usage. If it is the fact that Canada is in America offends you that is a personal porogative issue and has nothing to do with original research. Regards, American(Can) (talk) 08:52, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if that is the case, no reliable source calls the United States of America an American country as well and thus advocating for its use here is original research and not permissible. Remember, we are all Americans in this continent. If Canada is not in America, North America and Northern America and not an American country there shall be no such thing as America, as it would not exist. Regards, American(Can) (talk) 09:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Canada showing, is clearly in America and an American country.

American(Can) (talk) 09:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think we need a map to proove Canada is in America, the Americas, North America and Northern America and therefore American by virtue of. American(Can) (talk) 10:06, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, is there a point to these discussions? Canada is in North America, already mentioned, and there is a map showing it's location. Canterbury Tail talk 10:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! The point is, as a Canadian Citizen, my country Canada and myself are American by virtue of America. American(Can) (talk) 10:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no point continuing this discussion. Americancan, if you are in earnest, then take note that the precedent set in Wikipedia is to describe countries as occupying an area rather than by an adjective derived from the continent. You say Canada should be described as American, just as Germany is described as European and China as Asian. Well, take a look at the articles for those countries. "Germany is a country in central Europe." "China is [...] [an] entity extending over a large area in East Asia." Hence, "Canada is a country occupying most of northern North America." OK? p.s. Canada is a Commonwealth realm, not a part of the British Empire. Hadrian89 (talk) 11:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. We'll just assume Canada is in America and leave it at that, while others assume Canada is in northern North America as you suggested outside the American realm. American(Can) (talk) 13:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, what?? What is the 'American realm'? I know I said to discontinue the discussion, but you have now completely confused me. Hadrian89 (talk) 16:43, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, for not being technical. I mean't outside it's own American realm. Kind Regards, American(Can) (talk) 04:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Canada is not in America (i.e. United States). Canada is in North America, or if you prefer 'the Americas' (when including South America). GoodDay (talk) 14:54, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This entire matter is already dealt with at American (word). --Miesianiacal (talk) 15:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it is an American (word) and doesn't matter anyway, Canada as a different country in America (The Americas) North America, or wherever in America you want to place it, Canada still shares the same nationality as the rest of the countries in The Americas, as fellow Americans by nationality. (Canadian by Ethnicity) Kind Regards, American(Can) (talk) 01:53, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]