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June 2008

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No no no

Please read the manual of style and our Ownership of articles page. I know you're new, but please, there are ways we do this. Also, all of the images of the page are now on the Wikimedia Commons, and there is a link to more pictures in the article. The images can now be accessed from a page linkedViperSnake151 19:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Re: Your note

Hi, you said

You have to keep in mind that Vidhan Soudha doesn't come under the skyline category. The UB City is the the business hub of Bangalore. Vidhansoudha is the legislative building and doesn't symbolise the importance bangalore business importance in India and the World. What I prepose is to fill the skyline like how it is done on the London article. In which both Vidhan Soudha and UB City can be represented in the same skyline spot

So what? The question isn't about whether Vidhana Soudha comes under the "skyline" category, the question is what image should represent Bangalore in the infobox. I would venture that a contest for that position between Vidhana Soudha and any other building in Bangalore is a no-contest. The Vidhana Soudha is simply the most well known building in the city. Contrary to your claim, the UB City is NOT the business hub of Bangalore. The London article is not a featured article, so its a little hard for me to draw inspiration from it. Unfortunately, UB City is just not representative of Bangalore. Thanks AreJay (talk) 00:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Because

your additions read like you are writing a travel guide - we write with a neutral tone and make use of reliable sources. Please read the MOS --Allemandtando (talk) 17:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then get to work cleaning them up - the fact that ten other pisspoor article exists is not an excuse or reason to create another one. --Allemandtando (talk) 17:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


How can I put this politely? I've never read that page, I don't plan to read that page. I've read our MOS and that's my guide - weasel words and unsourced inference are a no-no regardless of where else they are used. --Allemandtando (talk) 17:46, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


your edits

I've moved your proposed edits to my sandbox - and will have a look at that in a bit. --Allemandtando (talk) 17:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agni 3 Range image

Hi, thanks for sending me that message. I created the range pic based on official government information, which states that Agni-3 has a "range greater than 3500 km" and payload of 1.5 tons. Based on that, I have given the ranges.

The range will increase if the payload reduces, but for now, I'd stick to official Government of India information.

The Bharat-rakshak analysis is quite good, and i have interacted with the author of that study. however, the analysis, while most likely accurate, is an outside analysis, and has scope for error. Best to keep official info. Cheers. Sniperz11@CS 08:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cruise missiles and ballistic missiles

You'll note that the article about the Brahmos weapon states that it's a cruise missile, not a ballistic missile. The two are very different beasts since the cruise is under propulsion for the majority of free flight, whereas the ballistic has an initial burn, then is unpowered until a mid flight second or third stage which injects further power. Given that the Brahmos is a cruise missile, and not a ballistic missile I'll remove it again.

x-posting this to the article talk page.

ALR (talk) 16:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ATV

Already there exists an article on the Advanced Technology Vessel.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 10:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

INS Chakra

The present INS Chakra is a Akula class sub, whereas the one that was decommissioned was the Charlie class. The image that you added was that of the old one. I had corrected it. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 11:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]


In Reply

Yes, but there are also many factors that preclude it from exercising influence on an international level. In any case, it is not for you or I to argue her merits. Established scholars have commented thoroughly on this topic and we are going by their consensus. Have a great day. Nirvana888 (talk) 05:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great power help

Hey Enthusiat, I was hoping I could get your help improving the great power article. It was nominated to be a good article, and is now on hold. It's being improved so that it will qualify. There's a lot to be done, and I was hoping I could get your help and improving the article. Thanks in advance. Best wishes. --Hobie (talk) 19:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ABM WMD's?

Who told you that ABM's are weapons of Mass destruction. ABM's take out delivery systems of WMD's. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 02:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WMD's are weapons that kill large number of people. That's WMD's are Nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. Not even missiles qualify as WMD's since they are weapon delivery systems.

Your addition of Radars and ABM's into the list need to be removed because it did not fall under WMD's.

Chanakyathegreat (talk) 02:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Russian Edit Warring

Hey Enthusiast, I just wanted to let you know that there's been another eruption of POV pushing at the superpower page. It appears that it might be the infamous Versace 11 stirring trouble again, but we don't know for sure. One user appeared out of the blue one day, acting like he had been monitoring the situation for a while, and provides a huge number of substandard sources. They then went on to add Russia as a superpower to the article. I removed, and there's been a debate going on for a little while now. We've rounded up everybody, and me, Nirvana, Zebulin, and Deavanger have been hashing it out. We're concerned about the ramifications of this new upwelling and how to handle it. There's a convo on my talk page if you want the abbreviated version. All the best! --Hobie (talk) 02:36, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 2008

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. --Flash176 (talk) 17:37, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UB City

Hey,

Ive started a discussion about adding a UB City image since AreJay deleted your addition. Please add your opinion. ThanksNikkul (talk) 06:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Already added

The patrolling info has has been added.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 13:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

hey Enthusiast. I don't think we met before, but I'm a member on the PIIR wikiproject. From what I can tell, you're still listed as an active member. Are you still an active member on the project? Deavenger (talk) 20:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Just wondering.Deavenger (talk) 00:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HAL Tejas

Thank you for your question regarding whether the Tejas is operational. I am a professional defense aerospace analyst, so, yes, I follow such matters closely. The traditional qualification for being “in service” is when the first operational unit achieves “Initial Operational Capability” (IOC) with full-production examples. There is a process followed in a military aircraft’s entering service that is not well-understood among the general public. First, a training unit will “stand up” (without aircraft) to prepare for the receipt of aircraft and to develop a training syllabus for instructor pilots and support personnel. Next, the first aircraft will be received and accepted – what is known as “induction” in Indian parlance – but this is not the same thing as IOC. IOC occurs when sufficient full-production-standard aircraft have been received by an operational squadron (a fighter squadron in this case) and the pilots and ground crews are sufficiently trained to perform their basic missions on their new aircraft; when this first unit is declared operationally ready, the aircraft type will have achieved IOC. When they have achieved a satisfactory level of skill the full range of mission responsibilities and shown that the aircraft adequately performs them, then it achieves “Full Operational Capability” (FOC).

At this point in time, HAL has not yet finished delivering its “pre-series” examples, the Limited Series Production (LSP) aircraft. LSP aircraft differ from production-standard aircraft in that each LSP is different from every other example; they help the engineers and manufacturers to remedy problems and improve the design’s “producibility”. LSP-2 first flew this past June, LSP-3 & 4 are due by year’s end, and the remaining four in the first half of next year. LSP-3 is reported to be “near-production standard”. Induction of the first of 20 Full Production examples currently on order is planned to begin later in 2009 or early in 2010; IOC is planned for 2011.

Furthermore, the Tejas is not a Generation 4.5 design; design generation is not a matter of IOC dates or whether one or a few of the latest technologies have been integrated, but rather an issue of design approach, and the Tejas’ drawn-out term of development has slipped its service entrance to when nations with more advanced aerospace industries are producing Gen 4.5 aircraft and designing Gen 5 fighters. You can find more information on the talk pages of the Fighter aircraft and HAL Tejas articles. Best regards, Askari Mark (Talk) 04:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I changed your voting textbox a little to make concensus easier. We should get support for replacing the image first. Then we can decide on which image to use. Hope you dont mind. Nikkul (talk) 17:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Enthusiast! Please see here for detailed information on what kind of copyrighted images are acceptable on Wikipedia under the "fair use" banner. This particular image would fail the criteria because though it might be impossible to get an exact replica of the image, it is still possible for a photo of the skyline to be taken. Besides, this photo has no historic value, and the articles it were added to does not even discuss the subject matter of the image. Please go through the link, and let me know in case you are still confused. Let this not deter your enthusiasm. :) Happy editing!--thunderboltz(TALK) 20:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Do you mean you want me to unprotect his talk page? I don't see why you need him unblocked for that unless he can't respond to your inquiries. Daniel Case (talk) 02:10, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that's what you meant. The block has expired and he's editing again, so I lifted the protection. Daniel Case (talk) 02:13, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Details on the missiles

I am puzzled by you adding some information on Brahmos-IB in the Brahmos page. You also said that Brahmos-IB is different from Brahmos-II. There is no source to quote for this information. Please don't post any information without properly sourcing it. Also I would like you to correct the Ship-to-air to Air-to-land.

Regarding Nirbhay, no specific date has been announced. From open source, it's in 2009. No information on the Agni-III SLBM test. So the ATV will be carrying Sagarika for the time being. Also Prasun's blog has some info. He claims that the ATV is an experimental submarine. The first nuclear sub that will test the sea based deterrence capability. But it seems the ATV is the first nuclear sub that will be operationalized into service to complete the triad. He also explain that there will be follow on subs that are larger and more capable. That will be the ones carrying the Agni-III SLBM. It seems that the test of Agni-III will take place only after the ATV is commissioned. According to Sandeep Unnithan the journalist of India today, the ATV will be launched in 2009.[1] Commissioning may be in 2010.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 03:43, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the following.
"DRDO also comfirmed for the time being India and Russia are only pursuing the hypersonic missile and that the long range BrahMos II will begin development only after the Nirbhay is tested in 2009 so that Russia can participate too without disobeying the MTCR. DRDO scientists also said that unlike the BrahMos 1 which is only being used by India. The Russian forces have shown keen interest in the BrahMos Hypersonic."
How come suddenly there are three version of Brahmos. Brahmos-1 exits which we all know as the Supersonic Brahmos. Now Brahmos Hypersonic (Also referred in the media as the Brahmos-2) is under development. Now which is the third one?
Can you provided the source?Chanakyathegreat (talk) 13:40, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think you got confused. Let me explain. Brahmos 1 is the supersonic cruise missile in service. Brahmos 2 is the Hypersonic missile under development. So there are only two missiles and not three.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 17:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to convey to you that, you are supposed to provide the link of the article when you edit it. Just because you know something or you assume something to be like that will not mean that the edit can be made in Wikipedia. It becomes personal opinion. So desist from such edits and only add those things that are provided with articles. Happy editing.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 14:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is no longer ranged version. Everything will be within the 300 km range. Also there is only two different types of Brahmos. Brahmos-1 Supersonic and Brahmos-2 Hypersonic.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 14:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Improving the Indian and WMD page

I would request you to rewrite the whole article with just WMD's. That's Nuclear weapons, Chemical weapons and Biological weapons. Just to see how such an article to be created, check this link[2].Chanakyathegreat (talk) 14:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I request to you to remove the Non-WMD stuff. Even the delivery mechanisms are not required just because with the size of nuclear weapons getting reduced, even a human being can become a delivery mechanism. So it's useless. Try to bring it to the standard of U.S and WMD's.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 15:04, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Subs

It's Scorpenes that are being built at MDL not Amurs. Amurs or the likes are in contention for Project 75I or Project 75A. That's building of another six submarines in India.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 15:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi

Hi,

Regarding ur qns, most of it is not open source, and may be confidential, so best not to publicize it even if we do know.... however, from Open source scouring, u seem to have got the asnwers urself, and are better informed than me, but I'll try and answer ur qns:

1. Bazalt on Gorshkov - these launchers will be removed to accommodate the ski ramp. Don't know if Brahmos or any other missile will be incorporated, but given that the CBG should have at least one frigate or destroyer, there shouldn't be much problem about firepower.

2. Ashwin - No idea. Nothin in Open Source, and best leave it at that rather than speculating. Won't be able to use on wiki either (without a ref).

3. Brahmos - as u point out, most future classes will have it. Rajput class already has it. Not sure about teh rest. Not OS. May be confidential.

Hope that answered some doubts. Keep up the good work with editing.

Cheers Sniperz11@CS 12:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
1. Iran and India seems highly highly unlikely, especially given the present situation. Iranian missiles are more an outgrowth of their reverse engg of some tech they've got from Russian and CHinese missile sales to them. What you say does sound interesting though.... but not sure if it should be put on the open net.... you can contact me by mail (the ID is on my user page), and i guess we can discuss this further.
2. Vertical launch is an amazing thing, and gives out ships a far more important and extensive operational flexibility. VLS saves more space - now we can have 16 missiles rather than just 8, and in the place saved, can have SAMs or radars or something else there.
3. Not sure where the Dhanush comes in into the picture in our missile inventory - govt has not given any info about it, but I guess its a TD. The 500 km came from news sources, but 1500 km seems highly impossible - at least in the Prithvi platform - check out Arun's page on BR for info. As for the extended missile ranges, the reason govt gives these ranges is for a conservative estimate, in its operational role. if the range is larger, no one will confirm. So better to leave it at that. If we have right now only a 1000 kg warhead, then there is no use of talking about range with a 500 kg warhead that we don't have.
4. Interesting report about that... guess it must be an indigenous rocket pod being tested.... not sure though. Good find.
Cheers. Sniperz11@CS 09:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


1. The Akash thing has been discredited - it was never meant to have a nuke on it.... only cold war era ABMs had nukes, and only because they were not very accurate, and thus, needed a much larger sure-kill area that conventional explosives couldnt have done with the small warhead weight restrictions.
2. Brahmos warhead has size restrictions, which limit it to conventional role (which was what it was designed for anyway). Even if we can fit in a nuke to it, I doubt we'd blare it out, especially considering that its a JV, putting a nuke will endanger russia in the MTCR, and also, we are looking to export it... imagine the outcry. We have other missiles to do the nuke delivery role. Keeping Brahmos conventional decreases the threat that Pak will launch a nuke if we launch a Brahmos. If they know that it isn't a nuke coming at them, they are less likely to retaliate with a nuke.
3. Only Pak will try and blow its trumpet and talk about nuke armed weapons, blah blah blah. A dog that cant bite will need to bark much more. A tiger is menacing enough to look at that it doesn't need to even open its mouth. Either way, the whole world (ie, the people that matter) know that we have nuke-capable missiles. No need to blare it out.
4. No need to advertise our missile capabilities.... people know we have them. And govt will certainly not release any info just to please the media or wiki editors.
I suggest that we take this discussion off-wiki, by mail preferably... u can mail me via the link. Also, I suggest that you don't post that much personal info on the net, esp on wiki.... No offense.
Cheers. Sniperz11@CS 11:52, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi.... Thanks for the wikilove. Hope ur day went well. I've deleted some of the talk stuff....I dont think theres anything to remove frm ur end.
I saw the India_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction page.... seems pretty good... only got a problem with teh image displays... I think some of the images can be removed, such as the Klub, Popeye and Moskit for ex, since the links seem to be enough. Some of the image captions also could be tweaked. Otherwise, it seems well referenced. Brahmos is not nuke-capable. A bit more on the doctrine side would also be good. I think some of the info on missiles, such as their description is not needed, and can be excised. I'll also try and help out, with the language and organization. But overall, the page seems pretty good, well referenced, and doesn't give out any non-public info. Sniperz11@CS 07:40, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Try Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Indian military history task force, although its not really that active. However, Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history is quite an active place, if you haven't already joined in. Sniperz11@CS 08:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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India and Weapons of mass destruction

This is regarding yr changes to the Nuclear Aircraft Section of the article, India and Weapons of Mass Destruction. India does have tu-142 and il-38 and these are capable of dropping bombs- nuclear, conventional, bio or chemical. Any long range patrol bomber can drop nuclear tipped bombs just like how it can drop normal conventional bombs. America just used normal bombers to nuke japan. These bombers were not armed with nuclear weapons and given to India nor was the leased Tu-22M. They are strategic bombers because they can fly long distances and dropping a nuclear tipped bomb is as easy as dropping a normal bomb. Obviously Russia didnt give India the bomber with the nuclear weapons so it has not gone against NPT which it is a signatory of. There are further plans to incorporate the brahmos into the il-38 which is speculated to be nuclear tipped cruise missile but thats another issue. Thus i would like to add the section of the strategic bombers back to the article after you are satisfied. CheersEnthusiast10 (talk) 14:10, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mate

In theoretical terms, that may have some grounds. But we would only be speculating whether an aircraft sold and in service as maritime recon role can deliver nuclear payload is a massive stretch.

I suggest we find a credible analysis (reference paper) to even begin to consider restoring this piece back. Please refrain from restoration until this can be resolved. But I very much doubt you would find any credible resource to state that a maritime aircraft is (in simple terms) credible of dropping nuclear payload. That's like saying Japan can do the same with Boeing 747! -- Ash sul (talk) 14:30, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Well mate practically any country can do drop a bomb. If Iran has ....

Hi again mate

As I've said, I understand (in theory), the point ur trying to make. but unfortunately, as Im sure you'll agree, military articles should remain based on facts and not speculations. For example, Iran or Pakistan nuclear programs (on the news) often tend to make wild claims about what their nuclear programs can achieve. But would you consider publishing a paper based reports based on just words? And India has quite a sophisticated and well educated military. Why would want to categorise them along the line of Iran or North Korea, where speculations rule the day?

Plus, in modern terms, the definition strategic bombing has changes significantly. Imagine, around the first world war time, the Sikorsky Ilya Muromets was considered a strategic bomber. Will you still call it that in today's terms?

As I have mention before, Russian (as signatory to the NPT) cannot sell planes that can be used or converted (without breaking treaty) to a nuclear capable bomber. If you have proof of otherwise, please provide credible military reference.

I was born in Dhaka, but been living in UK all my life.

Thanks -- Ash sul (talk) 15:05, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Also, on the point of China, they have actually copied (Tu-16) and produced Xian H-6 bomber duing the Sino-Soviet Split - very different times and the NPT didn't exist that time! And to be honest, Russian no longer sells bombers to china anymore because of such past issue. There's even rumor that Sukhoi will not sell them Su-33 because of years of blatant copying. -- Ash sul (talk) 15:11, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Transport in India

Why are you removing referenced text, as you did in this diff?--GDibyendu (talk) 18:58, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, what is the cause of removing this text: "India has a very low rate of car ownership. When comparing car ownership between BRIC developing countries, it is on a par with China,[1] and exceeded by Brazil and Russia.[2] ]]"? You could have placed it in the text area, rather than removing it.--GDibyendu (talk) 19:07, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You should not remove referenced text. Otherwise, your changes will get reverted.--GDibyendu (talk) 19:10, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'll suggest that you put it back. And there is no immediate need of image reorg in this article. Rather you should work on referencing if you can. Thanks.--GDibyendu (talk) 19:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Articles are expected to keep a balanced view on the subject. Its not easy to find negative sides (like car ownership of India is not much compared to other countries) with reference, so if something is there, it should not be removed. It is not a problem if the text is placed in a more appropriate place in the page.--GDibyendu (talk) 19:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Transport in India

Thank you for your edits to the article. I hope it gets us a featured status for the article.. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 07:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you remove the Thanjavur bus image? That was the first image of the article. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 15:33, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Pakistan and Bangladesh are trying to show off. We don't need to project a false image, we need to give correct info. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at the talk page. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, the article wasn't badly maintained. SBC-YPR and I got it up from 30kb to 50kb, from 20 refs to 61 refs....taht isn't badly maintained....--Rsrikanth05 (talk) 15:18, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AND one other thing..... NO MATTER WHAT....... Bharat will always be more developed than India to me..... --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 09:45, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing, I noticed you're a Hindi level 3 contributor, any chance of you being abvailable for the Hindi version of Transport in India? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 10:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page gain. Section images.. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 13:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rail Transport in India

Why did you remove images from this article? These two: *[[Image:Indian sleeper coach.jpg|thumb|200px|A typical sleeper class coach]] *[[Image:Indian Railways typical activity while getting off esp in General compartments.jpg|thumb|200px|Typical activity while getting off, esp in General compartments]] BTW, your changes in Transport in India are also vague: " *[[Indira Gandhi International Airport]] ([[Delhi]]) *[[Allama Iqbal International Airport]] ([[Mumbai]]) *[[Benazir Bhutto International Airport]] ([[Bangalore]]) *[[Peshawar International Airport]] ([[Hyderbad, India|Hyderabad]]) *[[Quetta International Airport]] ([[Kolkata]]) *[[Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport]]([[Ahmedabad]]) *[[Dr. Babasaheb Ambedkar International Airport]]([[Nagpur]]) *[[Cochin International Airport]] ([[Cochin]]) " . If you do not fix these yourself, I'll report this to admins.--GDibyendu (talk) 06:12, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When you start making meaningful contributions and learn to recheck the text after a copy-paste, nobody will threaten you. Your changes had a sentence like 'The railways of Pakistan is managed by India' and also it was showing that Bangalore's airport is named after Benazir Bhutto etc. And you kept on reinserting all the changes without bothering to recheck. The kind of sentences you added raises doubt whether you have even cleared school tests. --GDibyendu (talk) 06:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indian Armed Forces

It requires a lot of time. I can make small edits to the article. I think you can contact Sniperz11 (He may be busy, but find out) who can help you in improving the article.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 14:11, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An Invite to join the WikiProject Indian Roads

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Fiat Terra/

Hi, do you have some source that this car is/was built and it was imported to Europe? the reference you put was around two years old, I have never seen or heard about such car. --Typ932 T·C 14:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you are gonna add that info , I think we need some newer source than two year old story that tells that the Terra export begins to Europe in 2008, and its only needed one time in article not three times in different sections, but if you can find up to date source that this project is still going on... --Typ932 T·C 14:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The source is almost three years old, it should be on sale in Europe by now.. try to find better source.."The first vehicles will roll off the Córdoba assembly lines during 2008." I think this has never happened --Typ932 T·C 15:01, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Its maybe cancelled project? --Typ932 T·C 15:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I mean cancelled as Fiat? and made only as Tata ? --Typ932 T·C 15:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Rising Power

Hey, please come and add your two cents here. Deavenger (talk) 05:50, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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