User talk:Flcelloguy

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Esperanza Election

Hello, Flcelloguy. You already know what happened, but now we need to start the Esperanza elections for both Tranche B of the Advisory Committee and for Admin General very soon. There is currently some discussion going backstage at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/December 2005 elections, which you might be interested in seeing. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 01:06, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mindbenders

Wow! That is different. Well done for coming up with something so new.

I just have a quick question about what we're to do with creating these fictional articles. It would be a strange featured-quality article which didn't contain any wikilinks so should we be creating a whole set of articles around the central theme (e.g. Ooberlang could be an East-european dukedom ruled by the D'Rongan family who would then normally get an article of their own with a link from the Ooberlang article) or is it just one stand-alone article with no links except perhaps to existing articles? --Spondoolicks 10:19, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Edit counter

While I'm not very good at making user interfaces, I think I can figure out how to produce the main engine to process the diffs. Is there somewhere where we should put the code (whenever you have time, I don't have much time these days either) so we can access it and process it? (Preferably on-Wiki) Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 22:55, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I know more Visual Basic than Java, but I did take a Java class one semester, and I also have the Eclipse IDE, so I can probably do it. As for how to process them directly, they need to be retrieved from Special:Contributions using a Web Query such as XMLHTTP. I'll look into how to do that exactly later. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 23:06, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe. Ideally, we should do a SQL query, and our work would be cut out for us, but those are disabled. So, right now, the only way to do it is through Special:Contributions, going to the "earliest" link for the user, and then finding a way to go to the next 5000 edits... quite difficult, but doable. I'll also ask a bunch of people on IRC (particularily White Wolf) to help. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 23:12, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, even if we wanted to do that, we couldn't... the Contributions method only allows up to 5000 edits per page (it's hard-coded in MediaWiki). Another thing we could do is ask AllyUnion or other user with direct access to the database to host it for us when it's done, but that would require JavaBeans, which makes it even more complicated... Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 23:17, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I downloaded a copy of your code and run it for myself (you don't need the Java SDK, you can have the Java JRE and it works too). Not a bad start! :) I've identified how to split the edits per namespace, and I will do so as soon as I can (I'm in the middle of finals right now), and I'll then post the code to that page. If you don't mind, though, could you tell me if you update the code for some reason? So I'm not working on an old version of code... well, thanks! By the way, I found out I broke the 6,000-edit mark... :) Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 06:27, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. I ran into something interesting here [1]. I don't understand Perl, but perhaps it might be a good idea to contact Interiot to see if he can help us out? Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 03:23, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Version 2.0

Ok, I fixed a syntax error in your counter (it was missing a semi-colon), and ran it. However, your program threw an exception when it tried to process this edit:

18:14, 14 November 2005 (hist) (diff) User:Titoxd/Sandbox

Here's the stack dump:

Exception in thread "main" java.util.NoSuchElementException at java.util.StringTokenizer.nextToken(Unknown Source) at Stats.editcount(Stats.java:76) at Stats.main(Stats.java:53)

It has something to do with the way you're using StringTokenizer. I suggest that instead of reading the first 8 words, you read the first 7, then process character-by-character to process "m" minor edits and namespaces. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 01:28, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, it didn't have the asterisk, so it was processing the first word... sigh. I'm working on an extension to transfer the raw HTML into a usable text file (actually, working on translating my Visual Basic code into Java). I'm in the middle of finals, though, so I probably won't be able to upload it until the 15th. But yeah.. it's working better now! Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 02:40, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Extension 1.00

I took a little break in my studying, and wrote the extension. It is available at User:Titoxd/Flcelloguy's Tool. Right now, all it does is parse the contribs out of the jungle of HTML in the Contributions page, but it doesn't do much with them. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 04:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I played around with it some more. I released the 2.00 extension (same page), it now parses the name of the pages directly from the HTML, as well as the time and date of the edit. You're free to work on it to get the minor edits, edit summaries, and most-recent edits. By the way, I created a Contrib class that you might find handy... Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 07:41, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Version 3.0

Ok, I now played around with your tool and merged my code with yours. There's no more need for cut-and-pasting, all you have to do is go to Contributions, and save the source code for your contributions file. Right now, I haven't worked on the code for spanning several contrib files (it is a very different algorithm), so the absolute limit for the program is 5,000 edits. All three files are on my Tool page, so you can check them out before the code on your code page is replaced. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 04:12, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe... thanks! Actually, BufferedReader should be able to read any text file, regardless of extension, so saving it as .html or .txt should not a problem. As for merging several contribution files, perhaps the PurgeContribs.Purge() function in my 2.15 revision might be helpful: it parsed the contributions in the source code file to an external file at the same time it constructed the Contrib class for the particular contribution. I got rid of that code when I merged your files with mine, but it is still available thanks to Wiki's history, and it could be tweaked to parse the contributions in one file and then append the contributions in another one. That said, I can't work on it since I have another final tomorrow. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 01:57, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jurists

Assigned, again. Be sure to update Template:MedComOpenTasks for this case and the other. Alternatively if you don't want the new case (as you have one (and a half!) already), you can assign it to Sasquatch. The case is listed under Pending as I believe all parties have accepted. Cheers R e dwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 21:12, 3 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Good work

Good work on your tool. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 17:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

note re: your tool on my RfA

Hey there...thanks for doing the work. :-) I just figured since Kate's tool hasn't been up very consistently lately, that I'd drop a note in there saying approx how things looked last time I checked myself out. It seems to me like your tool takes a lot of work to get any results from, but now that you've done it, thanks for spitting out the results. I don't suppose it came with a breakdown over namespaces? Tomer ^talk 23:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mediation of Maoririder

I have been primarily watching his edits and correcting as needed, leaving him notes about relevant policies. In light of his mediation, is there anything I should be doing to cooperate with (or stay out of the way of) your efforts? ESkog | ^Talk 04:18, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

BDAbramson's RFA

Although my RfA is not over yet, I figured that since so many people voted before it had been posted, I may as well start thanking people before it wraps up. Thank you for your support (and sorry about the edit conflict) - I'll do my best as an admin to make the reality rise to the level of the dream. BDAbramson T 04:59, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tool Request

Ignoramus that I am, I am unable to comprehend your new tool. I am severly infected with editcountitis, and havnt had my fix for over a week. This is compounded by the fact that I am approaching the 2000 mark. So, I would sincerely appreciate it if you would help out a junkie like me and tell me my edit count. Cheers Ban e s 13:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get how to work your new tool so I'm getting a request for my edit count right now. I know I have passed my 4000th edit not long ago but I want to find out which page was it. Please let me find out my edit count. Thanks! --Aranda ⁵⁶ 21:03, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shot, many thanks. Ban e s 06:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Could I also jump on the band wagon and ask for an edit count? I know I'm above 13000 now, but I'm amazed by the variety of stats your tool comes up with. -- user:zanimum

Thank you so much! -- user:zanimum

Edit-counting tool

I hereby award Flcelloguy a barnstar for his creation of a back-up to Kate's tool for counting edits. --TantalumTelluride 18:43, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Although I haven't figured out how to use it, I feel that we must start showing more appreciation for things like this. Otherwise, the contributors might become so unappreciated that they consider leaving Wikipedia. --TantalumTelluride 18:43, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't..

..know if you've noticed, but you've been been wikibioed. -JCarriker 18:05, 11 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Biff Rose

Protection has voided the inherent racism of Rose's work and therefore is going to be akin to the recent news of late. I'm alerting media about this new instance and will be able to provide the proof from Rose's websites, which are alarmingly heavy with both Anti semitic remarks and radcist ideology.216.175.120.24

Thanks, Flcelloguy! Much appreciated. It will be nice to have a little break. --Sojambi Pinola 05:05, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

About several things

Hey, hope everything's going ok. I've got a few questions for you:

Have you had a chance to check my code? I think I've figured out a way to parse all the contribs together into a single file, which then can be processed into the tool. I've just haven't coded it yet, it requires a significant GUI change and I have to study for my last final tomorrow.
Could you have a look at Semi-protection policy? Several users (me included) have tried to answer your question.
Do you want us to make candidate statements for the Esperanza election? If so, where? Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 04:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I've added support for users with more than 5,000 edits now, and created a basic GUI. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 19:48, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, Beethoven :P, I'm almost done with a much more complex GUI for the tool. I'll be posting it sometime today. Also, could you check the Esperanza election page? It seems we had a self-nom late entry, and I don't want to discount votes... Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 00:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Mentored

I think this template is useful. It informs people that a user is already "spoken for" and that people shouldn't post test templates as they might normally do for such edits. Gazpacho 05:06, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza elections

Hi Flcelloguy! I notified just the spamlist, minus those who had already signed up to be candidates and the couple of people who have left the 'pedia. Hope this helped. I'm happy to re-spam the same people when voting begins, or spam the remaining people on the membership list if you think it's okay to do that. Thanks! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 09:16, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mind Benders

When are you going to start making requests for things to be added into the mind benders pages? RENTASTRAWBERRY ^{FOR LET?} röck 23:25, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza in News and Notes

I don't see a problem with either of us writing it. The only conflict of interest, I would think, would occur if either of us were running. As long as it's just a simple "the elections are happening now, go vote" message, I don't see a problem. Ral315 (talk) 23:33, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza elections

File:Voting box clipart.gif

Hi Flcelloguy: This is a quick note just to let you know that there's an election under way at Esperanza. If you'd like to become a candidate for Administrator General or the Advisory Council, just add your name here by 15 December 2005.

Voting begins at 12:00UTC on 16 December and all Esperanza members are encouraged to join in.

This message was delivered to all Esperanza members. If you do not wish to receive further messages, please contact Flcelloguy. Thank you.

➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 10:34, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza elections again

Hi Flcelloguy! I've spammed the rest of the membership list as requested (see above). I've taken care not to spam anyone I have already spammed, and avoided spamming people already declared as candidates. I've not spammed anyone on the Inactive Members list - would you like this done? Additionally, I posted a different version of the spam on ClockworkSoul's page as s/he doesn't like spam; and I didn't spam Nicholas Turnbull as we appear to have lost him :(

Hope this helps! Cheers! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 10:34, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza election help

I noticed on the Dec 2005 election page your name on the list of people to ask if you are interested in helping. I am doing so in this message with abit fo luck - so should you require any assistance (probably as a NPOV) then let me know :) Ian¹³_ID:540053 18:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note about checking, will do what I can. If we should find any people who have voted who should not, do we remove the vote, strike it through and add a comment why, or what? Thanks! Ian¹³_ID:540053 18:54, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Elections once more

Hi Flcelloguy! Judging from the feedback to my talk page and on spammed talk pages, many Esperanza members saw the advert to register as a candidate but not the request to vote that followed it in the same message. Would you like me to spam everyone on the membership list on Friday afternoon specifically about voting or are you happy that people will work it out over the voting period? Wikipedia editors are all above average intelligence so I'd hate to dumb down, but also I'd hate people to get the wrong idea about a democratic election. Let me know what you think/if this matters. Or say nothing if it doesn't and I'll happily go about my usual Wikibusiness once more! :) ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 22:31, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Two things

First, I assume that candidates running for both positions must be listed for each position separately, correct?

Secondly, if the above is true, shouldn't we just divide the tally box into two tables? Ral315 (talk) 16:49, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gimme a second; I'm working on it. Ral315 (talk) 16:54, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Done. They're not two tables so much as one table, separated to make it look like two. I adjusted the colors a bit...that dark green (00aa00) was painful to read with black text. Feel free to adjust everything as necessary. Ral315 (talk) 17:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Returning officer - edit counts

I'm pleased to report that a manual count of the edits of each candidate in the forthcoming election revealed that all have made over 150 edits.

As a side note, SWD316 has suddenly left Wikipedia after being horribly attacked by sockpuppets during his RfA :(

➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 16:58, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Returning officer - candidate qualifications

All candidates are members of Esperanza, except as shown below:

There's an issue of determination here. User:Brian New Zealand joined on 12 December. Does "joined by" mean "joined on" or "joined before"?

SWD316 has been moved to "former members" by Lbmixpro, so I'd assume that unfortunately we must remove him from the election. I will be putting a plea to stay on his user page later, though.

Linkofazeroth is listed under "inactive members", but I can see nothing in the rules that would suggest that is a bar to candidacy. Note that the candidate added their name as an anon and has made no logged-in edits to the 'pedia since 7 November 2005.

These are just what I've found out, by the way: none of the above qualifies as a judgement or opinion on any candidate in any way! ➨ ❝REDVERS❞ 17:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I would allow Link, as well as SWD316 (for now...if SWD316 doesn't come back, he/she can always be removed). Brian New Zealand did join on December 12, but he did so before Flcelloguy locked the page, so I'd assume that he's eligible (might be wrong, though). Ral315 (talk) 17:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Help!

iam breaking down but will be okay i need help with my contribuations..thanks celloMaoririder 20:44, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

My blocking policy

Alright. In the future I'll warn at least twice before I block registered users, but for anons, only once. freestylefrappe 21:53, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Adding copyvios is vandalism if users know they shouldnt be doing it. If this in regard to the dispute that led to my current RFC, please see the evidence I have provided, or, more specifically, User talk:Bitola, which shows he was well aware that what he was doing was wrong. freestylefrappe 22:04, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza elections

I don't mind, must be the time difference. Thanks for telling me.--Dakota ^t ^e 17:37, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza election time fix

I got mine fixed and noticed that SeanBlack,s was around the same time as my original so I left him a note on his talk page. Thanks.--Dakota ^t ^e 20:28, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Geisha Photo

Hello, Flcelloguy. Thank you for commenting on this picture. Please, understand that this sort of glimpse into the geisha's private world as she entertains a client is rarely captured on film. It is disheartening to see this rare visual contribution, which is of relatively high quality, brushed off for minor aesthetic considerations such as a shadow on the wall. This image represents a more accurate and authentic portrayal, better than anything we currently have at Wikipedia, of what a geisha actually does behind closed doors with the men she entertains. You are unlikely to find a better picture of a geisha with a client anywhere because most clients don't take many pictures in the tea room, and when they do they don't go public with them. After reading the Geisha article, I hope you will come to appreciate the rare nature of this exclusive photograph of a real-life geisha with a real-life client in Gion. I hope you will come to realize that, in light of its contribution, the image is of sufficiently high quality to support featured picture status. Please, thoughtfully reconsider. Thank you. ToddLara 23:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:John Seigenthaler Sr.

(Being bold and removing {{Wikipedia:Counter Vandalism Unit/Watched}}; considerable objections at the talk page. Thanks!)

What the heck? There wasnt a single mention of the template on the talk page? There needs to be an overwhelming oposition for such a drastic action. You cannot test something without testing it. I am restoring the "watched" template. Please do not consider this as a revert, I just want to test the idea ok? :) --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 23:28, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I should have made myself clearer: there is considerable objections to the use of the template at Wikipedia talk:Counter Vandalism Unit. I, too, have concerns about the use of such a template. Would you mind testing the template somewhere else, perhaps on a subpage of the CVU modeled after a real article? Thanks a lot. Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:09, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see. The problem with that is I know no one will vandalise the discrete page no one knows about with that template. I placed that temlate on two articles that are already vandal magnets (its not like we are risking vandalism). If we observe a decreace in vandalism thats a good sign, if not it is inconclusive. So it is a long process. In light of that what do you think? --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 01:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I see. I don't mind having a "test" of the template, as long as it is kept short (a week or so) and is limited to one page. I still don't think it should be used, but I don't think having a test will hurt either, as long as other people don't object. Perhaps you should remove the template for now and ask other editors if they mind having the template up for a week? Also, if you're going to do a test, I wouldn't recommend doing it on George W. Bush or John Seigenthaler Sr.. The former's article is currently part of an ongoing debate about whether to include section editing, and the vandalism will fluctuate with that. The latter will receive less attention throughout the week, so vandalism will bound to drop there. How about at Wikipedia? I still suggest asking at the talk page and see if anyone minds the test for a weel. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 01:26, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I am fine with that, however may I ask you insert the template ^-^' --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 18:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

All you have to do is to ask at the talk page and see if anyone minds; if no-one objects, then you can add the template for a test. Keep in mind that this should be a "test"; I still oppose the use of the template. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 18:17, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bah people will definately compain if I suggest anything there exist people who oppose ides just because I am sugesting it. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 19:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanza Elections

Hey, that's fine, I understand. Thank you for letting me know, and (if it was you) for taking my name out from where I voted. I'll be sure to vote in February. And yes, I love classical music. I'm studying Mozart Violin Concerto No. 4 currently, along with Bach, of course...do you currently study, or play only for fun? (Thanks again...I'll be seeing you around. If I come across vandals while I'm welcoming, can I send some of them to you?)--ViolinGirl^♪ 01:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks! Everything looks good. See you around!--ViolinGirl^♪ 12:59, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of semi protected

FYI. You protected a vandals change "HA HA" _→AzaToth 17:02, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this nasty little policy...the required changes to the software may not be implemented all too quickly, depending largely upon how the team feels about making a couple other changes we've been discussing. I'm with you on this one, however; and have been, if you check #675 on BugZilla, where I've been a little ruthless in keeping the priorities right. ;-) 86.133.53.111 17:39, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Depends on your definition of developer. One of many. 86.133.53.111 17:51, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and no. Read-only. 86.133.53.111 20:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not the first time, either...(worked out which one?) 86.133.53.111 20:27, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Not on those lists. Me. ;-) 86.133.53.111 20:39, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"No incumbents returning"

Are you not returning? I thought the Advisory Council would include you, and 3 elected members... Perhaps I'm confused... --Celestianpower ^háblame 17:37, 17 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Spamlist change

Bad idea, some people don't want to be bothered or spammed, which is why I had a list instead of just everyone. The way it is is kind of telemarketer like — we spam them until they say they don't want it. R e dwolf24 (talk) Attention Washingtonians! 03:25, 18 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Geisha

Your careful attention to this matter is much appreciated, and your reservations are noted. Thank you for shifting to a neutral stance in recognition of the importance of the photo. Previous unsigned comment by ToddLara (talk · contribs), 05:37, 18 December, 2005 (UTC)

WP:MIND courtesy note

Just to let you know - I have submitted my entry for WP:MIND round 4. Looking forward to round 2! --Celestianpower ^háblame 22:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC) PS, I hope I did it right...[reply]

Toolcruft

Well, version 3.2 of your tool is now available for beta-testing. I took out output to the console (kind of, it is still there for debugging purposes) and replaced it with a "Results" window and a much-improved GUI. The next thing to do for the tool is to process edit summaries in PurgeContribs.java (perhaps it should be renamed to Parser.java, since that's what it really is doing now, but that's another thing). I've started working on some code for that, and you can see it, it is just commented out.

The program is now becoming quite complex... I would recommend to make it a JAR file and then upload it somewhere for easy use... but then, that requires actually handling exceptions, not just creating empty try{} catch{} blocks like I've been doing now... :(

But anyways, the tool is comming well. How, I've done it, I don't know, because I don't really know Java... :O. But I shall be working on it some more too, but I need you to review it and to make some changes before you deploy it... Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 08:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, go ahead and move it wherever you desire. :). If you want a "neutral" name, I had begun work on this tool as WikiEditAnalyzer in Visual Basic, so you might want to think about that one. Just tell me whenever you do it (and tell Interiot too, we had talked about setting a WikiProject to collaborate on this stuff), and tell me when you update the code, because I have a few ideas to solve some of the issues you've listed on your project page. Tito xd^{(?!? - did you read this?)} 19:18, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, looking through my User space I ran into this page generated by RobyWayne, which can give us some ideas for output for the tool. So, how's the edit summary thing coming? Tito xd^{(?!? - help us)} 00:08, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mind Benders

I love the new format. Good idea! Really gets my creative juices flowing. You can find mine here. BTW, I found a clever way to do interlanguage links on the faux articles. I put in [[de:en:Wikipedia:Mind Benders/5/Redirect]] and when you click to see it in german, the article redirects to english and then redirects to the article. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 15:53, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Signpost/arbcom

Please see the relevant threads on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard and Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2005. Elections will likely be the second and third weeks of January, and there have been the usual provisions regarding suffrage and socks. There is some debate on whether we should use Special:Vote software (like last year) or an open vote like WP:RFA (as Jimbo requested). R adiant _>|< 16:37, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maoririder

Hi there -- you may not have noticed this since it's now buried in the page: User_talk:Maoririder#Regarding_your_legal_threats -- He started making them almost at the same time. Hmmmm.

Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 17:30, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. A lot of people have tried to assume good faith, but... BCorr|Брайен 17:36, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kumanovo

Chillout. The dispute was resolved off of Kumanovo. No one disputes the current version. You're taking this a little too personally. freestylefrappe 17:50, 19 December 2005 (UTC)a[reply]

The test

Cool Cat, when will the test end at Talk:John Seigenthaler Sr.? As I said earlier, that test won't be too reliable because the amount of attention has gone done significantly. Just curious; I don't want the template there that long... :-) Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:16, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe because of the template? ^-^'. It can end the second you wish to end, I do not care about it anymore.

I decided I am no longer going to come up with ideas that may/may not make wikipedia better.

All I get is people annoying me or oposing my ideas with out bothering to cite reasons. See talk of WP:AGF.

The only thing people dont push me around too much is when I write about Anime. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 22:39, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mentorship

Crossposted re: your message: I have been following it, and tried not to get involved while the mentorship was active, but since it seemed to have stalled out and Maoririder had continued his behavior, I felt it ws OK to do a bit of cleanup and later some warning. It would help if others would clean up after him (i.e., deleting sub-stubs and talk pages that consist of things like "{{reqimage}}{{cleanup}}{{uc}}pleeeeese add picture here. this needs it bad. pleese mentor meeee! Lucky you said to mentor me but i got to get help. my bad." But I understand that that wouldn't be you since you've been trying to mentor him, Flcelloguy. So I'm open to your approach.

And BTW, he's following this whole exchange closely, watching the watchers I suppose: see [this diff].

Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 21:46, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'll defer to your judgment and the judgment of the MedCom with the whole situation. android 79 21:56, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Kurier

Thanks for the info! I had heard that the Dutch Wikipedia was going to do a story on it, but not the German one. — ₀₉₁₈^BRIAN • 2005-12-20 23:56

I would watch nl:Afbeelding:GWB_vandalisms.png to see if any articles ever link to it. — ₀₉₁₈^BRIAN • 2005-12-21 01:00

Wikibio

Could you please do some expansion on exisitng wikibios like Essjay's wikibio; we have a unique opportunity to make a complete wikibio since he has left wikipedia. Thanks. -JCarriker 19:53, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

User:Poetlister et al blocked

As you were a facilitator in the mediation case involving Poetlister and User:RachelBrown, I thought it pertinent to advise you that Poetlister has been blocked indefinitely under suspicion of being a sock puppet of User:RachelBrown. My involvement was that Poetlister sent me an e-mail asking for my own neutral advice as to whether the situation warranted an escalation to RfC given that Lulu of the Lotus Eaters had refused to participate in the mediation. I suggested yes, suggesting that SlimVirgin be removed from the complaint. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 13:25, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PS. Please see my request here : Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Clarification_of_apparent_ArbCom_decision_to_indefinitely_ban_User:Poetlister_as_suspected_sock_puppet_of_User:RachelBrown which to date has not been answered. In other words, zero evidence has been provided that they are actually socks, that CheckUser was actually used, and furthermore that they were actually acting in a way that disrupted Wikipedia. All that we have is the statement from User:Mindspillage that they are, which is apparently based on her "private interaction". Since the only 2 other people who have a clue what is going on are User:SlimVirgin and User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters, both of whom are involved in disputes with these users (with accusations that they both abused their admin powers), there is a very strong suspicion that they merely sent an e-mail to Mindspillage asking for her to ban them, and that no evidence exists. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 17:03, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure who Zordrac is, but I'm almost certain that s/he has a closer connection to RachelBrown/Poetlister than s/he is stating. Zordrac has taken in the last day to writing all over user talk pages scurrilous things about me, even though I've never interacted with this user (under this name) before. Just for the record:

I am not an admin, so it's really hard to imagine how I might have "abused my admin powers".
I had never heard of User:Mindspillage before yesterday, let alone emailed her with any request.
I have no knowledge about how CheckUser works, or what the ArbCom procedure around banning sockpuppets is, and hence no involvement in any of this whatsoever.
There is no Wikipedia cabal.

Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 18:28, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hrm. Don't we usually have some evidence that this has been requested etc? I mean users who are indefinitely banned have to go through ArbCom first, right? Yet this one just happened. Okay so she's on ArbCom but that doesn't mean that she can ignore process, does it? There was no request for Arbitration against the users in question - there were RfArs that they were involved in, but none which were against them. Can ArbCom members just decide on the spur of the moment to ban someone permanently with no evidence? List of blocked users says otherwise. Note that the ban effectively destroys all complaints made against the admins in question, and has been coupled with accusations made against all of the other persons who had supported the view that the admins had acted inappropriately. I don't see how this can be seen as reasonable by anyone. Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 17:15, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

I would like to wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year. Guettarda 17:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Email

Ah! Sorry, yes, I've just been behind, catching up on arbcom stuff first. (And missing the mild FLorida winters already!) Will answer you shortly... Mindspillage (spill yours?) 17:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maoririder evading block

I have listed this on WP:AN/I as well, but thought you should know that Maoririder has created a new username at User:Jesustoldme (evidence at User talk:Jesustoldme). (ESkog)^(Talk) 18:05, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Wikistalker

It looks like my first Wikistalker contacted Lulu to encourage her to start Wikistalking me. Oh goodie. Or, wait, did Lulu happen upon your talk page too? Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 21:24, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

See: User:Zordrac/Poetlister for everything else. Sorry, I wiped what I previously wrote and included it in this page. You inspired me! :) Zordrac (talk) Wishy Washy Darwikinian Eventualist 16:00, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome

I am a newbie finding this all to be quite fascinating. Thanks for the welcome and suggestions.--Delzen 03:43, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Request for arbitration (mine)

SCZenz filed a request for arbitration regarding my actions here: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Freestylefrappe. I have listed you as a party involved. freestylefrappe 18:54, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays!

File:CandyCane.JPG

A candy cane for you!

Hi, Flcelloguy! I hope you have an enjoyable and relaxing winter break. :) Take care, Sango 123 (talk) 00:11, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Featured Picture

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted

Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Pleiades large.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. ~~~~

Fir0002's edited version, Image:Pleiades half.jpg, was the promoted version, so I have uploaded it over Image:Pleiades large.jpg. Congratulations, and thankyou for nominating it. It is indeed breathtaking. Raven4x4x 04:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS, Flcelloguy! Hope it's a wonderful one! (happy New Year, too!)--ViolinGirl^♪ 15:16, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

3RR violations on my talk page by User:Sojombi Pinola

could oyu help me? I'm having difficulty with the above mentioned user. Thank youMary Hope