Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Shipwrecks

"Importance scale" link is wrong

I wanted to let you guys know that that the "Project’s importance scale" link in {{ShipwrecksWikiProject}} links to an importance scale for WP:AZTEC. — Bellhalla (talk) 16:00, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I've fixed it now. I also added the redirect {{WPSHIPWRECKS}} because I still type it wrong half the time. Maralia (talk) 17:44, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

shipwreck of a a radeau

There's one shipwreck article, Land Tortoise (shipwreck), within the large list of other List of National Historic Landmarks in New York that is just a stub, potentially holding back advancement of list to Featured List. Stub, but with detailed sources identified and linked. Could anyone help develop this? Am hoping it would get up to high Start or to B-level or so quality. It's a radeau, which seems to be a barge to hold cannons. Thanks for considering. doncram (talk) 04:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

SS Gothenburg

An editor has proposed a deletion of a section of this article, but I can't find any formal notification under AfD that it has been done. So far the only discussion is on the talk page of the article. Are the correct proceedures being followed here? Mjroots (talk) 10:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC) Sorted Mjroots (talk) 16:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Reseach source

I found this, which might be a starting point for an article ot two. Mjroots (talk) 16:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Help needed at Marine debris

Lots of changes recently made to this article, a second-opinion copyedit would be very helpful. Thanks - 82.18.44.72 (talk) 14:06, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Amsterdam

I recently saw that the ship Vasa was featured on the main page, and this inspired me to do some work on the article about the Amsterdam. I think there is much information available about this ship that is not already in the article. The pages in the external links section could be used, at least to start with. I proposed an article structure on the talk page and would very much appreciate the help of some users from this project in order to improve the article and perhaps also to receive feedback. Thank you, Ilse@ 11:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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C-Class Assessment request

Please look at Washington Irving (sidewheeler) to see if it is C-Class. Thanks. WilliamKF (talk) 02:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup

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Peer Review of Protection of Military Remains Act 1986

Peer Review of Protection of Military Remains Act 1986 opened at MilHist, please comment Viv Hamilton (talk) 17:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

HMS Panther missing from lists?

I found several references to an HMS Panther that either "ran aground" or "sunk" in a place named after it as "Panther Point" in the Trincomali Channel, between the northern ends of Saltspring Island and Galiano Island in Wallace Island Provincial Marine Park in British Columbia, Canada, but I couldn't find any reference to such a shipwreck in your list. Can you help me find data about this ship (its history etc.) before it reached its sad end? By the way, an "HMS PANTHER" befitting this wreck is not present in the Wikipedia list of British naval ships - can you help solve the mystery(?) of this vessel?Bergeronz (talk) 02:07, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

The HMS Panther was a 58 meter (194 foot), three masted coal barque that got caught in a fierce gale in Trincomali Channel. The Panther's external planking, clad in copper, was 6 inches thick. The planking was fastened to enormous ribs, more than 12 inches square, set only 10 inches apart. The hold was lined with more planking (called a ceiling) 2 or 3 inches thick. In 1874, loaded with 1750 tons of coal from Nanaimo, and headed for San Francisco, Panther was wrecked in a fight with a fierce winter Novemberstorm that threatened both tug and tow. With near zero visibility and blinding snow, the Goliah was forced to cut the Panther free in order to save herself, once the storm subsided the tow steamship Goliah searched for Panther in the daylight. Finding nothing, Goliah's captain reported the loss of ship and crew. Meanwhile, the crew of the Panther had fought all night in freezing rain and snow to save the ship, but it was blown away from Saltspring Island and across Trincomali Channel, where it wrecked off Wallace Island. All hands from the Panther were saved, but coincidentally reported the loss of the tow tug Goliah in the night's storm... The wreck is now named on marine charts as Panther Point. She sunk will a full load of coal, and lies about 5 fathom deep. The masts and rigging were removed soon after her sinking.

As a diver this intrigued me. A few minutes googling yielded the following report. The Panther is a well known wreck in British Columbia in the dive community. Jetlife2 (talk) 12:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Report of diving on the Panther

The ship in question, while being named Panther, is not an HMS Panther. She was a civilian merchant, and not a commissioned Royal Navy warship. Sources that refer to her with an HMS prefix are in error. Benea (talk) 00:03, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

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HMAS Sydney (1934)

The National Archives of Australia has (in the last few days) declassified and released a large number of documents relating to the sinking of the Sydney (see the talk page). Although already rated GA, this new information should be thoroughly digested and included. We should work towards making this the FA for 22 November 2009, the 75th anniversary of her launch. 203.7.140.3 (talk) 04:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Maritime Disaster article

I think that this article supplements the project quite well. It presents a halfway house between the detailed shipwrecks lists and the whole article about the ship itself. Some of the details may be duplicated, but this is not a problem, as the same material is often presented in different viewpoints/perspectives in an encyclopedia. Wallie (talk) 10:13, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

SS Princess Sophia

I've reassessed the article from start to B class for WPShips, and reassessed class from Stub to B for other wikiprojects in line with that assessment. The article needs assessing for importance for WP:Shipwrecks. Mjroots (talk) 09:31, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Julius von Röhr

"Von Röhr's 1793 mission ended abruptly when the ship on which he was travelling to Africa from New York disappeared somewhere in the Atlantic". Can anyone put a name to this ship? ciao Rotational (talk) 13:31, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Not after a quick search, but interestingly Benjamin Smith Barton in his Collections for an Essay Towards a Materia Medica of the United-States, reports that Röhr made it to Africa, but died of a fever a few days after his arrival. Benea (talk) 00:01, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! I wonder who started the "ship lost at sea" rumour? Rotational (talk) 08:49, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Shipwreck template

I've been working on a template for the List of maritime disasters article. It's still in the "kicking it around" stage but I'd like to get some input for possible improvements. This link User:Shinerunner/Sandbox2 will show you what I've got so far. On a long list the header can be repeated in the list. Also, the header, line color between entries and the background colors for the entries or summary lines can be changed. Shinerunner (talk) 22:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I finished the template and it's at Template:Shipwreck list if anyone wishes to take a look.Shinerunner (talk) 22:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Google Under the Sea

Yesterday, Google announced a new version of Google Earth, which includes Ocean data, including many shipwrecks. - Canglesea (talk) 15:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Two proposed category renames

There is an active proposal to rename the categories World War I Mediterranean shipwrecks and World War II Mediterranean shipwrecks. All interested editors are welcome to comment at this proposal's entry at the categories for discussion page. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:00, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group

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Quedagh Merchant

Just an FYI, I have put up this ship for peer review. Any help from this WikiProject would be graciously accepted. This is not my area of expertise, but I do want to raise this to GA status. Here is the direct link: Wikipedia:Peer review/Quedagh Merchant/archive1

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Mary Celeste in desperate need of citations

I know there must be a a ton of citations around for this subject. Unfortunately, few of them happen to appear in this article. I've posted a message in talk that large-scale trimming is coming without some citation work. Folk here might be up for just such a task. The article needs a lot of help. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 07:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Need a few reviews for a few projects!

I cleaned up the World Discoverer page alittle and it classifies as a shipwreck but no one has given it a review. It is a mid-importantance on the Ships group and also has its spot on Google Earth where the shipwreck lies. The page has recieved over 2,100 hits since the pages creeation in June 2009. Also, I was hoping for an assessment on Lady Elizabeth (1879) which was built just after the sinking of her parent ship Lady Elizabeth (1869) which was assessed and I am currently working on it. Also any advice on this pages to classify them as a higher importance then low would be great. Thanks Lukeduk1980 (talk) 19:14, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Need reassessment on Lady Elizabeth (1869) & Lady Elizabeth (1879). I have cleaned up alot of the grammar errors and added material. I am hoping we can classify this at a high rating then what it is at. 66.41.160.240 (talk) 15:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Well guys, It's been three months now and I am still awaiting assessment on the Lady Elizabeth (1869) & Lady Elizabeth (1879) articles. Someone posted the the Wikiprojects Shipwrecks on these articles but never assessed them. I am hoping this can be done by someone soon. I understand the pressure some of you might be under to assess all of these articles; but I would just like a moment of your time in a quick assessment of these articles and a grading for them as well. I would appreciate it. Thank you and Merry Christmas. Lukeduk1980 (talk) 03:20, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

st chamond - correct info

sunk on 29 april 1918 not sunk in 1917!

[1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.171.129.73 (talk) 02:00, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

HMS Traveller

My uncle William Taylor served on this ship and went down in 1942. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.195.192.162 (talk) 10:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Project merge proposal.

I've been thinking about this for a few months now. Since it is highly likely that any article tagged for this project will also have a project tag for wp:ships would it make enough sense to merge the projects? Perhaps the shipwreck project could work as a special task force for the ships project? I'm not sure of all the details that might be involved in merging the projects but I at least thought the better way was to propose the merge here first. --Brad (talk) 21:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Mary Rose update assistance

I've been working on a major update of the Mary Rose-article for a few months now and I have been tinkering with it at a sub-page of mine that can be found at user:Peter Isotalo/novelties. The reason for my not doing the editing in article space is because I've wanted to submit it as a DYK. There's also the matter of waiting for a possible image donation from the Mary Rose Trust that is in the works. Anticipating that the update will be realized within a few weeks, I'm inviting anyone who's interested in improving the quality of the update (and to share DYK credits) to freely edit the above mentioned draft.

Peter ^Isotalo 10:50, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK opportunity

There's a planned press release from at least two Wikimedia chapters (UK and Sweden) for an upcoming image donation from the Mary Rose Trust scheduled for January 3. It's going to be accompanied by a major update of the article on the Mary Rose and the Anthony Roll which are going to be nominated as DYK for the day of the press release. If anyone here is interested in joining in to make that day into a naval/Tudor period/shipwreck theme day for DYK, check out Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Scheduling a DYK date.

Peter ^Isotalo 10:09, 22 December 2009 (UTC)