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RE: Deletion of an article.

Hello Juliancolton,

My name is Paul Schindler and I wanted to ask you for the reason you have deleted the Wikipedia article on Chi Rho Omicron in Jan. 2009. The organization is very near and dear to my heart and I am saddened to see it not be available for others to see on such a respectable site as Wikipedia. I am asking you this because I see your name and link to the deletion page and would like an explanation and possible action I or Chi Rho Omicron can take to reinstate the stub. The page is important to establish our credibility and exposure. Since we still are a relatively young fraternity (8 chapters) we are trying to grow our membership and a vibrant and open Wikipedia article is essential to this end.

I look forward to your reply and I trust the situation can be remedied. You can reply to my personal e-mail @ schindler(dot)paul(at)gmail(dot)com.

Sincerely,

~~Paul Schindler XPO 247~~

Can you help?

This editor[1] continues to remove references[2][3][4] that state Ali Riza Efendi was of Albanian descent. I've posted numerous warnings[5][6][7], to no avail. Thank you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

These editors[8][9][10] appear to be the same person, intent on deleting the talk page of Ali Riza Efendi[11]. --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Seems the offending users were already blocked. Let me know if you encounter any additional trouble. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

It would appear that this individual[12] is back removing references,[13] following his/her 31 hr block.[14] --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Apparently some people don't know when to quit. This individual[15] now has a different IP address(compared to his previously banned IP[16]) and doing the same removal of references and referenced information. --Kansas Bear (talk) 07:18, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Question

Where in Southeastern New England do you live? I'm on Cape Cod, but you seem to be active in places around here. Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 16:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm actually in southeastern New York, but I'm a fan of the Connecticut/Rhode Island area so I do quite a bit of editing on articles related to New England. :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:06, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah, a Yankees fan. I guess we can no longer interact. Well that's good to know that you are fairly "close" to me. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 17:24, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

WP:AGF that he doesnt like the Yankees. Has he said that he does? (Sorry but I had to butt in)--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 17:27, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Um Coldplay Expert i think Kevin was joking.Jason Rees (talk) 17:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

So was I--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 17:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so I want to again throw my hat into the RFA bin. I just going to ask Secret, and he apparently has an illness that will keep him off of here. Would you be willing to nominate me in lieu of Secret's absence? Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:55, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Give me a bit to review your contribs and see if you're ready. If so, I'll have a nomination written up ASAP. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 21:12, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Would you be able to notify me if I'm not so that I won't be left hanging? Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:29, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

If you aren't able to do this in the next 12 hours, I understand and I will go to Xeno for this. Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:50, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. To be perfectly honest, I still believe you need a bit of maturing and seasoning before you're likely to pass. For example, you seem to be getting a bit impatient here—which is definitely understandable, but delays are something one encounters quite a bit as an admin and it's something to get used to. Might be a good idea to ask Xeno for a more in-depth review, but at the moment, I think you'd be good to wait a bit more. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:53, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

The impatientness is probably the result of me being bored out of my mind during a month-long vacation. I'm sorry if I start sounding a bit off and impatient, but there is nothing to do here on the Cape, and Wikipedia is really the only form of entertainment that I have (well not really, but doing this is rather fun). I agree that Xeno is someone I should probably ask, so I will get right on over to him and ask for a quick review. Thanks for your time and effort here! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 03:07, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

re: Arlene

wow, an administrator likes my work! thanks a lot. i guess it just comes pretty natural, i get hit by storms all the time! do you have any advice, since you've been here so long? --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 23:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC) wait, do you get an actual hat (or some article of clothing) for being an admin? sell that shit on ebay!

There is a shirt, but I doubt you'll get much for it - it's public domain, after all. Olaf Davis (talk) 23:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

What am I bid for this fine item of apparel?

hah, good to know that fundraising drive wasnt to buy pointless stuff for admins! keep it real my friend. --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 16:16, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

hey, cyclonebiscut told me to ask you, where could i find info for a storm back in the 50s. the news reports are small, and outside of the mwr there isn't much. isn't there some database of hurricane links so i don't have to keep asking you guys lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Viennaiswaiting (talk • contribs) 17:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC) i did find this - http://ams.allenpress.com/archive/1520-0493/102/7/pdf/i1520-0493-102-7-476.pdf - from a google search. think there's any way to get more stuff along those lines? --Viennaiswaiting (talk) 17:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

darn, there's actually a site called the hurricane archive? grr... what about anything more along the lines of the above, like some papers? Viennaiswaiting (talk)

nah, google scholar didn't help much, i got the same link as the one above. what's ams, is it worth a shot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Viennaiswaiting (talk • contribs) 17:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Munir Hussain (businessman)

Hey JC, sorry to your crat effort come up short. Your politicking needs work, apparently. Could you move the deleted article to my userspace as User:ChildofMidnight/home invasion in Britain or some such (per BLP concerns). Gracias. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:10, 5 January 2010 (UTC) Or you could reopen the discussion and let it run another week. I don't think consensus was clear. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Odd, the article doesn't appear to be have been deleted in the first place. Was it moved or something mid-discussion? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 04:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Yup. ChildofMidnight (talk) 06:18, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Bah. Well, I moved it to your userspace as a preliminary measure for now. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your assistance. Enjoy yourself. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:43, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I had edited the page Munir Hussain, but CoM reverted it. Obviously I thought my page was better than the page it was reverted to (my reasons on the tagged for deletion page), but I left it as it was and waited for the discussion. OK, it has gone, but I'm interested in what the discussion was and whether it was deleted or not and by whom. Any information? Cheers Aarghdvaark (talk) 10:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Coaching: Rollback

I've typed up a couple of scenarios for both use and non-use, when you are ready to look at them! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Deletion: EMazzanti Technologies

Hello,

I reviewed the reasons for deletion of my page, EMazzanti Technologies. I believe I have corrected many of the errors of the initial posting -- if you could review at some time my talk page is at Talk:EMazzanti_Technologies. Thanks for your time!

Hoboken engineer (talk) 19:59, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I've restored the article, so you can go ahead and simply copy/paste the revised version. Still seems a bit promotional in tone, though, so that's something you might want to consider. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 22:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Creampuff

RE: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Cremepuff222

I just wanted to lend you moral support. I am completly uninvolved with Creampuff, and only know about this case because I stumbled upon it on AFD one day.

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		The Barnstar of Diligence may be awarded in recognition of a combination of extraordinary community service. This barnstar is awarded to Juliancolton. Juliancolton defending the defenseless was brave and very commendable. We desperatly need more inspring leaders like you. Ikip 21:05, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Seems like a lost cause at this point, but I still believe they should be given another chance. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Just one question Julian. Would you be prepared to put your balls on the block for Cremepuff? I recall back in the days that Keeper76 offered to do exactly that for me at RfA. If I fucked up and got desysoped then he'd give up his tools as well. --Malleus Fatuorum 21:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Eh, unless the situation necessitated it, probably not, but I'm willing to take responsibility for him if he goes nuts after being unblocked. I'm not nearly as much fun as Keeper though, so I doubt it would have the same effect. :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 22:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't questioning the effect, I was questioning the committmemt. Thanks for answering. --Malleus Fatuorum 22:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Malleus, your comments above inspired me to propose a variation of that here. I don't know Cremepuff, nor have I ever even seen his name here (hence the addition of "five editors..."), but I'm willing to take a risk. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 03:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm a bit puzzled. You don't know Cremepuff yet you're willing to put yourself in the firing line for him, albeit to a very limited degree? Why? --Malleus Fatuorum 04:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

• If he will actually rewrite an article on his talk page, I'd reduce the block to, say, three months. Obviously the consensus is to keep him blocked at the moment, but I think that if he is willing to rewrite an article... Also, what about this? The potential positives are huge (imagine the better articles!), while the negatives (idiocy, vandalism) can be fixed with a couple clicks on rollback and a tap on the indef block button. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 02:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

• Fully agree. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:13, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

  So would you be willing to give this option to every blocked socker and vandal (one could use the same arguments about the potential positives outweighing the potential negative)? To me this just looks like "trading" constructive edits for block time (and therefore disruption). It's a bad idea to openly say that users may harass and disrupt, so long as they write an article after. I don't think we should allow users who have caused as much disruption as cremepuff to be unblocked if they can't admit what they did (socking, harassment, vandalism, deleting pages for giggles) was wrong, but they will write articles. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 07:03, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

• Hi Kingpin, certainly not. But a former admin who has previously rewrote articles (unlike most socks/vandals)? I'd do it in a heartbeat. I think that cremepuff understands this would be his last and final chance, so I don't think he would screw it up. If he does, it really doesn't cost us much beyond a few clicks and typing "goodbye", as we wouldn't let the disruption go beyond a couple edits before blocking. However, if he doesn't screw it up, the encyclopedia benefits. In my mind, it's worth the gamble. —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 07:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Essay on consensus-building

I've been puttering around with an essay about consensus and wouldn't mind your commentary if you're so inclined. It's my first attempt at starting an essay.--otherlleft 21:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I like it, and I agree with the sentiments there. I wouldn't object to it being moved to the main projectspace actually. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 22:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate your endorsement. I wasn't sure if it had already been said better elsewhere. I'll put some headers in, I think.--otherlleft 22:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

You probably don't want to hear my opinion, but I'll offer it nevertheless. Consensus has to be built. not determined by some third-party after you've cast your "vote". Consensus, in other words, emerges from reasoned discussion. A strange concept for some, I know. --Malleus Fatuorum 23:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate any and all opinions, actually. As an essay, do you feel it expresses a unique point of view, or is it repeating something you've seen expressed better elsewhere?--otherlleft 23:11, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Since you ask, I think it expresses a point of view that is all too common here, and one that is killing the project. For more details contact my talk page. --Malleus Fatuorum 23:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Michael Baic

Dear Julian,

Thank you for your speedy reply and help. You suggest I contact Annonymous Dissident. Could you tell me how to do this as there does not seem to be a similar method to that which you use on his talk page. Sorry to be so slow to grasp the correct method. Thanks Julian. Michael Baic.

92.11.160.19 (talk) 10:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Whoops

Well that just shows you how up-to-date and observant I am. Thanks for clearing up after me.Fainites ^barleyscribs 14:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Heh, no worries. :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 19:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Milhist task force reorganisation

Following the project's recent discussions, I've now merged the Science task force with the Engineering and technology task force to form the new Military science and technology task force. Because you were a coordinator of one of the two defunct task forces, I've transferred your coordinatorship to the new task force; you may wish to update your watchlist accordingly. There are still a few wrinkles being worked out, but most of the new infrastructure is in place and the rest should follow shortly. All the best, EyeSerene^talk 19:51, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 19:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

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Did You Know question

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Ernest Cook information

I am sorry I don't know how to reply to this comment but will give it a try. I have been asked by the Ernest Cook Trust to amend information to do with Ernest Cook and the estates owned by the Ernest Cook Trust. Is this OK? Viva communications (talk) 11:56, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Ernest Cook Trust

I have had two messages about adding information about the Ernest Cook Trust. The secretary to the Trustees has asked me to amend any incorrect information about Ernest Cook and/or the Trust which currently appears on wikipedia, which is all I have been doing. I have also added links to the Trust's own website for further information. I am not sure what the problem is, and would appreciate some help! Many thanks Viva communications (talk) 15:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page. I'd strongly suggest that you request a username change as well, as names purporting to be representing an organisation are very much frowned on. --Malleus Fatuorum 15:39, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

sorry

I see your name associated with hurricane articles. Sorry to see that you did not become a bureaucrat. Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

NHC error in Claudette's TCR

Just found a blatent error in Claudette's TCR. In the Meteorological statistics section, it states that there were no tornadoes in relation to the storm. However, the National Weather Service published a fair-sized report on a tornado spawned by Claudette :P TCR Cyclonebiskit (talk) 17:38, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

You mean this? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 17:41, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Juliancolton. You have new messages at MWOAP's talk page.
Message added 23:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I have a personal request to you on this page. MWOAP (talk) 23:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

RE: Removal and Comments in regards to ISCF MMA Page

January 7th, 2010. FROM THE ISCF International Sport Combat Federation

We hate to start out rude, but we feel greatly insulted by all the comments made about the past ISCF MMA info page. EVERYTHING that your staff have attacked us on can be EASILY answered in a simple, two-way conversation.

WHO ARE THESE "EDITORS" THAT HAVE SLAMMED US??? It's CLEAR they have no idea what the ISCF is!

We have no idea WHAT all of you are talking about in your posts however, we here at the ISCF would LOVE to be able to discuss all your false accusations and prove to you whatever we need to prove to make you happy. ALL ISCF events can be found on our past news page located here; http://www.iscfmma.com/PastNews.htm

Here is where you are a little confused. To begin with, the ISCF is a "SANCTIONING BODY" NOT a "PROMOTIONAL COMPANY" like the UFC, Strikeforce, King of the Cage, etc. etc.

Not to try and insult anyone here but it clearly appears from all of your comments attacking our credibility that no one here knows what a "SANCTIONING BODY is or does.

AGAIN, we are NOT Promoters, we "SANCTION events for proper rules, regulations and safety!

It would not have taken anyone here long to do a little research and find out about the ISCF because EVERYTHING we claim we have accomplished as well as do is CLEARLY documented on our web pages. We didn't just "MAKE THIS STUFF UP!"

The ISCF was the FIRST ever MMA Sanctioning body in the USA, and was created in 1999, LONG before any state athletic or boxing commissions started sanctioning the sport of MMA. If you want to look at "MMA" from a RULES topic, the ISCF was the first ever "MMA" Sanctioning body in the WORLD that truly sanctioned the sport of "Mixed Martial Arts". While "OTHER" groups such as SHOOTO Sanctioned their own styles, ISCF Sanctioned what was known as MMA today.

AGAIN, Groups such as UFC, Strikeforce, King of the Cage, these are "Promotional Companies", NOT Sanctioning bodies. We do not SIGN fighters. For more info on the ISCF, please go to; http://www.iscfmma.com/ISCFMission.htm

For MMA Sanctioning bodies you have listed; World Alliance of Mixed Martial Arts, Shooto, WWCN, North American Boxing Council and the Japan Mixed Martial Arts Federation.

However, you are still missing A LOT of other MMA "SANCTIONING BODIES" such as ISKA, WKA, KICK and of course, the ISCF.

If anyone here would have been respectful enough to speak to us before insulting us and deleating our info page, it would have been greatly appreciated. However, NO ONE here bothered to do this and NO ONE bothered to learn what a "SANCTIONING BODY" is or does.

Our e-mail address is info@iscfmma.com and our contact number is 916-663-2467. Again, we would be glad to "EXPLAIN" to ANYONE taking the jabs at us here the difference of a "SANCTIONING BODY" and a "PROMOTIONAL COMPANY" because it's CLEAR no one here knows the difference...

We Eagerly Looking forward to your reply and sorry if we were a little emotional in this message, but we took great offense to the attacks by the editors here for an organization we have all worked very hard in making credible among the MMA world.

Thank you for your time in this matter. Sincerely, ISCF MMA www.ISCFMMA.com75.5.253.232 (talk) 23:22, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

• Note: I brought the item to AfD, so I take much of what you've said as being directed at me. First off, you edited the closed AfD discussion. Those edits have been reverted. Second, you first need to read WP:COI, then read WP:RS, WP:V and probably WP:NPA while you are at it. Niteshift36 (talk) 23:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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OK Niteshift36... No one here has unlimited HOURS to read through all you have asked us to read. Our point is the TERRIBLE Accusations and comments that you and the other editors made on the page that we first responded to. YES, we saw "Don't change it..." However, after reading what you have accused the ISCF of, ANYONE IN THE WORLD WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT WE DID!! you and the others were rude, insulting and ALL of your claimed accusations were FALSE!! AGAIN, your accusations were attacking us as if we were trying to be a UFC, or compete with UFC. WE ARE NOT AND DON'T WANT TO BE A UFC, WE ARE A "SANCTIONING BODY! NOT A PROMOTIONAL COMPANY! It was insulting to read the comments. For example, someone there referenced this page for event results; http://www.mmauniverse.com/organisations/SS22

We LAUGHED when we read this page. It says only 68 events from 1999 to 2008. Not only have they missed 2009, but they lissed A LOAD OF EVENTS.

If you really want to see what we have documented, "NOT WHAT SOME WEB SERFER 'FOUND' AND POSTED", go to our past news page. EVERY event is posted with results. We didn't just make these events up. CALL the promoters on the info numbers or e-mail them. They will confirm these were REAL EVENTS; http://www.iscfmma.com/PastNews.htm

The same goes for this page; http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=stats.search&eventTeamSearch=International+Sport+Combat+Federation&x=55&y=4

And this page; http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=stats.search&eventTeamSearch=ISCF&x=23&y=8

If these guys were true and correct, we only did "4" events last year. AGAIN, WE LAUGHED!

"YOU" went on to comment; "Interestingly, the 2nd link has nothing more recent than 2007 and the first one shows 2008 as the last event. Truthfully, that makes me feel they are even less notable than before. Niteshift36"

How can you make such a comment? YOU haven't even attempted to look into the issue. You have never even went to the ISCF pages and looked at all the past ISCF events. Yet, you insult us as if we just pulled these numbers out of a hat with a comment like, "that makes me feel they are even less notable than before"

aktsu is even more rude and INCORRECT! For example, he wrote: Their MO seems to be to put their name on events promoted and put togheter by actual promotions (and sanctioned by actual sanctioning bodies, i.e. the state athletic commisions) while giving out titles to all the non-notable or barely notable fighters they can get to (because if they were actually notable they would sign with proper promotions whos titles are't meaningless).

AGAIN, HE/SHE HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE ISCF IS!!!! The job and duty of a sanctioning body "IS" to put our name on events! We "SANCTION THEM!" We do not promote them. Again, aktsu is clueless as to what the ISCF is, or what role a "Sanctioning Body" has in the fight sports or ANYWHERE! Especially when he makes a comment like, "and sanctioned by actual sanctioning bodies, i.e. the state athletic commisions"... LOL, ISCF "IS" A SANCTIONING BODY!!! And APPROVED by MANY USA States as an Official Sanctioning Body! Even more funny is his comment, "while giving out titles to all the non-notable or barely notable fighters they can get to (because if they were actually notable they would sign with proper promotions whos titles are't meaningless)." what a FOOL! It is NOT our job to "Sign Fighters!!!" It would be unethical! "PROMOTERS AND PROMOTIONAL COMPANIES like UFC, Strikeforce, etc. sign fighters, NOT SANCTIONING BODIES!!!

aktsu goes on to say... "Seems to me the only reason some promotions are on board with this is because they are so small their own titles would actually mean even less than ISCF's"

Well, he does keep us LAUGHING! Events sanction with a sanctioning body to be assured they have officials NOT associated with the promotional company. "SUCH AS K-1" believe it or not, who use their own officials. the questions come up when this happens of "Are the officials helping the promoters fighters to win?" With a "Sanctioned event" the judging is fair, the referee is fair, ALL the officials are trained, certified and fair to the event! The sanctioning body assures the fighters are qualified to fight, physicals are done, a medical doctor if not two are at cageside or ringside, on and on. in fact, please direct aktsu to our RULES PAGE HERE:

http://www.iscfmma.com/ISCFRules.htm

Or our Sanctioning Page here;

http://www.iscfmma.com/ISCFMMASanctioning.htm

This might help "EDUCATE" him and everyone attacking us as to the role of a sanctioning body. To make the events FAIR and SAFE for all involved, "A LOT" like a State Athletic or boxing commission!"

He goes on to say, (and I guess because "ISCF" sounds kind of impressive if you're clueless to what's behind it).

OK, I have to say it, WHAT AN IDIOT! He's the Idiot for making such a False claim! Again, HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE ISCF OR WHAT A SANCTIONING BODY IS OR DOES! Maybe he just want's to slam the ISCF. Who knows, maybe he has an issue with our success, who knows, but one thing is for sure here, WHY IS SOMEONE WITH NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE FIGHT SPORTS AND ESPECIALLY FIGHT SPORT SANCTIONING BODIES EDITING OUR PAGE!?!?

aktsu goes on to say... "The sole pro MMA "world" championship title they've given out was to Din Thomas in 2000, and he still haven't defended it even though he's fought 20 times (14 wins, 7 losses) since then because none of the promotions reckognized the title; i.e. none of the fights have been "ISCF-sanctioned"-bouts."

To assist him, thomas won his title before a lot of big promotions started signing fighters. It was the first ISCF World title won. There have been others, but again, aktsu didn't want to take a few seconds to look at our past champions page found here;

http://www.iscfmma.com/ISCFChamps.htm

In addition, there is now another ISCF World Champion that it seems he missed. Keep in mind, our "GOAL" is not to give out World Titles. In fact, the reason we don't have one in EVERY weightclass (Something he didn't think about here) is because we have high standards as to WHO qualifies for an ISCF World title shot. we don't just tell a promoter (Like some sanctioning bodies do) pay us some $$ and you can have the world title. In addition, keep in mind. These UFC Champions are GREAT fighters. HOWEVER, UFC Champions are not always the BEST. Those who get a UFC Title shot are fighters UFC "SIGNED" to UFC. Something we, as a sanctioning body do not do! So think about this, if the best fighters are "SIGNED" by a promotional company like UFC or Strikeforce, they are NOT going to fight for an ISCF Title.

In addition, ISCF's main focus over the years has been for amateur mma. Obviously aktsu never bothered to look at the ISCF Amateur Rankings where there are MANY WORTHY Champions;

http://www.iscfmma.com/ISCFAMRankings.htm

aktsu goes on to say... "Unless sources are provided to show the ISCF is notable outside their own little MMA-bubble I have to go "delete"."

Maybe aktsu should venture out of "HIS" bubble and try to learn more about "Sanctioning bodies!" it's clear, he knows NOTHING ABOUT THEM and is getting "Promotional companies who have their own titles with their own signed fighters mixed up with "Neutral non promoting sanctioning bodies..."

If ANYONE here REALLY wants to know more about the ISCF, we eagerly look forward to any and all of you to take some time and read this page for starters;

http://www.iscfmma.com/ISCFMission.htm

After reading it, it would be well worth your time to actually research more about the ISCF on our pages as well as on promoters pages who "Sanction" with us instead of making false accusations and insults about us on your edit page here.

Now, the next questions would be,

1: "How can we get our wikapedia info site back up?

2: how can we be listed under the "Professional mixed martial arts organizations" section under "Sanctioning bodies and networks"?

Again, these are "PROMOTIONAL COMPANIES FOR MMA: UFC • WEC • Strikeforce • Bellator Fighting Championships • Art of War (US) • RITC • Ring of Combat • Adrenaline MMA • Ohio Xtreme Fighting • HDNet Fights • FFC • King of the Cage • Icon Sport • Tachi Palace Fights • WCF • IFC • Vyper Fight League • USA-MMA • Gladiator Challenge • Ultimate Warrior Challenge • Called Out MMA • Shine Fights • Ironheart Crown etc...

And THESE ARE SANCTIONING BODIES FOR MMA;

ISCF, ISKA, KICK, WKA, along with, World Alliance of Mixed Martial Arts • Shooto • WWCN • North American Boxing Council • Japan Mixed Martial Arts Federation

I have to say I'm sorry that the comments above may seem rough back at you, but put yourselves in our place. Pretty much EVERYTHING you all said about the ISCF is simply NOT TRUE, and ALL of it can be backed up. As for the info being on our own web site, what is wrong with that? Heck, at least you can find all of our results. On ALL the sanctioning bodies I listed above, only about 2-3 others even have a news page or results page. Nearly ALL of them don't even have MMA rankings. WAMMA only has Pro rankings, and how many events have they sanctioned since they started being a sanctioning body? 5? 6? Really? And you have THEM listed??? LOL!

We hope everyone here can read our comments for what they are and take the emotions out of them. The simple truth is, ISCF is a "Sanctioning Body" NOT a "Promotional company". we DO not SIGN Fighters and it's not our job to offer up TITLES. Our job is to regulate the sport of MMA to assure safety and fairness. Or better put in our own mission statement;

The ISCF Mission For Mixed Martial Arts... "Safety, Credibility, Fairness, Recognition, Support & Unification of Mixed Martial Arts Around The World"

"The goal of the International Sport Combat Federation is to regulate safe and fair rules and regulations and help provide exposure and opportunities for local, regional, national and international competition among amateur and professional mixed martial arts fighters, trainers, promoters and officials. We will, through adherence to and enforcement of these rules and regulations, strive to make competitive mixed martial arts fighting a safe and fair sport as we continue to help bring exposure to and enhance the present as well as the future of the sport we serve, Mixed Martial Arts."

We hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, the Staff of the International Sport Combat Federation E-mail: info@iscfmma.com Phone: 916.663.2467 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.253.232 (talk) 19:11, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

• I'm sorry, if you can't be "bothered" to read the policies and guidelines that govern Wikipedia, then I can't be "bothered" to read and respond to your lengthy rants. If you can't familiarize yourself with the policies, then perhaps Wikipedia is not where you belong. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:40, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Mentor

I've replied.--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 02:38, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Again (I should probably stop should'nt I? As you have this page watched I would assume)--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 02:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's watchlisted. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:49, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

I have to go. Its getting late and im tired. Can we continue this tomorow? (Thanks for helping me out. You need to be blunt as I have made several mistakes here)--Coldplay Expért ^{Let's talk} 03:05, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Dr. Seuss

Hi Julian, I noticed you've semi-protected Dr. Seuss for excessive vandalism. I have a question about this edit [17]. Mrs. Geisel suffered from cancer but committed suicide. I don't think this edit is useful, do you? Would it be all right if I reverted it?Malke2010 19:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Why did you delete Bernard Herman?

Why did you delete Bernard Herman? Who are you to decide who is important enough to include and not include in Wikipedia? Bring it back. Now.

209.221.3.66 (talk) 19:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)Zack