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Isn't he gay?

I read somewhere that he was openly homosexual. Obviously, I'll have to find the source text before posting it, but wouldn't this be a valid point to insert in a living person's biography? BadMojoDE 17:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)BadMojoDE[reply]

While it's been the subject of some speculation in the skating community and in the press, Weir himself has steadfastly refused to discuss his sexual orientation or personal relationships, so there is no sufficiently reliable source to warrant including any information about it in Wikipedia. Dr.frog 17:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

True - I could have sworn that I saw an article somewhere stating that he "came out." After a little bit of Google searching, I've given up. It was probably a fake; sorry about that. 68.44.224.112 22:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)BadMojoDE[reply]

It would be a valid point, if it were true. Weir has repeatedly refused to talk about it, so I doubt what you read even comes close to being a reliable source. Kolindigo 00:29, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is false; someone hacked onto his myspace page back in early 2007 and edited to say that he was gay. In response, he shut the myspace page down for a month and put out a statement letting people know it had been hacked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.244.219 (talk) 23:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The question is has he ever denied being gay. Seems to me he is allowing the rumor to continue. Maybe it is his way of getting more notability because people may be more interested in learning more about him if he were controversial. It is me i think (talk) 01:03, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually we either have reliable sources stating he is gay or that he has been "dogged by" or "continually questioned about" his sexuality. And unless we have have strong sourcing along those lines we don't touch it per WP:BLP. Rumors are pretty worthless as well unless the rumors themselves become quite notable. Blogs and MySpace, as well as other social networking websites, are particularly suspect for any information considered controversial. Banjeboi 13:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny gave an interview about a year ago to IFS magazine. The interview appeared online but I cannot find a copy now to link it. In the interview, Johnny said he was offered a cover on a national magazine if he came out in the magazine. Johnny said no since he never said he was gay. Johnny also said that he's been totally honest about every part of his life with the media except for one area, his sexuality and wasn't he entitled to keep one part of his life private? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teachmeplease (talk • contribs) 00:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

^Going to have to call bullshit on that last one. This is what is known as a SLAM DUNK scenario. Two chihuahuas? One is named Bon-Bon? Interest in fashion design? Friends with Kathy Griffin? We just have to wait for some official source to say it so it can be sourced. --98.232.181.201 (talk) 07:25, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tatiana Tarasova

Ok, maniacs. It`s better to discuss about Tatiana Tarasova in biography of Johnny Weir... I think you didn`t delete her article as a result =) Thx, Tatiana Tarasova was a former coach of Johnny 2003-2006? Am I right?

2003-2005, in the summers only, actually. Priscilla Hill was still his main coach at the time.

"Swan" Glove in Smithsonian Story

I can find no verifiable proof to the story that Weir's red glove from his 2006 "Swan" costume was displayed in the Smithsonian, so I have deleted that. The two "references" that were attached to it did not actually confirm the story at all - they only cited a joke Weir made in an interview in which he said maybe he should "donate it to a museum". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.244.219 (talk) 06:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The sourcing is weak. The Marshalls Figure Skating Commentary seemed to me to be the truth, but I agree a stronger source might be needed compared to a few weak ones.User:calbear22 (talk) 08:39, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Middle Name

His middle name is Garvin, he uses it on all his public records and is on his birth certificate which can be ordered from the state of Pennsylvania. Its also on tax records in his home state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Siflnollie (talk • contribs) 17:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sifnolie, how in the world have you been accessing his tax records and birth certificate? That seems like a huge violation of privacy and at the least unethical, if not illegal. Sorry, but for information to be included on Wikipedia, you need to be able to attach a reference to it and show it is sourced, and we have only your word that you have checked his tax and personal records. Weir's middle name has never been stated in a published source, as he has repeatedly said he keeps it private. Until you have an actual reference for the information, it comes off the page. 70.16.102.219 (talk) 18:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, please stop repeatedly putting up information that has no published source!! EVERYTHING on this Wikipedia page is fully referenced and sourced (just look at the article), and you cannot add information that there is NO SOURCE for! As for your message to me: Yes, I AM American, and so I know that it is NOT legal to order a stranger's birth certificate or access their private tax records, and quite frankly, doing so for a famous person is very stalker-ish and kind of scary. Again, those are NOT published sources and so cannot be referenced. Wikipedia is not required to take your word that you have been looking into the private records of a celebrity and so "know" unpublished information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.16.102.219 (talk) 14:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the state and the source. Not all states consider birth records to be private. And as for tax records, often the information is sold for data mining when you use third party services (HR Block, etc.) to prepare your taxes. So relax already... it should be more about reliable sources. This is not. Kaihoku (talk) 23:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]