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Religion

Several times Baha'i faith was added to the list of the religions as being the largest minority, but it keeps getting deleted. Anyone know who does it and why?

Iranian Tourism

I can't find any data anywhere to back the assertion that "Iran is among the top 10 most-touristic countries" under "Economy." I can find data backing up the fact that it is between 68-87 on the list of tourist countries, however. The citation references an article in which the author makes about as empty an assertion as the Wikipedia article -- nowhere does he state the source for his data. "Some Iranian guy in an article about Iranian tourism" does not constitute an official source for this kind of information. Find a real source or get rid of it, please.


EDIT: The closest I can find is (http://www.payvand.com/news/07/aug/1181.html), in which the Iranian foreign minister, himself, addressed a conference on investment in Iranian tourism and told them that, "given a large number of cultural and historical sites, Iran is among top 10 top countries in terms of tourist attractions." Perhaps the article should be re-written to suggest that Iran "considers itself" among top 10 countries...

http://www.persian.asia is a site dedicated to Iranians and has amazing pictures... over 5,000 I think... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.193.203.130 (talk) 03:50, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, should be removed 68.115.83.140 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:34, 3 January 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Flag

The flag used until 1979 should be showed above or under the current flag, as the Iranians never voted to change their flag, the mollahs did. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lionflag.svg

Contemporary Politics

hey guys I'm all about the green movement, but the section and picture concerning " A motto of demonstrators against the purported vote fraud".. does that really belong in the wikipage of Iran? USA had major issues with the Flordia elections and the Bush administration but none of this is on their USA wikipage. Same goes with other countries.

I think that space in Iran's wikipage should be devoted to something else, you have 3000 years of history, and most of the content on this page covers the last 30 years...

1. Please Sign. 2. You mean this policy? Maybe. 3. But I made a saying for you "it took 3000 years to build a culture, and took only 30 years to destroy it". You got it? Xashaiar (talk)

Demography

Recent demography edits

Babakexorramdin, I don't understand this revert of SorenShadow's addition of material from the Library of Congress – Federal Research Division 2008 report. Why did you remove it ? In your edit summary you say "do not remove another source". That is what you did rather than what SorenShadow did. You said "cite it correctly". What are you referring to ? The cite formatting is fine although looking at the material added, it's a copy/paste from the source and therefore probably needs a few changes to avoid being a copyvio. You also say "See also demographics of Iran article". For what ? The Demographics of Iran cites both the CIA and the Library of Congress 2006 (rather than 2008) report so that probably needs updating. The LookLex sourced figures there probably need to be removed. Is LookLex even an RS in Wikipedia ? I doubt it as it's rather similar to Wikipedia in the way it's written. Is SorenShadow 'a banned user' as you said in a previous edit summary ? If so why are they still editing ? Have you filed a report at WP:SPI ? Sean.hoyland - talk 12:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just undid the edits, because he had removed the other source. He coould have retained the other source. Sorry I have no time to copy and paste again and again. Sorenshadow shadow just could have added his edit after the already existing edits and that wqas fine. Moreover I did not see that Sorenshadow had cite it correctly. There were no mentions of the category )Non-Turkic non-Iranic) groups for instead , as I remember according to library of congress, Georgians, Armenians and Assyrains made up 2% of the population. The serious problem with the library of congress is however that it disregards the Mazandarani and Gilaki people. While the percentage of Mazandarani people was one of the main point of dispute by sorenshadow. Sorenshadow is right in his claim that Mazandarani people constitute 10% of the population, but as I said the source tells otherwise. CIA exeggerates the percentage of both Persians and Azerbaijanis. Interestinlgy enough Looklex or the encyclopedia of the Orient comes with numbers closer to the reality and it includes more ethnic cathegories and is more detailed. You should note that there is no ethnic census in Iran. Another thing is that Alefbe's edits are always suspicious, and tend to serve the national interest of his country and weaken Iran. His edits are always aimed at attacking Iranian statehood and national symbols in a subtle way. Now that Alefbe favores the Library of Congress and has interveined I think the new edit is indeed bad!--Babakexorramdin (talk) 18:44, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I checked it again. It is now OK. However it should be mentioned that Library of Congress forgets Amazandarani and Gilaki peoples and therefore overestimate the number of Persians.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 18:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

National Anthem of The Islamic Republic of Iran [Eng Sub]

This site: [Iran's anthem] has the National Anthem of The Islamic Republic of Iran [Eng Sub].Agre22 (talk) 17:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)agre22[reply]

Wasn't Iran part of Ancient India?

Now I know some Iranians might not like this. But before the arrival of Islam wasn't the entire region of India, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. etc. etc. one big connected land? Their were no real boarders. And before the arrival of Islam it was and the land of the Aryans? And weren't the Aryans Hindu? And spoke Sanskrit?.....I mean if you go back far enough, Indo-Iranians, And Indo-Aryans were Hindu right? This is not a dispute I hope? Cus you can find this information on wikipedia......And let's not forget many Indian's and Iranian's have similar feature's.....So if all this is true, wasn't Iran apart of Ancient India? Not India. But Ancient India then? So shouldn't the history section mention something like that? Or at least mention how Iran has cultural and historical ties with Iran and the Indus Valley civilization? And South Asia? 71.105.87.54 (talk) 05:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are right when you say "before the arrival of Islam wasn't the entire region of India, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. etc. etc. one big connected land". The land you want to name is "Iran". Xashaiar (talk) 16:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, although at that time, you would spell it as "Eran". warrior4321 06:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No. You are wrong. The Eranshahr/Eran would have that spelling. The spelling of "Iran in very ancient period (far enough in previous editor's language)" is not known in English language! Xashaiar (talk) 06:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC
Really? What time period are you referring to when you say "very ancient period", which tells us nothing. Very ancient could do 2000 BCE or even 20 AD, that's only your perspective. Give me a era or time period. warrior4321 06:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Come on! Read the message by [[Special:Contributions/71.105.87.54|71.105.87.54]. What you say about Eran is about era of Shapur the Great onwards. Even in this case the spelling Eran is almost the same as Iran and the distinction is made for conventional purpose. Otherwise most non-central iranians call Iran in fact "Eran". The word Iran is new in English language and hence it is absolutely irrelevant to say how "Iran in pre-Sassanid era" was spelled: because "Aryānām xšaçam" is one of the name you are asking for its english language spelling. Now "Iran" is the english language spelling of "a" Middle Persian word (er-an) for "ary-ān" and you "do not want" to tell me that you know what "english spelling of an Iranian word which was not (Middle) Persian" would be. Beside this explanation, you should see your mistake by looking at the article aryan which is not "ēran"!!Xashaiar (talk) 06:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
God, not once did you give me a time period of years in that whole paragraph. Are we going further back than aryana? warrior4321 15:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No as I said (by pointing to non-Middle Persian terms) I am going back as much as Achaemenids and Arsacids. Xashaiar (talk) 16:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Right, and aryana dates from the time of Zoroaster, which is further back than the Achamenids. warrior4321 03:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Recent protest movement

Is the recent protest movement in Iran covered in some other article? I see widespread news coverage of it, but no mention in this article of any protests against the regime since June 2009. See Google News for recent coverage [1]. Google News archive has over 6000 articles on protests in Iran in the past 6 months: [2]. Omitting any mention of the last 6 months of continuing protests and government responses to them leaves the article unbalanced. Edison (talk) 23:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Drives On left

I dont know how but someone should correct the info in the right side box. Drives on the LEFT not right —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.182.128.61 (talk) 10:21, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Typo in article

In the "Language and literature" section the second poem the third line of the poem written in Persian has typo. The last character should be removed. Danialfarid (talk) 19:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)Danial Farid Jan 13, 2010[reply]

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