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New category(ies) for Former hamlets of Alberta

Hi 117Avenue, I would like to start a new Former hamlets of Alberta category, potentially with a sub-category of Annexed hamlets of Alberta for hamlets that lost their hamlet status upon annexation by a non-rural municipality. The former would include all communities that were dropped off the hamlet list in the annual Municipal Codes publication over the years, while the latter would include those that were absorbed by urban municipalities (i.e., College Heights now within Lacombe; Nacmine, Rosedale, Wayne and East Coulee now within Drumheller; Hillcrest now within Crowsnest Pass; etc). Do you happen to know the correct process that should be followed to do this? Cheers, --Hwy43 (talk) 05:17, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a category is just like creating an article, either run a search for the exact name you want to use, or create a red link (like here,) then click on it. Most categories only have a list of what categories they are apart of, (like Category:Former municipalities now in Edmonton), while some have a short description, (like Category:Hamlets in Alberta). Hope this helps. How do the existing categories Defunct municipalities of Alberta and Former municipalities of Alberta fit into your plan? Perhaps a merger or move would be a better option. 117Avenue (talk) 06:10, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I'll try to do as you suggested in the coming days. Regarding Defunct municipalities of Alberta and Former municipalities of Alberta, I feel the former should be removed or redirected to the latter, and that Former municipalities now in Edmonton become a sub-category of the latter. Thoughts? Not sure exactly how this would be done, but imagine it is pretty easy to figure out. --Hwy43 (talk) 06:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It makes sense, but now it doesn't conform with other categories, see Defunct municipalities in Canada. If you choose to rename Former municipalities of Alberta all you have to do is, first create the new category, then add the template {{Category redirect|new name}} to the old one, and a bot will come and change every article that is in it. This is what I did to move all the highway articles[1] to the new category. 117Avenue (talk) 01:02, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing this out. I had a suspicion building that it may have created an inconsistency nationally. I'm a strong proponent of consistency and in this case, I simply didn't check first. In reviewing Defunct municipalities in Canada, I see that half the subcategories use defunct and half use former. I also see four use municipalities in and two use municipalities of. Which of the following formats do you feel is most appropriate for this category and all of its subs?
  • Defunct municipalities of...
  • Defunct municipalities in...
  • Former municipalities of...
  • Former municipalities in...
If we both agree that applying a consistent format is important, should we consult with others first or just do it? If the former, where do you suggest we post the discussion? Cheers, --Hwy43 (talk) 05:45, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, we should take this to the Canadian Wikipedians' notice board. 117Avenue (talk) 06:15, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now I fully understand what has gone on (or at least I'd like to think I do). Thank you for executing this. I'm still contemplating the creation of categories for Former hamlets in Alberta and Annexed hamlets in Alberta. I'll let you know what I propose to do when it comes time. --Hwy43 (talk) 04:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Specialized municipalities of Alberta

Thanks for making the resulting edits at List of communities in Alberta#Specialized municipalities. I was planning to request that you do so but you beat me to it! --Hwy43 (talk) 05:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I see you just created Category:Improvement districts in Alberta. I just created Category:Specialized municipalities in Alberta. However, both are subcategories of Category:Counties and municipal districts of Alberta, when we now know that both of these are not subcategories of municipal districts. Should we try to overhaul the category system for Alberta's municipalities using the hierachy presented here underneath Category:Settlements in Alberta? We would likely also have to consider how non-municipality settlements (hamlets, unincorporated communities, etc) would be impacted.
Also, the Category:Counties and municipal districts of Alberta should probably be moved to Municipal districts in Alberta to be as correct as possible since counties are considered municipal districts. Thoughts? --Hwy43 (talk) 04:36, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was waiting on the Specialized Municipalities to see what you thought, I didn't expect you to put it in counties and MDs. I created one for IDs because Kananaskis needed a place to go, I am trying to empty Settlements in Alberta. You listed IDs as a part of RMs on the list of communities so I thought I could get away with putting it in MDs, but I guess that isn't technically correct. In my opinion the county category should remain with that name because it is the common name and the most officially used name of a MD, unless you want to open this to a wider opinion. Would the hierarchy go something like this:
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  • Category:Local government in Alberta
    • Category:Settlements in Alberta
      • Designated places
      • First Nations reserves
      • Former municipalities
      • Metis settlements
      • Neighbourhoods
      • Rural municipalities
        • Improvement districts
        • Municipal districts
        • Special Areas Board
      • Specialized municipalities
      • Unincorporated communities
        • Ghost towns
        • Hamlets
          • Fort McMurray, Alberta
          • Sherwood Park, Alberta
        • Redwood Meadows, Alberta
      • Urban municipalities
        • Cities
        • Summer villages
        • Towns
        • Villages

117Avenue (talk) 05:14, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I temporarily placed the SMs subcategory under Category:Counties and municipal districts of Alberta until I found a more logical location and never thought to look up one level until now. So I've since moved the ID and SM categories under Category:Local government in Alberta. I'll digest the hierarchy you've provided above while doing my related research and get back to you.
I understand the case for the common name for Category:Counties and municipal districts of Alberta. How about Municipal districts and counties in Alberta per the official name of the AAMDC or Municipal districts (counties) in Alberta? Cheers, --Hwy43 (talk) 05:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps "counties and municipal districts" was chosen because it is alphabetical, but I think AAMDC is a good source to go by, I would support a move to "municipal districts and counties in Alberta". 117Avenue (talk) 00:03, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a second draft of the hierarchy for consideration based on my preliminary research on Alberta geography from provincial and federal sources.

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  • Category:Local government in Alberta
    • Category:Settlements in Alberta → Category:Communities in Alberta (Settlements are a type of unincorporated community, see below)
      • First Nations reserves
        • Communities on First Nations reserves (e.g., Stand Off, etc; alternately, could be placed as a subcategory of Unincorporated communities)
      • Former municipalities
      • Metis settlements
        • Communities on Metis settlements (e.g., Sputinow, etc; alternately, could be placed as a subcategory of Unincorporated communities)
      • Rural municipalities
        • Improvement districts
        • Municipal districts
        • Special Areas Board
      • Specialized municipalities
      • Unincorporated communities
      • Urban municipalities
        • Cities
          • City neighbourhoods (to accommodate the existing neighbourhood categories for Calgary, Edmonton and Lethbridge)
        • Summer villages
        • Towns
          • Town neighbourhoods (to accommodate Drake Landing Solar Community in Okotoks)
        • Villages

Let me know what you think. Cheers, --Hwy43 (talk) 06:09, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Urban Services Areas: I don't think it needs its own category since only two articles will be in it. Localities: will you be creating those articles, or do you know which ones to add to it? Military communities: Ralston would be the only article, because Denwood is a part of CFB Wainwright, and Lancaster Park is a part of CFB Edmonton. Settlements: will you be creating those articles, or do you know which ones to add to it? Townsites: I don't think it needs its own category since only one article will be in it. Neighbourhoods: a town neighborhoods category shouldn't be needed because neighbourhoods in towns shouldn't have articles, only three municipalities in Alberta have neighbourhood lists. Drake Landing Solar Community can stay where it is, and Category:Neighbourhoods in Alberta can be moved to Cities in Alberta, I like the name for that category considering its contents. 117Avenue (talk) 02:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
RE: Urban Service Areas and Townsites – I agree. These could be subcategorized in the future if more are created over time (we could put Redwood Meadows under either Communities on First Nations reserves or Localities in the meantime).
RE: Localities – I think we should first try to find a complete list of Alberta localities from AltaLIS or Statistics Canada before either of us create articles or add to it.
RE: Military communities – despite what the Ralston article presented until I edited it a few minutes ago, Ralston is located on the base, not south of the base. As for the other two, their redirect pages could be tagged with subcategory bringing the total to three (we could also do the same for the Medley redirect as well). For consistency, military communities on military bases should be treated the same as the proposed Communities on First Nations reserves and Communities on Metis settlements above, if you are in agreement with them.
RE: Settlements – I have a complete listing from AltaLIS. I can create those articles over time. This proposed Settlements subcategory is contingent upon Category:Settlements in Alberta being moved to Category:Communities in Alberta. A temporary Surveyed settlements subcategory could be created for the interim.
RE: Neighbourhoods – 1.) If "neighbourhoods in towns shouldn't have articles" is the case, the subcategory should be removed from the Drake Landing Solar Community article as it is the only town neighbourhood currently linking to Category:Neighbourhoods in Alberta. 2.) Do you prefer Neighbourhoods in Alberta or City neighbourhoods? It is not clear from your comment which of the two you prefer. --Hwy43 (talk) 04:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I support your move from settlements to communities. Drake Landing Solar Community is a neighbourhood, and it is in Alberta, I think it is correct to keep it in this category. Removing it would leave it in fewer categories than I feel comfortable with, an Okotoks, Alberta category would work, but there isn't one, so what do we do with it, unless it doesn't meet notability? Perhaps the new Communities in Alberta could work? I prefer to keep the name "Neighbourhoods in Alberta" as is, but under Cities in Alberta as you suggested, not Settlements in Alberta as I suggested. 117Avenue (talk) 06:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If "Neighbourhoods in Alberta" ends up being the name and is slotted under "Cities in Alberta", and if Drake Landing Solar Community remains in this category, then the location of the category under "Cities in Alberta" wouldn't be ideal given Okotoks is not a city. Perhaps leaving "Neighbourhoods in Alberta" at its current location under "Settlements(→Communities) in Alberta" is the appropriate place for it if Drake Landing Solar Community remains categorized. It could move to the desired location if and when Okotoks incorporates as a city (the town recently reconsidered changing to city status but quickly decided to stay as is). --Hwy43 (talk) 06:02, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think there enough articles for an Okotoks category of its own. If you know of any that I missed add them. 117Avenue (talk) 14:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have completed the reorganization. Communities on First Nations reserves and Métis settlements may not be a complete listing. I have not created Localities yet because be don't know what to put in it. Settlements will need to be emptied before filling. 117Avenue (talk) 04:11, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and good job! I've made a couple changes to those articles that were on my watch list. I'll take a peak at the other articles as well and also cross-refence with my running list of Communities on First Nations reserves and Métis settlements to make them more complete. --Hwy43 (talk) 19:20, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My municipalities map shows a post office called Enoch and Siksika on those reserves, while it doesn't show the three you just added. 117Avenue (talk) 23:26, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject assessment of redirects

Hi, 117Avenue. I noticed that you added WikiProject assessments to a bunch of redirects related to Alberta roads. Just so you know, redirect pages don't need assessment tags because they have no content in them, they are just a navigation tool. When those are tagged, it ends up throwing off the statistics for the number of articles in WikiProjects. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 18:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't know. But the bot that just went around tagged some like Onion Lake, Alberta, Elk River 233, Alberta, and Castle Downs. 117Avenue (talk) 20:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting, I haven't seen pages with class=redirect before, and I don't think that the assessment template knows what to do with it. Before I delete any more of those pages I'll go ask the WP:CWNB what they think about assessing redirects. --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 20:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Bounce showdown

Hmm, I didn't live here back then, and I can't find the winner of 2007 showdown. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lPJEkzD6VdsJ:www.channelcanada.com/Article1632.html+the+bounce+2007+showdown&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a The cache of google search result says something about competition in 2007, but what happened? tablo (talk) 00:18, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CIAB Call Letter Change

I don't do a whole lot of editing/discussing on Wikipedia, so apologies in advance if I'm going about this the wrong way.

I've noticed that you've done a few edits to the CIAB-FM page, so maybe you can fix this. The station has actually changed its call letters to CKNO-FM. I found this out since I work in radio and actually had the station confirm directly. Which isn't the best source, but I found this http://edmontonbroadcasters.com/ebc/stations/ that states the call letter change as well. As someone who works in the radio industry, Wikipedia is a valuable resource, so I'm just doing my help to keep it up to date. AlisonCMc (talk) 19:02, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't listen to that station on a regular basis, so I haven't heard the call letters they say on air. Bearcat has actually improved the article more than I. I will ask him why I can't find it on the CRTC website. 117Avenue (talk) 06:24, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've looked it up and the changes seem to be correct on both counts; I'll change the articles accordingly. The CRTC doesn't actually publish decisions approving or denying call sign changes, which is why you wouldn't have any luck searching their site for information on that; call signs are actually looked after by Industry Canada (which looks after the technical aspects of broadcasting, while the CRTC primarily regulates the content aspects) and can be searched at Spectrum Direct or REC Networks — although that said, in this particular case REC still has both stations listed only in "pending license" format ("EDMONTON ##"). Bearcat (talk) 15:17, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clearing that up. 117Avenue (talk) 07:17, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Municipal districts and county seats in Alberta

May I suggest Category:Municipal districts and county seats in Alberta → Category:Municipal district and county seats in Alberta?
The pluralization of Municipal districts is inadvertently misleading/confusing.
Alternately, you may want to consider Category:Rural and specialized municipality seats in Alberta or more simply Category:Municipal seats in Alberta to capture the seats for the specialized municipalities, IDs and Special Areas in addition to the MD/county seats. --Hwy43 (talk) 06:45, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, they both sound weird right now, I'll have to think about it. I didn't know specialized municipalities had "seats", what would be the seat for Jasper and Crowsnest Pass? "Municipal seats in Alberta" would be simpler. 117Avenue (talk) 00:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The three largest specialized municipalities have seats. I believe I've seen Jasper's townsite as the seat for the Municipality of Jasper. Not sure which community in the Municipality of Crowsnest Pass is its seat. According to its website contact page, its municipal office is located in Coleman. I have a recent AAMDC map at work that I can check to confirm both.
Do you know if IDs have municipal seats? I suspect no, or only Banff and Waterton Lakes NPs do.
I recall the seats for the three special areas are Hanna, Consort and Oyen. My AAMDC map may confirm this.
As you think about Municipal seats in Alberta, one of the things you could do is include an introductory statement on the category page that states something like:
The below articles are municipal seats of specialized municipalities, municipal districts/counties, special areas and improvement districts in the Province of Alberta.
I'll try to get back to you tomorrow evening. --Hwy43 (talk) 05:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't think IDs had seats, that is why I was surprised when you said they do. But I am still a little fogging on the jurisdiction there, do they have councils, who approves bylaw changes or development permits for the Hamlet of Lake Louise, like the MD councils do for hamlets elsewhere? The problem with Municipal seats in Alberta, and including the specialized municipalities, is where would the sub-category go then? Category:Rural municipalities in Alberta wouldn’t be appropriate. 117Avenue (talk) 14:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I included IDs in my initial comment as I didn't want to assume they didn't without confirming first. I too am foggy on how IDs operate. Some light is shed on MA's ID Profiles.
Here are the results of my review of the 2008 AAMD&C map at work today:
  • no municipal seats are shown for IDs (this could be due to the IDs not being members of the AAMD&C however);
  • Hanna is shown as the only municipal seat within the three special areas; and
  • Crowsnest Pass (not Coleman) is shown as the municipal seat of the Municipality of Crowsnest Pass (despite the office being located in Coleman);
  • a municipal seat is not shown for the Municipality of Jasper (this could be due to it not being a member of the AAMD&C however);
  • Fort Vermilion, Sherwood Park and Fort McMurray are the municipal seats for Mackenzie County, Strathcona County and the R.M. of Wood Buffalo respectively.
I understand the predicament on the sub-category location. The only new alternate solution that immediately comes to mind is locating it under Category:Local government in Alberta. I'll let you know if anything else comes to mind. --Hwy43 (talk) 04:08, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
IDs: It looks like they have councils, but their office is in Edmonton. Special Areas: Was it you that listed Oyen and Consort for 3 & 4 at List of communities in Alberta#Special areas? Crowsnest Pass: Crowsnest Pass is thought to be the only thing in the Municipality of Crowsnest Pass, because everything else was amalgamated, but we don't have to do what the map says, we report reality. Jasper: Jasper is the only thing in Jasper, I didn't expect anything else. Sub-category: I'm still thinking, nothing seems to be totally right. 117Avenue (talk) 05:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion has been continued at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 April 21#Category:Municipal districts and county seats in Alberta. 117Avenue (talk) 14:45, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Enoch and Siksika

Hi, what map do you have that has these communities placed on them? I'd like to check it out if they are readily available. Cheers, --Hwy43 (talk) 01:40, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well I just spent the last while searching for where we discussed this before, and I haven't been able to find it. I thought that you said the Alberta Sustainable Resource Development map that I am using isn't always right, because sometimes departments within the government don't talk to each other. If this discussion sounds familiar to you, please remind me of where you said that, its bugging me. 117Avenue (talk) 03:30, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That past discussion is located here.
I executed a place name search for both names at Statistics Canada's GeoSearch2006 and Natural Resources Canada's GeoNames Query. At both locations, no results were returned for Enoch while only the overall reserve's name (Siksika 146) was the only return for Siksika. This may not be the be all, end all however, which is why I'm interested in trying to find the map that shows the locations of these. --Hwy43 (talk) 05:54, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for finding that, I forgot about the template talk, I was looking though the article talk. I still haven’t changed my opinion since January, and this is just a point to my case. All the reserve’s articles are stubs, and all the settlements are stubs. The settlements should be discussed on the reserves’ pages. A first nation’s settlement can span across a reserve, and often the settlement name is synonymous with the reserve as a whole. It shouldn’t be compared to hamlets or ghost towns, which are smaller than a square mile section of land. 117Avenue (talk) 14:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Fortunately the topic was one of the reasons that compelled me to set up an account and it was one of my first edits, so I looked back at my earliest contributions. I've been addicted ever since! --Hwy43 (talk) 04:08, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Me too, I am coming up on one year. 117Avenue (talk) 05:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with everything you mentioned in your point above. I'm just looking at it from the different perspectives of density/built-form and officially named places, which is what they have in common with hamlets and ghost towns. I'm no longer overly concerned at this point. If I ever think about this further and end up have any revelations, I'll let you know. Cheers, --Hwy43 (talk) 04:08, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Are settlement, and non-settlement living differentiated by the nations? Do your population numbers for settlements include only those living in a certain area, or the whole reserve? 117Avenue (talk) 05:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Degrassi

Hi. You've commented at the FAR for Degrassi: The Next Generation. I think that I have taken care of all the points you have raised. Please revisit the review to see if your position to remove from WP:FA still applies. Thank you, Matthewedwards :  Chat  04:53, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm indifferent now, because I don't know what it takes to make a featured article, this is the first one I have really worked on, I don't really see any problems. 117Avenue (talk) 05:30, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Special areas in Alberta

Hi, what are your thoughts on creating Category:Special areas in Alberta as a sub-category under Category:Rural municipalities in Alberta and placing Special Areas Board and its three associated redirects within it (Special Area No. 2, Special Area No. 3 and Special Area No. 4)? --Hwy43 (talk) 05:58, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I had thought about it, if the article was split into one that discusses the area, rather than the board. 117Avenue (talk) 00:06, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Settlements of Alberta

In future when I create new articles, please enter into a discussion before making hasty moves, redirects and such. This article was just created. It is a work in progress and there are many additions to follow, some of which may evolve the article to state that would not have warranted a hasty move or redirect in the first place. Premature moves and redirects may cause difficulties in reverting these actions in the future. --Hwy43 (talk) 02:23, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Communities in Alberta

The reason the category was switched from Category:Communities in Alberta to Category:Settlements in Alberta in the first place is that "settlements" is the general standard for places — "communities", in category names, is used primarily for things like religious retreats, kibbutzes, shtetls, leper colonies and other communities of choice or circumstance. And at any rate, the categories for all Canadian provinces and territories have to be named the same way, either all "communities" or all "settlements"; Alberta can't stand alone with a different naming format than the other 12. Bearcat (talk) 07:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As explained in List of Alberta settlements, Alberta's definition of a settlment is not a municipality, it was a subdivision made before the Dominion Land Survey. 117Avenue (talk) 14:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AFD debate

Hello, there's a discussion here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kawartha Lakes municipal election, 2010 that might be of interest to you, since you edit similarly related articles. -- Earl Andrew - talk 05:54, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, 117Avenue (talk) 07:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New colors for Infobox weather table

You do not understand what I meant in my last message. I suggested a small change in the color table that you had proposed. I suggest putting the colors corresponding to each number (degree) in two colors later.

Eg, the color that represents the number (degree) 10ºC, should represent 12°C, the color that represents 12ºC should represent 14°C and so on.

Sunshine

Can you change that back on a temporary basis. It's caused the climate box to break where n/a or {{ref|1|1}} was used, see Cape Dorset, Nunavut and Cambridge Bay, Nunavut for example. I'll try and figure out which ones are the problem and fix them. At the same time Environment Canada have changed the way they report the sunshine for some stations. Places like Iqaluit still have the "Total Hours" but others like Cape Dorset now have only the "Extreme Daily". Thanks. The highly esteemed CBW presents the Talk Page! 22:02, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you using n/a for months the sun doesn't rise, shouldn't it be 0? 117Avenue (talk) 15:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not exactly. Looking at Cambridge Bay, Nunavut. The sun sets November 30 and rises January 11/12. So December is 0. By the end of January we get just over 5 hours of possible sun a day. However, for most of the month the sun is low in the sky and the Campbell-Stokes recorder would have such a heavy coat of frost that the sun would not be able to burn the card. The source, which has since changed, just left January blank but used a 0 for December. Which means I could have done the same! I find it interesting that EC was able to remove the sun recordings for several sites but didn't correct some of the really obvious errors that I pointed out to them last year. Look at the maximum temperature for January in Rankin Inlet. The highly esteemed CBW presents the Talk Page! 17:43, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LOL, 23 in January. Why then isn't the Wikipedia article correct? 117Avenue (talk) 23:47, 5 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Humidex

I used the extreme for both the wind chill and the humidex. If you're rewriting the template there's a minor thing that you may be able to fix. Look at Cambridge Bay, Nunavut#Climate. If you look at the two sources the first one is numbered 12 and the second 11 but the first should be 11 and the second should be 12. It's not a major thing and not an error but it's odd. On the other hand if you look at Edmonton#Climate the first source is used prior to the climate box so they appear in the correct sequence. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 14:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edmonton LRT

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Hannah Montana discography

The reason why I removed {{DEFAULTSORT}} is because the discography article is generally for the actual TV series not the actual Hannah Montana character. Hence why I added Category:Film and television discographies. That is what the Miley Cyrus discography page is for. But its whatever you want to do. QuasyBoy (talk) 18:40, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I got you know. 117Avenue (talk) 23:37, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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