Talk:Internet

Edit request from Isklar, 16 April 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} This states that the USA laided down the foundations of the interent we knwo and use today, from my own vague knowledge i am fairly sure it was orginally developed at CERN, the science place. Should this not be mentioned as i think telling people that the USA did this is very misleading and stealing the credit?

Isklar (talk) 16:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. As noted in the text of the {{editsemiprotected}} template, "This template may only be used when followed by a specific description of the request, that is, specific text that should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y"."

In addition, one of the core concepts of Wikipedia is verifiability. To that end, you must cite sources for factual changes to a well-established article like this. There are already sources cited in the article to prove the assertions that the United States' ARPANET was a predecessor of the Internet. --Darkwind (talk) 17:23, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I believe Isklar is thinking of CERN's role in the development of the World Wide Web, not the Internet. Tim Berners-Lee did his work there.Frappyjohn (talk) 07:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Suggested edits for clarity

I would make the following edits if this page were not protected:

1) The phrase "both commissioned by the United States government to develop projects of its military agencies to build robust,..." is clunky. I like "both commissioned by American military agencies to build robust, ..."

2) The sentence beginning "Most traditional communications media, such as telephone and television services, are reshaped or redefined using the technologies of the Internet,": the verb should be "are being reshaped or redefined."

3) The following sentence is poorly written-- this reads as if BBN established that VACs were legalized in the U.S., which is not the case: "Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN), the private contractors for ARPANET, set out to create a separate commercial version after establishing "value added carriers" was legalized in the U.S.[6]."

Looking at the source document, a rewrite is: "Bolt, Beranek and Newman (BBN), the private contractors for ARPANET, set out to create a separate commercial version after the Federal Communications Commission permitted the establishment of value-added carriers in the U.S. [6]." Rohan.maddamsetti (talk) 01:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Duplication of 'education'

A week ago, I found that User:Hallenrm had inserted a mention of self education into a random section of the article. I removed it and added a whole paragraph on the subject, since it was not mentioned. I now see that Hallenrm has gone ahead again and added another paragraph on the same subject in a different place. So now we have duplication again. I think the new sub-section and the para I added should be merged to become either a section or a paragraph, not both. What do others think? --Nigelj (talk) 10:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

A little sectioning history

At one time, there were lots more named and specific subsections in this article, "5. Modern usage: 5.1 Workplace, 5.2 Mobile devices, 5.3 Market, 5.4 Collaboration, 5.5 Remote access." And "6 Services: 6.1 E-mail, 6.2 World Wide Web, 6.3 File sharing, 6.4 Streaming media, 6.5 Internet telephony". Then, on 18 September 2009, User:Gary King came along and removed all the detailed sub-headings, amalgamating the material into the large "5 Modern uses", and "6 Services: 6.1 Information, 6.2 Communication, 6.3 Data transfer" sections we see today.[1]. Personally, I preferred the more detailed headings, as, in a large article, I think they help people see what we cover and where. Perhaps, as part of fixing this duplication, we should re-add detailed subheadings within these section, so that users like Hallenrm could more easily have seen whether we cover 'education, and if so where. Again, thoughts of all parties welcome here. --Nigelj (talk) 10:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

For someone who wants to fly in and look something up or make a short contribution, the detailed section headers would be helpful. For someone who is going to sit down and read the article, the larger sections are an improvement. It is possible that User:Gary King's changes were premature but, larger sections is where an article needs to head as it matures. --Kvng (talk) 13:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Spelling error in the History section

"Moderate" is misspelled in the second sentence of the last paragraph of the History section. HTH. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.58.205.87 (talk) 20:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

looks like someone quietly fixed this for you. --Kvng (talk) 14:29, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Request to add reference

I would like to add a reference to this --> Ryan, Johnny, A History of the Internet and the Digital Future. London: Reaktion Books, 2010