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Turkey Islamist goverment supported the raid

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/turkey-denies-offering-assistance-to-gaza-flotilla-organizers-1.320328 This should be added to the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.134.102.15 (talk) 10:35, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The government initially did what it can do so stop the flotilla (http://www.kanaldhaber.com.tr/Haber/Yasam-34/Mavi-Marmaradaki-buyuk-sir-10168.aspx). However, after the flotilla Erdoğan became a hero in Arabic world and the goverment started supporting the flotilla. Kavas (talk) 22:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lead section: improvised weapons

Tools and materials have been used as improvised weapons. The lead section, however, states that the flotilla carried improvised weapons, thus implying that the weapons would have been improvised and then brought onto the ship(s). Furthermore, "carried" is being used in the sense of "being transported to the destination", while the varios materials that are being mentioned in the lead were simply present on the ships. For the lead, the enumeration of the various items seems to be overly detailed.  Cs32en Talk to me  01:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm eating supper with a fork and a knife right now at my laptop. Am I engaging in carrying 'improvised weapons'? This is a despicably non-neutral article. Its straight up smear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.119.175 (talk) 03:25, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This knife and fork you speak of, how many Jews are you stabbing with them? If it's more than zero, you're using improvised weapons. Use non-violent means to protest their stealing your dinner next time. CoombaDelray (talk) 04:56, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • The ship cannot have been carrying "improvised" weapons, since the definition of improvised is "made or said without previous preparation". They can't have been improvised weapons before they were used as weapons. Clovis Sangrail (talk) 02:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lead section: "large sums of money"

Some of the activists on the Mavi Marmara have had larger sums of money in their possession at the time of the raid. However, there appears to be no reliable source that has provided information on whether these people "carried" the money in the sense of "transporting" it. Also, saying that "the flotilla" carried large sums of money is not the same as saying that some individuals carried large sums of money. 10.000 US dollars is a large sum for an individual to carry, but it is not a large sum if carried as part of the organization of the flotilla. "Large sums" of money, in the context of the current wording used in the lead section, rather sounds like several hundreds of thousands of US dollars, rather than a few people carrying a few thousand US dollars each.  Cs32en Talk to me  01:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

These parts should be moved to some other part of the page, it should not remain in the lead. Kavas (talk) 23:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Furkan Dogan- incorrect age cited in article

Hi, Furkan Dogan is cited as having been murdered at age 19, however his birthday is October 21st, 1991, making him 18 in may of 2010. pretty straight forward correction (compared to all the other subjective sparring above me!)- can someone authorized to edit this page apply the proper age?

thanks wikipedia :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.46 (talk) 01:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Date is passed

Seems pretty neutral to me all things considered.

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