Hello Diannaa, I got to your page through the WP:Guild of Copyeditors, mentorship program. I personally would love to try and improve my copyediting skills. Most of the articles I write are about history, archaeology, architecture (mostly in relation to the Ancient Near East and particularly Syria. Do let me know if you are still available as a mentor. Thanks. Yazan (talk) 12:32, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that's wonderful. I'm glad you noticed the Umayyad Mosque article, we're working on rewriting it to GA. We've just started scratching the surface though (The history section is being written at the moment). How do we go about doing this? Yazan (talk) 18:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here is a checklist that is used for GA reviews, and there are a bunch of tips at the bottom of the article for specific things to look for. I will have a look at the article shortly in more detail; I am finishing up reviewing something else right now. I will post some comments on the article talk page later. See you soon. --Diannaa(Talk)18:45, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Diannaa, Thanks for the prompt response, I am following the changes. But I fear this might be premature, as the article needs to be completely re-written before we attempt a copy-edit. I just don't want you to be wasting your time on sections that will probably be deleted all together shortly (although I appreciate the learning process). What do you think? Yazan (talk) 19:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(indent) How about I contact you again in a week or so when the article has taken a rough shape, and needs only minor changes and copyedits? (if it's not a bother, that is). Thanks again! Yazan (talk) 19:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have finished the copy edits. Please be sure to have a look at the sub-page as there are a couple of items you will need to deal with before the article gets its GA review. The article is very interesting. --Diannaa(Talk)04:49, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently, the person this IP has not learned his lesson. He keeps coming back to make unnecessary or inaccurate changes to the New York City Subway articles. Thanks for reverting them all. I just hope he stops coming back for good because User:Acps110 and I are very annoyed by him. BTW, how do you add em dashes to articles? I seem to be able to only add en dashes. The Legendary Ranger (talk) 14:31, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Down below where I Save page-Show preview-Show changes, there is a little menu where I can select symbols to be inserted. Do you have this menu? it says "insert" on the left and there is a selection of stuff you can add. That's where I get my dashes. --Diannaa(Talk)15:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am glad you found the answer. It's like before we had Google and we would puzzle for days over "Oh, jeez, what was that actor's name?" --Diannaa(Talk)21:55, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
LMAO - Looks like I will be too burned out for day 1 of the drive though, been busy with Wikipedia:Wiki Guides putting tabs on the pages (that I stole off the GOCE ones !! lol)
Copy edit
Hi Diannaa, I'm looking for a copy editor who can take on a 20kb article (in British English) and massage some prose from good to 1a standard, so obviously, I need an experienced copy editor (I'm useless at copy-editing my own prose!) and the GOCE seems to have taken a different direction away from FA-level copy edits. Are you up for it and, if not, do you know someone who might be? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:40, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can have a look but typically have not the expertise to get beyond A-class. Malleus is the best copy-editor but he is not accepting many requests right now. You could try him, and otherwise let me know if you want me to do it. You have not said which article? --Diannaa(Talk)21:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Malleus did my GA review and did a great job with the prose, but it could do with fresh eyes. The article is Mike Jackson. Anything you could do would be appreciated—it's a bit repetitive in places and there are bits that could do with a massage. I'm pretty sure it's just about sorted for MoS compliance,a t least. Much appreciated, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:08, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I am gonna stop now. Just to let you now, my dictionary shows "peacetime" and "drawdown" as single words. You had them as two words. If this is a British variation, please let me know, and we'll change them back. Regards, --Diannaa(Talk)01:16, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to install the Prose Size tool, and it appears to have worked, because I see the "Page size" choice in my Toolbox. However, when I click this tool, the "Prose size (text only)" line only contains the number of words that are not found in a bullet. On Alternate versions of Wonder Woman for example, it only shows 22 words, because most of the article is bulleted lists. Is this the correct function of Prose Size? Johnson487682 (talk) 17:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it is functioning correctly. For our purposes, if you choose to edit these articles, you can copy the contents into a word processing software that has a word count and use the count from that. --Diannaa(Talk)19:10, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
reference. Having a problem with citation adding
Hi fellow editor, I cannot seem to use the addons to add proper citations. Is there a problem with my addons? Thanks --SH18:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I copyedited and added a template to North Carolina Highway 13, and added the reporting template below yours, but I have no idea how to calculate the words, or how to prevent the 13 from slipping away from the article name. Advice?--DThomsen8 (talk) 03:30, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, and thank you very much for joining the Drive. I have corrected the entry for your article. The word count is calculated before you begin the copy edits using a script that you can install on your monobook.js or whatever skin you happen to be using. It's easy to install and use. Instructions to get started are Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives#Instructions for participants. I think that answers the word count question; if you have any problems installing the script or using it to obtain word counts, please let me know. I see what the second problem is and I think it has something to do with the columns in the word count template. I'll look into it some more. --Diannaa(Talk)03:51, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will go ahead and install the script, but if I have already done a copyedit, then how would I get or have a word count? --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. You have a new message at User_talk:SMasters#Potential_issue_with_copy_editor_Ankit_Maity's talk page.
Case Closed: The Raven Chaser & Copy editors
Hey Diannaa. I have for a long time now wanted to become invloved in content contributions while I continue "backend" works, but I don't have time to sit down and write articles. I think that the GOCE is something that I can do that will get me involved again in contributing to Wikipedia article wise. I have joined the drive and have done Case Closed: The Raven Chaser and would like you to review it and let me know how I did on my first run. Thanks for your time in advance. -- DQ (t) (e)22:03, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, and welcome aboard. I don't actually write articles either! I think we have plenty to do just to improve the stuff we already have on the site. I will check over your edit later. Thank you very much for signing up for the drive. --Diannaa(Talk)22:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Copy edits were pretty well done on this article. I added a few more links but that's about all. Thank you for your work. --Diannaa(Talk)01:28, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have signed up for the March copy editing drive and would be glad if you could have a look at my first effort, Sangaria, India. Actually it was not a good choice for a first try as it included a number of technical terms and abbreviations unfamiliar to me, but I did the best I could. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You did very well, especially with the linking. The more articles about India that you do, the easier it gets, as you become familiar with the terminology and recognise terms even when they are misspelled. Thank you for joining the copy edit drive. --Diannaa(Talk)19:37, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
FYI
Hi Fellow Editor, I have had to revert this, as the user had left abusive messages on his own talk page. He may need a further block. Thanks --SH13:09, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, S-H. I have removed the user's talk-page access. Now if they wish to apply for unblock they will have to send an e-mail to the higher authorities. Thank you for reporting this problem. --Diannaa(Talk)14:48, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's at FLC. It's short. You can handle it. Will be a good way to learn! Plus I've got something cooking for Rexx and Jack. TCO (talk) 19:57, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
*big sigh* Well I have been looking at it and have found some improvements I can suggest so I will go ahead and review it. I got a RL thing to do tonight but will get it done by the end of the weekend. Plus if you are planning a surprise for those two guys, that would be fun :7 --Diannaa(Talk)22:59, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
R U available to mentor?
I'd like to participate in the backlog elimination drive to improve my editing skills (I'm new). Are you available to review my edits? Octopet (talk) 21:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I can do that! Thank for for joining up. Do you want to post articles here that you want checked? Or I could review the ones you post on the Drive page if you like, and give you feedback. --Diannaa(Talk)22:21, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How do I post them to the drive page? I've reread that page several times and still don't understand how to participate... duh! Here's one I'm working on now: [1]. I changed it from future tense to past tense in order to correct the "unsourced predictions". If you think I've done this correctly, I'll remove that tag. Thank you Octopet (talk) 22:34, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This article was improved quite a bit by your edits. Here are some more edits that were required:
Film titles should be in italics
Bulleted lists that are sentence fragments do not get periods
There were still some items that were future tense instead of past
There were some spelling errors that you missed
Headers should not be in capital letters
I have removed the "update" and "crystal" tags. Articles that you wish to include for the copy edit drive should be marked with a {{copy edit}} tag as the idea is to reduce the number of articles with that tag. I think a good place for you to start is by reading this page, as it is a step-by-step guide that details what to do while copy editing. I will check out the Bihar article and get back to you.
Your edits are good so far. Here are a couple of additional edits I added in the section you have completed:
You are correct to change the date format to British style as the article is about India. However the comma is omitted; i.e. 18 August 2008
Punctuation needs to be placed in front of the ref tag
"alluvial fan" is a better link than "alluvial"
Watch out for the word "also". I almost always remove it.
There is no point linking Kosi as it just goes to a disambiguation page and we have already linked Kosi River
Watch for over-linking in the remainder of the article. Items should be linked once in the lead and once in the body of the article. Please let me know when you have completed some more work and I will go over it for you. Cheers, --Diannaa(Talk)05:15, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Copy editing backlog
I have been participating in the copy editing backlog elimination drive. I have not been active in copy editing before, and I hope that the edits that I have done so far are up to the GOCE standards. Could you take a look at some of my edits listed on the backlog drive page and let me know what I can improve? Thanks! Dac04 (talk) 23:08, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for reviewing my edits and for the feedback. I've been enjoying working to improve these articles and cut down on the copy editing backlog. Dac04 (talk) 18:08, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you ever so much for that, I know you are busy most of the time, and particularly during a drive! (The discussion was on the GOCE coordinator talk page).
I was pretty paranoid then lol - a lot of the changes I wanted to do I considered too big for a copy-edit on such a high class ("A") article. Copy editing and reworking are pretty indistinct on lower class articles - I should not assume that A class are exempt from such changes. I will try to be less timid in future. In the past I normally ran the dashes script when finished, more recently I have been running it at the start. I left it as I had asked for the check, I won't next time lol.
Only one question:
"In 1996 a timber fragment from the Chesapeake Mill in Wickham, England," was delinked and returned back to
"In 1996 a timber fragment from the Chesapeake Mill was returned to the United States."
I linked them as it seemed to me that readers would assume it was Chesapeake in the U.S. and I wanted to ensure they could find the Mill article (as well as point out it was in the UK). I just wondered what the reasoning was behind that one?
These articles were already linked a little higher up on the page. The article is not long enough to warrant muliple links. I was surprised, too, by how much there was to do as the article was already A-class. The last one I worked on, British Commandos, was an epic ordeal to get promoted. It was really hard; I felt like Jack Nicholson when Warren Beatty was directing Reds. Nicholson said it just about drove him mad. "Just tell me what you want and I'll do it," said Jack. He had no idea how to give Beatty what he wanted and Beatty refused to articulate it. Beatty asked for take after take after take on virtually every scene but refused to give the actors any direction. 2.5 million feet of film were used in the production. --Diannaa(Talk)19:02, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers for explaining it, I was fairly sure that was the reason but with all those "Cheaspeakes" I think I had lost track myself at that point as to what was coming from where and especially in that section.
Wow, Warren Beatty, don't stop the camera between takes? sheesh, no wonder he didn't direct many films - "Shall we ask Warren? Not unless you get me an extra $30 million for film! Ha ha!" lol Chaosdruid (talk)
No worries. The idea is to develop a cadre of top-notch copy editors that can work on teh wiki in the years to come. Regards, --Diannaa(Talk)22:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
February 2011 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive Awards!
The Cleanup Barnstar
This Cleanup Barnstar is given to Diannaa for wikifying 3 articles, a total of 10,839 words(with rollover). Thanks for participating, and please be sure to help out at our next drive! Sumsum2010·T·C·Review me!03:10, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
why delete an article that had a hand on request and which had arguments being added for keeping it, in such a short time
Hi, please inform on why the page Renaissance 2011 BITS Pilani was deleted despite a hang-on template being added and arguments that WERE BEING ADDED at the time to contest the allegations that it was promotional.
Please advice what path to take if Wikipedia does not allow this: Independent listing of information on real content that was brought out at a particular event.
Also, would it be too much to expect from a wikipedian to respect the hang-on request and desist from speedy deletion of an article to give it some chance for proving itself? the event is ongoing and we cannot be so lightning-quick that we can conclusively prove everything in less than 5 minutes which seems like the time taken to make this deletion decision. Nikhilsheth (talk) 05:08, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is not a web host or the place to start a blog. That is not the purpose of Wikipedia. If your event is notable enought for an encyclopedia article, there will be write-ups in newspapers and other reliable sources after the event, and then an article could be written. Sorry that the reply could not be more favourable. --Diannaa(Talk)05:12, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Korean Films
Hello, saw that you removed the section for films about the Korean War. Is the war's depiction in these moves offensive? Or are they simply inaccurate? Perhaps one sided? Thank you. Bolton76 (talk)05:14, 06 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All the material on films and other pop-culture items was moved to the new article, Korean War in popular culture, in May 2010. The rationale was that the article was getting too long for people to load who are on dial-up or have slow internet connections. Even myself with a fairly good internet connection will go make myself a cup of tea while Korean War is loading! I copied over to that article any films you mentioned in your addition which were not already listed there. I posted all this to Talk:Korean War at the time I removed it earlier today. Regards, --Diannaa(Talk)05:19, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am removing your post about airborne as well as it is copied from Airborne forces and like I said the Korean War article is already too big. Just add a link to that article instead please. Please don't add any more stuff to Korean War that is available elsewhere on this wiki. --Diannaa(Talk)05:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Diannaa, Agree on all counts. Perhaps in the future it would be best to add a heading, then hyperlinks to the wiki article? Planning on adding more about the initial hours of the conflict, before American intervention. Specifically about the ROK navy actions, ROK Army I corps, II corps and III corps. There is little coverage, since most texts are written from the American perspective, and in English. Thanks, B Bolton76 (talk)15:14, 06 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Any insight or views from non-American sources would be welcome. The one-sidedness of the article has been problematic in the past, though no one has complained for a little while (we must be improving!). I will do another round of copy edits after the March drive and that tends to trim length. Thank you very much for your interest in improving this article. Cheers, --Diannaa(Talk)15:36, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Any ideas on pulling in links and information from non-English sources? One example being memorials in Turkey, China and Europe. There is a link for the Chinese memorial, and I have a post card of the memorial, however there is no other information. Is the post card a fake? I would think not, and I'm not hiking up the the Yalu to find out. Thanks, B Bolton76 (talk)01:00, 07 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Partisan websites are permitted within reason. This one is a site put up by the Chinese government. As I am not experienced in assessing the reliability of sources, you might like to ask at the reliable sources notice board at WP:RSN. --Diannaa(Talk)19:39, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review
Thank you very much for the the review. Agree with most of your changes. In some cases, are even changing back to how I had it before (not all, but when I see that I know we must be close). Few questions though.
1. Sentence case or title case. Tony has asked us to use sentence case in the past. (I think for article, book, and website titles). I really don't care, and maybe I was doing it wrong, but would like to do it one way all the time. I will ask him as well.
2. US versus U.S. (I normally let people change those around at will, had them change 7 times on Painted turtle and just smiled, as long as they are changed throughout article). U.S. is older (and the more common usage in the United States). US newer and more common outside. I think given the naming of this article, I should stick to the periods.
Both Chicago Manual of Style and our own MoS call for book titles to be capitalised (Chicago 8.154, 8.155). They are done in sentence style in library catalogues and on Worldcat (Chicago 8.156). The U.S. - US thing, I agree that it should match the article title in this case. Chicago only changed this in their newest edition so you are right, it's in transition right now. --Diannaa(Talk)15:00, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Diannaa
Thanks for your comments on the above page. I cheerfully admit to being bamboozled by the process and notifications. (First created page issues)
1. Copyright Issue: Do I need to get a specific Email from the Artists website to say that the material used is free-issue press material and not copyrighted?
2. Notability Issue: I accept that I need to prove notability and will work to compile enough material to satisfy requirements.
3. Conflict of Interest Issue: The artist is not client of mine or directly connected to me in any way. I admit to being a fan and so there is a bias problem. I can work to make the article less biased but do I need to add a statement to cover this whole issue?
As regards the Joscho Portrait Live.jpg pic used in the article, I added Creative Commons license information and thought the notifications were inviting me to delete them once this was added. Instead I've got a Baseball Watcher Last warning. Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomcan (talk • contribs) 23:10, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was looking at the notability issue and there are several recent write-ups that are coming up on Google but they are all in German! But I think you could make a good case for notability here. The photo File:Joscho Portrait Live.jpg appears at http://bandonthewall.org/events/2648/ so we definitley have a copyright problem there. This image will have to be deleted right away. The other picture does not come up in a Google search but without the proper proofs in place it will shortly be deleted as well. Pictures that people have taken themselves and uploaded will have a little box of "metadata" that shows info about the camera used and the number of pixels and stuff like that. So that is the sort of thing people looking at freshly uploaded images will check.
I know it's a little (or a lot) more trouble, but if you could write an article in your own words using relevant facts from the sources available online or on liner album notes and so on, that would be better than getting copyright permission for the article you already have in place, as the exisitng article is too promotional in tone and would need a total re-write to be accepted. Make sure you make a claim for notability as Wikipedia defines it and you will have a good shot of getting an article in place that will not be tagged for speedy deletion. Good luck. --Diannaa(Talk)23:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Java link
Hello Diannaa - You removed the link I had put to jconcurrency.com and flagged it as spam.
This is not spam - it is an invaluable aid to the understanding of Java concurrency. Java champion Yakov Fain is calling for Oracle to include it in their Java tutorial.
http://yakovfain.javadevelopersjournal.com/java_concurrent_animated.htm
I won't restore it if you don't believe it belongs, but I can't think of a more relevant link to this topic!
Thanks, Victor Grazi - vgrazi@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vgrazi (talk • contribs) 03:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So I went through this article for the drive and checked it off my list, but I think it could really use a review. It seems that it was originally machine translated, and there were a few rough parts for me to sort out. When you have a moment, would you mind taking a look at it? Thank you! -Pax85 (talk) 04:39, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to mention that if you are too busy, thank you anyway! I just figured since the coordinators take a look at a portion of each person's articles anyway, that particular one might be a good candidate. :) Thank you again, especially for the hard work you do over at GOCE!!!Pax85 (talk) 23:15-ish, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
I don't mind doing it; its just that ever since I got home I have been vandal-fighting. It's relentless right now but it normally tapers off later in the evening so I will look it over when I get back from the gym. --Diannaa(Talk)23:23, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Pax85! I saw you out there hunting vandals. I have checked the article and your edits were very good. I did a few minor punctuation changes and reduced the over linking. Regards, --Diannaa(Talk)04:03, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to RPP your user page last night while the vandalism was going on, but then noticed you were an admin and could semi-protect or protect it yourself if you wanted to. Anti-vandal fighting has been so much less stressful since my user page was semi-protected. —Tom Morris (talk) 10:37, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Tom, and thanks for your concern. The user pages are protected and I have added protection to the most recent archives and stuff. The talk page is intentionally left unprotected. Cheers, --Diannaa(Talk)15:08, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Edit notice
Hi Diannaa, Can you please put an edit notice on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Members/Welcome, to ask people not to edit that page because it is used for transculsion to many other pages? Some people have been putting in thank you notes. Perhaps they can be redirected to the main talk page or even the membership department talk page. Thanks! – SMasters (talk) 08:20, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Should I be taking credit for In-situ capping of subaqueous waste? You did most of the work, and should get credit. I am learning what to do from looking at your changes, though. Wade Dump got me started with an environmental article, so I was not afraid of another one, and I do have an engineering and technical background. --DThomsen8 (talk) 13:33, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would say Yes, go ahead and take at least partial credit, as you worked on the article over the course of several days as well. --Diannaa(Talk)14:45, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Diannaa! You have been very helpful in the past, so I was wondering if you can take a look at Talk:Siege of Szigetvár/GA2, and copyedit the article. The article is on hold for the prose to be copy-edited and turned into plain English. I also made a request on 'WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests'. Thanks. --Kebeta (talk) 14:16, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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