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Arrest Warrant by Nigeria and Interpol

http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/nigeria-to-interpol-arrest-dick-cheney/19742388

Major breaking developments related to Mr. Cheney needs to be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phantom85 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed the Nigeria warrant edit and right now it looks pretty NPOV to me. Thanks.Jarhed (talk) 04:18, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. I have additionally updated the issue. Jusdafax 09:29, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is a ridiculous inclusion for Cheney. While it is notable for Haliburton the connection to Cheney is spurious at best. He was clearly targeted because he is a well-known figure, but aside from that doesn't appear to have anything to do with this. Removed as a WP:COAT and a WP:BLP violation. Arzel (talk) 18:21, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please continue this discussion at the disputed content section below.--Jarhed (talk) 05:07, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Settlement Of Oil Mine in Nigeria

Oil Mine Settlement

Dear Respected Honorable Vice President Dick Chenney, Everything is written strictly as per rules and standards and following all ethical values and laws by an International Justice Court Netherland .So please it doesnot mean to bribe or any fraudlent history only way to keep healthier relationship with World .Actually here task is the movement of peace across the world and deserving for Honorable Former President George Bush and Honorable Vice President Dick Chenney for an achievement of Nobel Award with contribution of India myself .So being global means patriotism towards our nation both United States Of America and India. So please cooperate me for an International Justice Court France to put up the petition and held all legal documents to make a mark in the history of America and India .Awaiting for your better co operation and your patriotic reply from the bottoms of the heart . Thanks, Yours Truly, Sahasrabudhe Anand Shamrao

You seem smart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.54.8.216 (talk) 19:12, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

discussion - content dispute

This content is under dispute and has been in and out multiple times, please attempt more discussion to achieve a compromise or a consensus, thanks Off2riorob (talk) 01:58, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • - In early December 2010, the Nigerian government filed corruption charges against Cheney in connection to his role as the chief executive of Halliburton. The case relates to a former subsidiary of Halliburton (KBR) which admitted to bribing Nigerian officials in a construction bid. In mid-December, 2010, the case was settled when Nigeria agreed to drop the corruption charges against Cheney and Halliburton in exchange for a $250 million settlement.

Now look here, On Dec 13 I read the inclusion about the Nigerian case. At that time it was a bare mention of the facts of the case and I had no problem with it. *Now* the entire thing looks like an unscrupulous shakedown of an innocent company. Do you mean to tell me that bona fide corruption charges were *dropped*? For this information to be included here, it *must* indicate that Cheney is blameless because there is absolutely no proof of wrongdoing.--Jarhed (talk) 05:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/14/dick-cheney-nigeria-bribe_n_796726.html

The charges weren't just "dropped." $250,000,000 in "fines" are being negotiated. If this were a "unscrupulous shakedown" no company would agree to that. Sufdub (talk) 05:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh please. Cheney had *nothing* to do with this and was indicted by the Nigerian government as a shakedown. I suspect that any company that wants to do business in Nigeria has to play this game.Jarhed (talk) 19:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.ww4report.com/node/9338

Update: Halliburton and Nigeria agreed upon a $35 million settlement. We need to now consider how this should be phrased in this article. Sufdub (talk) 05:43, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to agree. Several other editors did as well. Some though, some of whose past editing histories are of interest, appear to want to censor this information from Cheney's Wikipedia article. And it appears they will wikilawyer the issue to get what they want. The only way to get this obviously important information into the article is spend a fair amount of time at it to get past all the specious arguments thrown in the path of including this information, which in my view comes down to Halliburton making a payoff to get their former CEO off the hook. I support your view wholeheartedly. Best wishes, Jusdafax 06:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your assumption of bad faith is a violation of WP guidelines and harmful to the mission of the encyclopedia. In the future, I recommend that you adhere to WP guidelines and policies while working on controversial articles.Jarhed (talk) 19:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)Possibly better refs than ww4report...
The original text under the first bullet point in the OP above looks fairly accurate if 35 is substituted for 250. If some source quoted Halliburton as issuing the usual boilerplate about "...does not constitute an admission of guilt...", that could be added. Also could include something from Cheney's attorney as shown in the CNN article, though it really doesn't the comments really don't say much. Fat&Happy (talk) 06:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds like an approach that will meet the requirements of WP:NPOV. Jusdafax 06:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also back that approach. Sufdub (talk) 06:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that proposal has not been contested for four days. Could someone follow through and add this suggestion to the article and see if it becomes contested. I am new and cannot change a semi-protected page. If this is against procedure or something, then would someone please suggest how we can get this moving along? Sufdub (talk) 22:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, based on these discussions, I added exactly what was suggested by the outspoken community (once I finally had enough contributions to edit the page). Sufdub (talk) 04:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I for one thank you. Agree that lack of dispute allows you to go ahead and post. The material is well-sourced and belongs in this article. Jusdafax 05:39, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am fine with the Nigerian mention as it currently stands, thanks for your work.Jarhed (talk) 19:20, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The editing dispute over the Nigerian story seems to have been "settled" now, but I would like to propose revisiting it briefly. If you look at major media, this story had no lasting "impact" beyond news-of-the-day status. For it to take up a large, full paragraph in a Wikipedia "BLP," which has permanence and is always the top result in a Google web search for "Dick Cheney" makes the article - and by extension - Wikipedia look less credible.
Invoking specific WP policies, it seems to principally violate WP:WEIGHT but also WP:NOTE. Nigeria has systemic corruption, so charges and counter-charges, even by government prosecutors, should be viewed with a grain of salt. They know that Cheney is a public figure, like say Tony Hayward, so naming him in person in an indictment filed 11 years after he left Halliburton is a bit of a publicity stunt to get a larger settlement. Now that the Nigerians have gotten what they wanted, I don't think this story deserves permanent enshrinement in its present form in a BLP.
There are municipalities in Vermont that have issued arrest warrants for Cheney for purported war crimes if he "comes to town," so they can attempt extradition to the Hague. Once again, a publicity stunt to make a point. I vote for excising the Nigerian story completely, or boiling it down to one sentence, and linking to the Halliburton article, which has an appropriate mention. 76.245.26.70 (talk) 02:00, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For the reasons you stated, I believe it should be reduced to a single sentence. Drrll (talk) 02:06, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK, done, in the spirit of WP:BOLD. Before anybody gets up in arms that the article has been "scrubbed" of controversy (the old text is just commented out at the moment; at some later date it would be better to remove it entirely to speed up page loading for a very long article), please click on the concluding link to the "Controversies" section of the Halliburton article. 68.15.192.227 (talk) 15:54, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit suggestion

Perhaps change "Criticisms of Obama" to "Criticisms of Barack Obama". It just seems more encyclopedic to me, especially for people who come to the page especially to find out about his criticisms of Obama. I know there are really no other Obama's he'd criticise, but it just seems more appropriate. Ignore it if you want, just a suggestion. 60.234.236.221 (talk) 02:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Health

I feel that Dick's health issues could be better covered. Especially in light of information regarding improvements in treatment for people who have similar conditions; after all he really did go through the mill and yet has been an example of what modern medicine can do. Also, there is perhaps room for more NPOV quotes by respected commentators and political friends and foes who feel that ongoing stress etc from his heart complaints affected Cheney's personality (and possibly judgement)as time went by.Phil Wardle (talk) 09:18, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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