Talk:Soundgarden

reunion with tad doyle?

http://www.earcandybeat.com/?q=node/37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cchMa9zMhzk someone look into this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.69.68.216 (talk) 23:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

It's already mentioned in the article, I think.BP322 (talk) 18:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

That would be a horribly retarded idea. He butchered their songs. Plus, a reunion with Cornell is already floating around online... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.174.219.202 (talk) 02:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Reunite?

Anyone else here hoping they reunite? I fucking love Soundgarden...! yeah i reckon everyone here wants em to reunite, but i dont chris's vocals could take it... ▓░ Dark Devil ░▓ ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) 09:39, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Why do you say that, he still sounded damn good with Audioslave. FinalWish 00:09, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

well from the live videos on youtube, hes starting to sound better now, but in some live videos of audioslave it sounded like he was straining his voice a bit ▓░ Dark Devil ░▓ ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) 12:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

K So I have been hearing Soundgarden is reuniting for a 2008 tour. Can someone confirm that? TtertNoslen 00:23, 29 May 2008

Really? I would love if they can return. Chris voice can't make those great notes now.--190.138.57.161 (talk) 04:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Random blaber

Soundgarden rules, especially Ben Shepherd, he rules all, and Kim Thayil is okay, but Cornell and Cameron are awesome as well

Yes they all kick ass, Cameron is the best rock drummer of our time and is tearing it up with pearl jam. The live stuff is incredible.

Thayil

tom Morello is better then him! Thayil is a better guitarist than any that chris, ben & matt have worked with or ever will work with. You play the solo to Like Suicide and get back to me.

Thayil is way better than chris will ever be Jobe6 02:17, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I can play the solo to Like Suicide, and every other solo he did on their albums. And I don't think it's fair to compare Chris to Kim, Chris was only a rythm guitarist on Superunknown, before that he didn't play any guitar. And of course Kim was the lead guitarist so... Ladysway1985 9/17/05

uhh actually Chris has played guitar since the wee beginning. JobE6 03:11, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Cornell used to play drums as well as vocals right at the beginning but then they got someone else to play drums so that Cornell could concentrate on vocals. I think it must have been soon after that he became the rhythm guitarist. I seem to remember seeing a live video of him playing rhythm in Loud Love. In the Badmotorfinger albums notes, it says Chris plays Gibson Guitars.

Almost all the cool solo's are Kim's work. I suggest you watch the SNL version of Pretty Noose.

Cornell did not play guitar at the beginning, in the Soundgarden "biography", New Metal Crown, it states Cornell didn't start playing guitar until after the songs on Deep Six, or right before Screaming Life; I can't remember which. --199.29.6.2 22:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Cornnel plays a gitar in the Pinkpop Fest - Holland 08-06-1992. That's a example.--190.138.57.161 (talk) 04:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Soundgarden

All the separate contributors to Soundgarden were/are brilliant, full stop. Otherwise the amazing and original music they created would not be here today. When put together, however, they formed the even more amazing Soundgarden. It was their combined efforts that made this milestone in Grunge (and mainstream) music history - basically, what does it matter how great each was separately. They are all great musicians. But together they formed one of the greatest bands in music history (in my opinion).--Mozz 00:20, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Instrumental?

The article's intro says: "Soundgarden was [...] instrumental in creating the sound that came to be called grunge." While this is of course very poetic, I think something like "Soundgarden helped to define the sound that came to be called Grunge," or "Soundgarden pioneered the sound that came to be called Grunge." The use of the idiomatic "to be instrumental in sth." is slightly confusing in a music context; readers could misread or misinterpret and end up thinking that Soundgarden's instrumental work was the birth of Grunge, which is simply not fair to Chris Cornell. ;-) If a frequent contributor to this article agrees with me, please go ahead and change the sentence. --Netvor 07:08, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

I think the minimal of audioslave should be on this page because imho it's quite disgraceful to have Audioslave's "hit album" in a article about Soundgarden.

Agreed...It can be mentioned that Cornell went on to form Audioslave but I don't think that the info about Audioslave should be mentioned in this article. Flyerhell 08:23, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I deleted the audioslave thingy. it shouldnt be on a soundgarden article. its only suppose to be about soundgarden. KeyLime 3:05, 27 October 2005

EPs

Were erased with no reason have put them backKsprayDad 04:59, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Loud Love was a 4 track single, so should it be under the EP section? It is at the moment, but I disagree

The band's roots

This article did not mention a very important fact: A cousin of one of the band members is Gidget G. Does anyone know which band member?

--How about we take a step back? Who the hell is Gidget G?

--- Perhaps he means Marilyn Manson's original junkie bassist Gidget Gein? Presumably, also, "very important fact" was intended as a joke... Artsfiend 02:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Current members?

Uh, the band are split up (*sniff*) as far as I know. How can it have "current members"? - THE GREAT GAVINI {T-C} 17:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

A limitation of the current "musical artist 2" infobox. Hopefully there's movement underway to merge that and the "band" infobox, which would be ideal. Tarc 03:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

The guy in charge of the infobox template says that "current members" isn't supposed to be used by defunct bands - that the lineup should be listed under "former members". I personally think that's ridiculous, and that an easy solution would be to simply switch "Current members" to just "Members" so that "Former members" is usable. But he doesn't feel that way. -- ChrisB 19:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Song page clean up

Serious Clean up is needed on many of the song pages, I've edited a few, but much more needs to be done...--Msl747 00:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Digging the Garden of Sound

Anyone ever heard of the album "Digging the Garden of Sound"? Can't seem to find any info on this album, and I don't have a physical copy to look at. I'm thinking it's a bootleg of some sort but I'm not sure.

I was on another website and it listed a "Garden of Sound" as a bootleg of theirs. Maybe that's what you're thinking about. Sherlock32 23:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, it was called "Digging the Garden" not "Garden of Sound". Sorry. Sherlock32 17:15, 27 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sherlock32 (talk • contribs)

Stolen Prayers

Speaking of bootlegs, what exactly was Stolen Prayers? When was it "released"? When were each of the individual songs recorded? Is it worthy of mention in the SG article? For some reason, stolen prayers is the only bootleg I've repeatedly heard mentioned by name. I've heard some of the songs on it, and it's definitely a decent CD. I'm still trying to find the demo version of Flutter Girl which is on it. Many fans consider it better than the version on Euphoria Morning. I'm rambling, sorry. --199.29.6.2 22:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

This is quite a short article for such a seminal band.

For example, the Nirvana and Pearl Jam articles are a lot longer...--HisSpaceResearch 18:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

You think THIS article is short? You should check out Rob Zombie's page.

Yeah, but Nirvana and Pearl Jam were much more successful and had more of a lasting effect in the music industry (although I think Soundgarden was way better than both of those bands). Sherlock32 23:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

grammy awards for black hole sun and spoonman

apart from the pages for the songs, black hole sun and spoonman, is it mentioned anywhere on the soundgarden page that they received these grammys? ▓░ Dark Devil ░▓ ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) 11:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

members

it doesnt look good with the four main members combined with the other former members. for example see nirvana's page. it separates the three main members from the other members ▓░ Dark Devil ░▓ ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) 01:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing. I'm going to separate the members that used to be in the band, with the members that were still there in the end. I have yet to see a defunct band that has a former/now member style like this article does. The Beatles is an example. Xihix 23:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

There was a period where the infobox template guidelines "required" listing all members of a defunct band as former members. However, I think we recently found consensus that if a band had a particular notable lineup (e.g., The Beatles, Nirvana), it was acceptable to list them as "members". With Soundgarden, I definitely think that's the right call. -- ChrisB 04:18, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it looks much better this way. Beve 12:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. I think it's confusing to list members of a defunct band in the "current members" field. I also think featuring a notable lineup is subjective; there could be many opinions about which lineup was most notable. The infobox guidelines indicate that only the "former members" field should be used. (see Template:Infobox_Musical_artist#Past_members). Strobilus 23:38, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

discography - studio albums

should screaming life/fopp be listed as a studio album or not? because it is a compilation album... their a-sides album is also a compilation, and it isnt listed under studio albums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark Devil (talk • contribs) 10:11, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Years active / reunion

At the top under years active, it says 2007-Present. Did they really reunite or what? If so, then something should be said about it in the article. Sherlock32 23:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

One idiot friend of mine said he saw a re-united Soundgarden perform without Cornell, but I think he was mistaken. The band has not, and will never, reunite. Frvernchanezzz (talk) 09:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Another person is now claiming that they reunited. If they haven't actually reunited than why say they have? Sherlock32 (talk) 00:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Will never reunite, huh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.232.5.178 (talk) 21:27, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

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Soundgarden+Audioslave=?

Why the fuck is the Audioslave page bigger then Soundgarden, it doesen't make sense. The Page is even shorter then that on Norsk (bokmål) wikipedia. [[--83.108.143.116 (talk) 00:11, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

The origin of the name itself?

Is it true that Soundgarden got their name from an art exhibit in Seattle that was known as "The Soundgarden?"

If this is true, I think it would really nice to see that somewhere in the article. It is a really short article now that I think of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Russbee51 (talk • contribs) 05:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

It's already in there. Beve (talk) 17:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Post-break-up: 1998–present

It's wrong Wellwater Conspiracy realesed their first studioalbum in 1997.--Wellwater Conspiracy (talk) 09:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Sections

Why are the sections in the page so small. Look at Alice in Chains page. Thats what you call a good writen article. Hilsen --Wellwater Conspiracy (talk) 13:27, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Album articles

Why are pages like Superunknown and Down on the upside bigger then the Soundgarden page. WHY WHY --Wellwater Conspiracy (talk) 19:33, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

You now what i've found out that i would keep on editing again when i saw this good i love it. --Wellwater Conspiracy (talk) 19:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Early stuff: stoner metal?

Before Superunknown and Down on the Upside, Soundgarden had a pretty distinctly different style, and used a fair amount of psychedelic imagery. They sounded a lot like some of the bands that often get credited as 'stoner metal' like Kyuss. I doubt there's anything significant enough to back up this statement for credit on the main page, but I thought it was worth mentioning; maybe the only reason they're not is because they were from Seattle instead of California. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.142.137 (talk) 02:10, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd actually say that their earlier stuff was grunge, but they moved away from that and I'd call their later stuff metal. Not that I'm hugely hung-up on genres. Beve (talk) 20:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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Soundgarden reunion and new album

First its a rumor that soundgarden is goin to reunite which may be true as Cornell said and they are goin to release a album under the name B-Sides.http://www.nyrock.com/interviews/1999/cornell_int.asp. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 18:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Sound Garden redirects here... Correct?

I mean, is this a question of notability, the band being more notable than the installation or something? Anyway, I'm putting a disambiguation template that all this time was forgotten for some reason, and I just wanted to say that I don't really think it should redirect here. Litis (talk) 19:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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Time Signature Correction for "Rusty Cage"

The time signature for "Rusty Cage" is stated to be 19/8, but the opening verses and chorus is actually a 4/4, and the Coda is comprised of a pattern of repeated time signatures as follows: 6/4, 6/4, 2/4, 5/4.

19/8 indicate a more Chant Like Form that is absent of Pulse. Circa 9th Century, or 20th century abstract musical style a la John Cage, or George Crumb (i.e., "Black Angels" which is based on the number 13). Composing in complex time signatures for a pure mathematical reason, not necessarily aesthetically pleasing.

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Unofficial website

This should be added to the list of external links...

http://web.stargate.net/soundgarden/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.65.34.211 (talk) 06:54, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

No fansites per Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided.-5- (talk) 13:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Bill Nye appearance

Do you think their appearance on the "Sound" episode (where it shows the band sans Cornell playing "Kickstand" in the studio and the sound engineer basically explains what his job is in the studio) of Bill Nye the Science Guy is notable enough to mention? If so where should it be placed? Bill Nye was a very seminal tv show, they still show it in schools today. Sherlock32 (talk) 01:20, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Are Soundgarden a stoner rock band?

Well, I personally have never seen anything Kyuss like with Soundgarden an album review from Rolling Stone specifically mentions them as, "its standard-bearers during the Nineties". Should it be in the infobox. Rockgenre (talk) 18:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

They definitely played stoner rock at times, but I would rather just have that mentioned in the "Style" section rather than the infobox, since the infobox should be pretty general, and the article gets into specific details. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.166.162.94 (talk) 15:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Reunion has NOT been confirmed

So why is there a section on it? See the forum on Chris' website - there is lots of debate as to what the twitter/facebook message meant. For now, we cannot state on Wikipedia that SG has reunited —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.186.70.39 (talk) 03:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

We can because we have reliable sources that are reporting the announcement of the reunion.--Cannibaloki 23:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

"Superunknown" music video

I was wondering if a music video for "Superunknown" is not on the list of music videos (in Discography). According to some web pages and even the count of SoundgardenVEVO on youtube, there is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwdjreJKggg But there's no mention to it in wikipedia, i think. So what about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.26.130.59 (talk) 00:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Pictures

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Updating Band member page

In reading about the band, I found the List of Soundgarden band members page, and noticed that it has zero information on the reunion and upcoming compilation release. Could someone with more knowledge on the band's current state, and is familiar with this main band page, update that page to reflect recent events? I think some kind of update is needed, especially if there are more upcoming events for the band. Good luck, and thanks. --Mtjaws (talk) 17:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

I've never even noticed that page before, and wonder if it is really necessary. The main Soundgarden article isn't overly long currently, I don't see why whatever info in the band member one couldn't be merged there. Tarc (talk) 17:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Genre

The genre should be updated on the band page and all album pages to completely remove all references to any form of metal as the genre. Soundgarden in no way resembles metal. Anyone how puts that there has obviously not listened to Soundgarden before. --Jimv1983 (talk) 15:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

For the most part, Soundgarden is a psychedelic metal band. The genre that needs to be removed is grunge. Soundgarden in no way resembles grunge.

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Concerns with Reunion, new album and subsequent events (2010–present)

There are some paragraphs that are less than three sentences, so the section should probably be reorganized into less paragraphs. (Wikipedia:Layout#Paragraphs) The second one should probably be edited into the first, when describing Lollapalooza. I don't know if the following is a problem: the years 2010 and 2011 are included sixteen times. If the section is reorganized, couldn't those years be used once per paragraph or something? I was thinking to add a tag or two to the top of the section, but I'm not quite sure which ones. (I'm probably an inexperienced contributor.) What do you think? Is there anything I missed?--EclecticEnnui (talk) 23:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

New album

Is there any reason why Soundgarden's upcoming album shouldn't be added to the discography section? My main reason for adding it is so that if someone wants to know whether or not Soundgarden is releasing a new album, they can quickly and easily come to the Wikipedia page, click on the discography link, and see that they are planning on releasing a new album. Woknam66 (talk) 15:28, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, it's been almost a week now. If nobody has responded by this time tomorrow, I'm going to change it. Woknam66 (talk) 16:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Silence does not mean assent. You will find a great many editors will delete any silly "TBA" listing from a discography section, for Soundgarden or anyone else. So, proceed at your own risk. Tarc (talk) 16:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've seen many pages with a useful "TBA" listing in the discography section, so....yeah. Woknam66 (talk) 16:47, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

If there are, then they should be removed. Tarc (talk) 17:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Again, we're back to page one. Why should I remove them? Is it actually Wikipedia policy to remove them, or is it just your opinion? Woknam66 (talk) 17:42, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

If it's just your opinion, that's fine. I just wish you would admit it. Woknam66 (talk) 01:16, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

It is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of verifiability; if you can't vetify what the name of an album is, then there is simply nothing of value to list in the discography. Mention somewhere in the body of the article that a new album is forthcoming. That is all. Tarc (talk) 01:55, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

All you really just said is that that in your opinion the fact their forthcoming album doesn't have a name isn't of any value. You said nothing about facts, just your own opinion.

And please stop bringing up the whole "verifiability" thing. It has been officially confirmed by multiple sources that there is an upcoming album, and the page you linked to says absolutely nothing about bands, albums, or listing something as "TBA". When I say that I want to hear something about policy instead of opinion, I mean citing something from here. Woknam66 (talk) 03:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

It is not opinion, and what I linked to covers the situation quite adequately; if you can't name an album then there's nothing to put in a discography, simple as that. That's really the last I have to offer, as this is getting repetitive. Tarc (talk) 12:49, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Really, it covers it adequately? And where exactly on the page does it cover that? I see absolutely nothing on the page about it. Woknam66 (talk) 13:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

If the band has a forthcoming album, but the title isn't known, then there really shouldn't be anything more than "The band announced in 20xx that it is working on its nth album. No title has been announced yet" or something to that effect. Putting "TBD" in the discography is stating the obvious, and indeed a borderline breach of WP:HAMMER — there's nothing there yet, so why put it there? Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 05:41, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. You should also consider adding something about this to WP:HAMMER, so that this doesn't happen again in the future to someone else. Woknam66 (talk) 16:04, 17 April 2011 (UTC)