User talk:DangerousPanda

Note: please do not use talkback {{tb}} templates here unless you are referring to discussion areas that I have not yet been a part of; I do monitor my conversations

Can you please take a look ?

After my recent block , I look at the report page of edit war : [1] . You know , this reported edit :[2], has not been reverting of any change and I think was wrongly reported as a revert. I have 8 edits in that page : 5 times adding references , one time deleting a template that was not a revert and two times reverting (getting back the deleted references) I ask this because it was my first time to be blocked and first time to be considered doing wrong . Can you explain me what was my wrong , to be prevented in coming occasions ? Thank you so much --Alborz Fallah (talk) 15:23, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Someday you will actually read the definition of a revert at WP:3RR. It's been provided often enough to you. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:21, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for explanation , but let me ask my last question and I will not bother anymore : Is changing the unrelated text a revert ? I mean changing a part that is not related to the discussion of opposing editors is a revert ? A "revert" means any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors , But which editor : the opposing or unrelated ordinary bystander editor?--Alborz Fallah (talk) 17:02, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

As it says: "A "revert" means any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material". Any editors, effectively any text (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:25, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

OK, thank you so much.--Alborz Fallah (talk) 18:00, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

There appears to be some edit warring between one of the involved users User:Orartu and User:علی ویکی. I am not aware how to re-open a case but I have added a comment with the relevant details on ANI Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Alborz_Fallah_reported_by_User:Orartu_.28Result:_Both_blocked.29. IRWolfie- (talk) 17:40, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

OpenDDR

You're right... I should have put a welcome template on his talk page. I usually don't bite the newbies, but the past few days have been more Wiki-drama then I'm used to. Feel free to trout me if you must... VictorianMutant^(Talk) 18:12, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Award

	Civility Barnstar
	Thanks for judging neutrally,without discrimination and for your good behaviour with users .--Orartu (talk) 09:56, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks; very unexpected :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Cyberpower678

Please remove that bot out of my talk page for 24 hours. It keeps deleting an impersonation barrier template that I am developing. Please send me a talk back if you received this and have a response for this.—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 22:46, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

It won't delete it if more than one person has edited it ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:50, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Michael Capponi

Hi BWilkins

Thanks for your feedback on the [Michael Capponi] page, if you could help out a fellow Canadian with some pointers on how I can rewrite the article as well as some of the source and references since I have been adding them along with a friend over the last 6 months and it would make my life easier so I don't have to start over again completely. If you could be so kind as to at least put it back into draft mode or email me the contents so I can at least start from there I would be very grateful.

Thank you Mryayo8 (talk) 04:56, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Lest We Forget

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
      Between the crosses, row on row,
   That mark our place; and in the sky
   The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
   Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
         In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from falling hands we throw
   The torch; be yours to hold it high.
   If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
         In Flanders fields.

(talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Hi.I need help,please take a look at here [3]can romanizaed form of a title's name be written in article in addition to common alphabet?With Respect--Orartu (talk) 12:42, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Content dispute that I see absolutely no discussion. I have protected the page, warned the other user, and warn you too (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I don't want to involve in edtitwarring.I want to know whether my edit is correct or not, because there are many articles which have same situation,I also want to sockpuppetry investigation of User:In fact and User:Alborz Fallah, What I must do?I have class, I will see your guidances later, Cheers.--Orartu (talk) 12:54, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

To user Orartu : It was you who changed the consensus. I was just trying to stop you. You did not pay attention to the link in the talk page and also the edit summaries. Oh! By the way, Regarding you request in here, you may do it in WP:SSP. In fact 13:25, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

To user In fact:Are you admin Bwilkins?I don't want your guidances.My changing doesn't relate to your consensus.--Orartu (talk) 14:55, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

You both need to discuss that link on the talkpage of the article. If either of you change the article related to those same edits, you will be blocked for slow edit-warring. Take it to the talkpage, it's open for both of you right now. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:17, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

There has already been a very long discussion. ( The link is provided in the talk page ) Do we really have to do the very same thing again and waste our time?! She just appeared and broke the consensus. If she wanted to change the article and oppose the consensus, she should have first discussed it. BTW, User Orartu and I both reverted eachother twice in a 24-hour period. How come I deserve a warning, but she does not! Regards, In fact 17:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Please kindly read this edit summary. Do you think we can really discuss with a user having such an attitude ?! Do you think she has read the discussion in the talk page ?! In fact 17:57, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the TB template, I am so sorry. I did it as a routine. I did not notice your message on top of the page. (It is very small,... my excuse ) In fact 18:41, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

You did, of course, see a few lines above where I warned them as well? Remember that consensus can change. It would help to have the discussion, even if simply to verify current consensus. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:30, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. In fact 09:02, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Abdullah ibn Saba

I was wondering if you could take a look at the latest activity on this page. Recently, you blocked User:Wiqi55 for 60 hours, for edit-warring on this page. But only minutes after the expiration of his block, he resumed edit-warring there, and has already reverted this page 6 times in the last few hours. [4] Kurdo777 (talk) 15:49, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

I did indef earlier ... pending even a minor understanding of Wikipedia. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 23:01, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

RFC/U on User:Arcillaroja

Hi, thanks for suggesting RFC/U. But I need another user to file, and as stated earlier, all other users who "fought" this guy have receded as they grew tired of him. So if you agree with me, would you co-operate on this RFC/U? Thank you. ᴳᴿᴲᴳᴼᴿᴵᴷ☺ᶤᶯᵈᶸᶩᶢᵉ 12:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Having never interacted with them, it would be both inappropriate and probably quite useless for me to certify it (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:01, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi again

Hi again.Pardon for interruption, I wanted to discuss with User:In fact here[5], but his tone of writing is similar to announcement of war than discussion, I am sorry for him.My account blocked for unintentionally editwarring here [6], I only wanted to stop User:Alborz Fallah entering unrelated sources, after blocking I didn't contribute in editing this article, and User:Alborz Fallah and User:علی ویکی freely entering unrelated materials to this article, User:ASCIIn2Bme has referred to some of them.After nomination of this article Azarbaijani Kurdsfor deletion, they soon created another discussion subject in Iranian Azerbaijanis to reduce my contribution here as nominator [7],User:علی ویکی also deleted all "Dubious" and "Citation needed" tags from article without any convincing explanation [8]. User:علی ویکی also deleted materials which had sources here[9], but there was no penalty for him.He is not ordinary user [10]. Please take a look at here Talk:Iranian Azerbaijanis, here is like battleground and new assistance forces and sockpuppet accounts want to poison atmosphere against me.I only said that article is not propaganda site of Iran's government or Pan Iranist blog to reflect only their pov, but User:Kansas Bear began personal attacks against me and along with User:In fact accused me as opposer of Iran's government, and Righting Great Wrongs.I wanted to see the result of this deletion process Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Azarbaijani Kurds,then leave wikipedia, but I could not tolerate tense and poisoning atmosphere around Iranian and Azerbaijani related articles and personal attacks.I appreciate you and other admins of English wikipedia who keep the neutrality of this encyclopedia.With Respect--Orartu (talk) 07:18, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

You will always need to show proof of the personal attacks .. using diff's. They also must clearly meet the definition of WP:NPA. Whatever you do, just don't say something like "check out user X's contributions" ... that'll get you nowhere. Much of what you're pointing out above is a content dispute, and WP:CONSENSUS applies. When in doubt, dispute resolution processes kick in. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:14, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Music files

Hey there! Hope you are having a wonderful Monday :) I had asked User:Dawnseeker2000 (who had worked with me in the past and taught me to upload music files) if he could upload three music WP:SAMPLEs to an article I am working on. He insisted that I should ask you to see if I could? If not, is it possible that you can help me out with doing this? Thanks, Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 03:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Are the samples copyrighted? Then no. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Tovalu

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Tovalu (talk) 05:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Ok then. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Delete http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tovalu/vector.css for me. Kthxbai. <3 Tovalu (talk) 10:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

As you may have already noticed, you are not welcome on this talkpage. Due to your personal behaviour, I have little desire to do personal favours for you - such as deleting the above. I half expect it's some form of entrapment anyway, based on your previous history. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:03, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Ignoring persian racist activities

When persians nationalist, and racist disruptive activities are ignored and encouraged by admins like User:EdJohnston, my presence is meaningless and is only wasting time.I want to delete all my contribiutions and discussions.I am sorry for myself for wasting my time here to hear accusations like these [11], [12], I don't want to save my talk page, it is painful for me.When I am unwelcome here, there is no reason for existance of my talkings too.--Orartu (talk) 18:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

IronE Singleton

I'd like to request user space drafts of the previously deleted versions of this article to work on cleaning up and sourcing it for recreation. The recent success of The Walking Dead has lead to a bevy of supporting sources. aprock (talk) 08:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Extended content
This is the ENTIRE contents of the last-deleted article
He currently resides in Dallas, Georgia. Year Name of Movie Role 2009 The Blind Side (film) Alton

Thank you. Based on the AfD discussion, other versions may be a better starting place. If you think it would be better for me to ask each of the other two deleting admins, please let me know and I will do so. aprock (talk) 19:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Qozlu, Ardabil & User:Orartu

Hi there. After four days of waiting, she finally showed up in the article's talk page. She also reverted the other user who had already restored the article to the consunsus. As I remember you said we should not change the article related to those same edits or we are blocked. Unfortunately User:Orartu did not listen to you and your advice. What is your suggestion ? Regards, In fact 10:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

But another ,member of mafia gang did instead of you.--Orartu (talk) 10:27, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:PA. In fact 10:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

It is not personal attack.It is reality--Orartu (talk) 10:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Help

Hello,

Since I saw that ANI doesn`t get much attention, I am wondering if you could review this case [13] and help to reach a solution. Thank you. Adrian (talk) 12:43, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Discussion is ongoing. This probably should have gone via WP:DR anyway, as it's content-oriented. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I don`t believe that there will be anymore comments but ok, I guess it can wait a bit more. As for WP:DR, I don`t think this is necessary since this is a clear case of disregarding sources in the article and altering it to reflect personal opinions. I believe that content dispute would be if the other party would present any source at all that states otherwise... Another user also confirmed this content and sources [14], I am just considered that this case won`t be forgotten and left without a solution.Adrian (talk) 12:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Does the content belong or does it not belong ... that's a content dispute. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

This person is famous because of this accomplishment(the union of Romanian principalities) therefore I don`t believe that this info by any standards should be excluded.Adrian (talk) 13:56, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

...and now you're bringing a content dispute here? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I asked for an admin for solution and after that I have wrote an ANI report. I honestly did`t thought I should go with WP:DR. I will do that if the problem remains. Thank you. Adrian (talk) 16:01, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

WP:ADMINSHOP would seem to apply at this point. You didn't like the results me and the other admin already watching the situation gave you, so you went to ANI. That didn't result in an immediate block so now you are asking B directly. They're not currently disrupting the article. This obviously is a content dispute. If you aren't interested in pursuing DR then it is time to walk away. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:34, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

It may seem like that, but what should I do? Until the last moment I gave this user a chance to explain his POV and to stop with personal attacks.. What would you do in my place if someone would act like this? I asked for advice and what should I do and I never got the answer.There are several wikipedia policies and a user clearly ignores it (and intends to ignore it no matter what, also almost in every his comment there is a personal attack..) - I still can`t believe it. If I was in his situation I would probably be warned or blocked by now... I am really stunned with this whole situation. For now I will walk away of course since the community decided to tolerate everything this user have done, but if continued I will pursue a DR if possible or if simply present this case as such to [15]. PS: I am not asking for a block. If it would be by me, this user should receive a warning for now. Adrian (talk) 21:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

If it's a pattern of activity, that's what WP:RFC/U is for. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 22:06, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi

Since you had earlier warned User:Orartu about his conduct, could you please take a look at his latest activities. Other than the usual edit-warring, the usual personal attacks, and the usual WP:Battle-POV-type of edits, he's now taken the disruption to whole a new level, calling another editor "an agent of the Iranian government".[16] This is a serious accusation with real-life implications, to be throwing around at an editor whose username is his real-life identity. Another editor, with an identical POV as User:Orartu, who made the exact same accusation on Wikipedia several weeks ago, was given an indefinite block by an administrator who also happens to be an ArbCom member.[17] [18]. I'm surprised that Orartu's behavior has gone unchecked for so long. Another admin named EdJohnston also recently warned him about his battleground-type of behavior/edits[19], but instead of taking the warning seriously, Orartu went on the offensive, and a made a bunch of accusations against EdJohnston as well. Kurdo777 (talk) 17:22, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry for you and your group who could not tolerate another pov and try to prevent my contribution.My activities are obvious, and there is no need for your explanations.I have already explained about this subject, you arrived late.You and your friends made a bunch of accusations against another admin Silk Tork[20].Your friends accused me here[21]:"And as user:In Fact has illustrated, your "posts" consist of grievances against the Iranian government and are not relevant to the discussion at hand." , that was natural reaction to their false statements aganist me, but I deleted my comment, but your friend didn't.Why do you think you have right to say everything you want but others don't have.--Orartu (talk) 17:59, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

To Kurdo:Probably you have forgotten your serious and unfounded accusations against me here [22], because I wanted to show your accusations are non-sense and materials of this article are historical realty, not showing enemity to other ethnics,I was forced to rename that article, and it was deleted.--Orartu (talk) 18:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

To Orartu: Links ?

To Bwilkins: She is slow edit warring in Qozlu, Ardabil, and pays no attention to the discussions and the consensus. Regards, In fact 18:27, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

He is slow edit warring too, we have not reached to any consensus, unless imposing pov means consensus in terms of In fact.--Orartu (talk) 18:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

User:Newyorkbrad blocked User:Saygi1 for calling someone an agent of the Iranian government. His theory was the possibility of real-life harm to the editor so accused. Now Orartu has made the same charge here and does not seem to have any plan to withdraw it. EdJohnston (talk) 18:47, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

I deleted it.User:Kurdo777 accused me as ultra-nationalist here [23], and User:Kansas Bear and User:In fact accused me as opposer of Iran's government,[24]--Orartu (talk) 18:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for 50/50 Twin

An editor has asked for a deletion review of 50/50 Twin. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Ei1sos (talk) 22:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

If someone spent half as much time actually writing a new article as wikilawyering the hell out of this one, there might actually be a useful article half-drafted by now (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:09, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Page protection on Itinerant

I've noticed you have protected the page to prevent further disruption. I would appreciate it if you could also revert the edits to a previous (pre-edit-war) neutral revision. 79.170.50.135 (talk) 16:18, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

All the more reason to discuss what the article SHOULD look like on the talkpage right now then n'est ce pas? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello

May you confirm me to have right to upload pictures, because i didnt have rights to upload logo on one wiki page. Thanks Stojan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stojansmk (talk • contribs) 22:51, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Be cautious with logos ...non-free items like that and some things need to go to WP:COMMONS. You also realize if you upload your own photos, you're giving some rights away to Wikipedia, right? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 23:29, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Um, no, non-free items have to be here, they're not allowed on Commons. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 01:10, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

(I need to stop editing while exhausted :-) ) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Intentional disambiguation redirects (context)

Greetings! I apologize for not providing a specific context. You recently speedily deleted T. grandiflora (disambiguation), and several other similarly configured "foo (disambiguation)" redirects. However, these redirects are supposed to exist in accordance with WP:INTDABLINK, so that intentional links can be made to disambiguation pages without appearing as errors needing correction. Furthermore, there is a widely used template for species identification on disambiguation pages that requires these redirects to exist in order to function properly. Please don't delete "foo (disambiguation)" redirects unless the target page is actually not a disambiguation page at all. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Um, wow ... no. It appears you either don't understand the purpose of a disambig page, or really don't understand that policy! For example, if there is only ever going to be one article, there's never a need for a disambig page (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I am only referring to situations where legitimate disambiguation pages already exist because there are multiple articles. For example, T. grandiflora is a disambiguation page, because there are multiple unrelated species known as T. grandiflora. Therefore, T. grandiflora (disambiguation) must exist so that editors intending to link to the disambig page can do so without creating a false positive for an erroneous link to a disambig page. bd2412 T 17:48, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, the only disambigs I deleted were ones that had only 1 single article linking from them, and I understand and acknowledge what you say above - that's literally no issue for me (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:33, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Could you give an example of a valid (disambiguation) redirect deletion? I'm a bit unclear on your position. --JaGa^talk 18:39, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Bwilkins, but that is flatly incorrect. T. grandiflora has only ever been a disambiguation page indicating multiple meanings since its creation in March of 2010; therefore it already was a disambiguation page when you deleted the T. grandiflora (disambiguation) redirect a week ago. By contrast, your deletion of Dejean (disambiguation), which was a redirect to Dejean, was correct, because Dejean is not a disambiguation page. Do you see the difference? bd2412 T 18:51, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure where "yes, no issue" and move on leads to you thinking you need to provide rather non-WP:AGF continued explanations. I'm pretty sure we're on the same page here, move on (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:10, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

If there's a misunderstanding here, it is yours, BWilkins. The (disambiguation) redirects exist specifically to act as targets for intentional links to existing plain-titled disambiguation pages. This mechanism allows editors (and, for that matter, bots) to distinguish between those deliberate links on the one hand, and, on the other, unintentional, erroneous links that require fixing so that they will point to the correct article. Using (disambiguation) redirects in this way is a longstanding policy that has repeatedly been affirmed by consensus. Please do not delete any more of these redirects.--ShelfSkewed Talk 18:15, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Good to see you actually know the situation being discussed ;-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:37, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

chorus+ article

Dear Bwilkins, I am the principal author of the article "chorus+" that you recently undeleted and made available in my userspace "grsjst". Thank you for that!

In order to prevent speedy deletion, i'd like to ask for your advice. To give you some context, CHORUS+ is a research project funded by the European Commission. There are a number of research partners involved that will contribute to the article. However, since there are multiple contributors, the article may take one (or two) months to develop. My initial plan was therefore to develop it in my own userspace and, once it is sufficiently mature, publish the article on wikipedia. However, when I requested an upload for the project logo, this was rejected because the article was only available in my userspace. Publishing the article led to speedy-delation, as you know.

My question to you is how to proceed in this case? If I keep the article in my userspace, how do i upload images? If i publish the article pre-maturly how do i avoid it is getting speedy deleted? Many thanks for your suggestion! Grsjst (talk) 16:59, 21 November 2011 (UTC)