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Welcome!

Hello, Mike Linksvayer, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  -- Longhair | Talk 19:30, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

What, you've only been at it three or four months longer than I have? —Tamfang 05:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've been at it since 2003, though still nothing significant. I don't know why Longhair chose to deposit a welcome message here last August. Mike Linksvayer 07:48, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I found a page where Ryan said, No problem. We target blank (red) talk pages. We have no other way of pointing out new users, which is why we often end up welcoming experienced users. —Tamfang 07:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Linksvayer"

The prank has been speedied. =) Just so you know, if you see any other pages that should be deleted right away, you can add the Speedy Delete template to alert admins that it should be nuked right away. The template looks like this: {{db|(reason)}}, and where "reason" is, fill in why it ought to be deleted, making sure it falls under speedy delete policy. This is different than an AFD nomination, because speedies can be deleted right away, while AFDs are subject to debate. Any questions, feel free to drop a line on my talk. [[User:Premeditated Chaos|User:Premeditated Chaos/Sig]] 23:51, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Hello. Please note that you don't need to type [[Rational agent|rational agents]]; it suffices to type [[rational agent]]s. Similarly, if you type [[evolution]]ary, [[Austria]]n, [[hyphen]]ated, [[logic]]al, [[apocryhpa]]l, [[book]]s, [[rabbi]]nical, etc., then the whole word, not just the part in brackets, appears as a clickable link, and links to the page whose name is in the brackets. Also, the first letter of a link, unlike the later letters, is not case-sensitive, so you don't need to write [[Book|book]]. Michael Hardy 20:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Michael for that very useful tip! Mike Linksvayer 00:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another small work-saver: if you write [[crest (heraldry)|]] (with nothing after the pipe), it's saved as crest, i.e. the text outside the parenthesis is repeated after the pipe. —Tamfang 17:43, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SF Meetup #6

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   San Francisco Meetup # 6
  Date: Saturday, June 28th, 2008
  Time: ~1:00PM
  Place: Glen Park Branch Library
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I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

SF Meetup #7

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   San Francisco Meetup # 7
  Date: September 6th, 2008
  Time: 3 PM
  Place: Freebase HQ, San Francisco
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AfD nomination of International Living

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AfD nomination of WTFPL

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SF Meetup #8

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   San Francisco Meetup # 8
  Date: November 8th, 2008
  Time: 2PM
  Place: Metacafe, Palo Alto, California
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SF Meetup #11

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   San Francisco Meetup # 11
  Date: Saturday, February 6th, 2010
  Time: 15:00 (3PM)
  Place: WMFoundation offices
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Nomination of Mike Linksvayer for deletion

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The Great American Wiknic

Hi there! In the past, you've expressed an interest in local meetups of Wikipedians. Well, here's your chance! On Saturday, June 25, we'll be joining Wikipedians in cities all over the country for the first annual Great American Wiknic -- the picnic that anyone can edit! We'll meet up at a park in SF -- hopefully in the sun -- all other details are still in deliberation!

If this sounds fun, please add your name to the list: Wikipedia:Meetup/San Francisco/Wiknic and add that page to your watchlist. (And of course, feel free to edit that page with your ideas, questions, etc.) I look forward to wiknicking with you! -Pete (talk) 00:07, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Common IP

Hello. I want to support of my comrades, which implement useful activity with me together at one of the sub-units of the volunteers of the CC. This is the Russian community, which gives almost for everyone the opportunity to work with good conditions, for the development of the openess, via the remote administration software. People from different countries are at this community, if they have some proof of them useful activity for the goals of the CC. When implement such activity, people automaticly get same (common) parameters of the computer and the Internet, including, IP address, DNS, browser and language (the Russian interface). My comrades were blamed for creating multiple accounts, receiving the nickname sockpuppet, and were blocked. These are veterans, who made very big contribution at different sub-units of the CC. U.S. Curator (contribution at the CC) worked some time together with John Torn (division of labor).Also, they were blamed for spam to profit. The conflict was appeared, when Torn tried to implement the initiative, which was suggested by the top managment sub-unit. The goal of this initiative is to attract donations to pay for the work of third-party developers at the CC. Thus, the goal has the practical nature and nothing more. As result, I ask you explain the situation for the administrators of the English Wikipedia, for the rehabilitation of the violated rights of my comrades. Thank you ! 89.179.190.233 (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Adding links to Wikipedia articles to attract donations is not appropriate, however noble and not-for-profit the cause. Explaining this would be futile. Mike Linksvayer (talk) 00:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • All simply: Exists sub-unit of the CC, which consists of near 8000 of people (volunteers). These people want for respect of them rights, which were violated. Respect of rights, including, this is rehabilitation of honor the contributers, such as he: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:U.S._Curator and his helpers. The topic USA is 1 of the most important topics at the Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States#External_links (Category:USA in the Creative Commons. Websites and projects for free usage under a Creative Commons license) and at the CC. We work for people. If John Torn is guilty, it means, this link must be deleted from the Wikipedia: Category:USA in the Creative Commons. Websites and projects for free usage under a Creative Commons license. This is him contribution at the Wikipedia (here diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States&diff=prev&oldid=448855151 ). The more, you write, that is undesirable attract donations that way. Also, U.S. Curator must be blocked here. As offender. Let others create the Category:USA at the Creative Commons. You will decide. You have right to do everything. Our right is to ask about the rehabilitation of members of the sub-unit (which located at the Russian community). Working for the good of the OPENESS and the CC. The justice only is welcomed. People are not blamed. The program TeamViewer makes the common ranges of IP addresses. We ask to correct terrible mistake, related to sockpuppets. You are respected man and do it is in your power, everybody knows it. No need to stay away. And 8000 volunteers want their initiatives have been respected. About OneLittleMouse: He is the great wrestler with spam and the well-known provocateur. Self-promotion. Talk page was removed because of the dirty violations, in 2010, at the English Wikipedia. Materialscientist made these the fair actions. - 176.15.3.12 (talk) 20:47, 13 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

This is the appeal to the expert

Hello! People violate all principles of the Openess and many of other rules: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rubber_Soul#Not_spam.2C_because_not_exists_of_any_legal_ground_to_think_so. I ask you explain to them, if they can not understand me personally. I am sure, that they do not want, because have more rights here. Thus, this is request for support. I hope, you will not become have neutral point of view. Because you are the highest expert. I need justice. Violators must be stopped. The movement for the openess in the danger, otherwise. This is the bad precedent in the future. They must undo the illegal rollbacks also and not create obstacles more. Please, let them understand shortly and clearly. Here and on the talk page of the Rubber Soul. They must understand once and for all. These people are wrong on 10000000%, not lower. The Freedom and Openess must win. Thanks! - Crazy1980 (talk) 20:36, 24 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I responded at the link above. Summary: I'm not a relevant expert. Sorry! Mike Linksvayer (talk) 21:52, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Please, see this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rubber_Soul#Not_spam.2C_because_not_exists_of_any_legal_ground_to_think_so . Thanks! - Science111 (talk) 00:34, 26 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]


License and CCPlus

Hello! Websites and projects in this category are legal: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Category:License_and_CCPlus ? Every of them, currently. Thanks! Un500 22:18, 26 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Un500 (talk • contribs)

Sorry else time, I want to clarify: which exact principle? In sense, that several of websites sell own licences, but I can not see in code HTML of such websites, the mark up of the CC. In the same time, exist some websites with a perfect display of the scheme, as here: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CCPlus . I want understand principle. Thanks! - Un500 (talk) 12:47, 27 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Sorry I don't know what you're asking, but it probably isn't your fault -- "CC+" is a dumb brand that is misunderstood by most of the people who encounter it. Feel free to try rephrasing your question. Mike Linksvayer (talk) 21:20, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for attention! Okey. For example: which method used by Jamendo to implement the protocol CCPlus, when has the goal to get rights for selling of the musical licenses? This site uses a CC license, at the same time, in the code HTML there is not exists the markup REL, which has relation to the protocol CCPlus. Like displayed at the page here: CCPlus. In the code HTML of some other websites exists the exact usage of such markup REL. Page with the legal info of the website of the project ART OF THE BEATLES IN THE GLOBAL LIBRARY contains the exact markup. At the website of the New York State Senate implemented conditions of the protocol CCPlus in the part of getting the additional permissions only (and waiver). Very difficult understand: who of these websites is the legal more, than others. Jamendo, Senate, The Beatles, Yahoo! and so on..? All projects from the Category:License and CCPlus at the CC. What need to make, to get the needed level of such legal nature, including. You said earlier that many people can not understand. Please, explain. If a big number of people not has the such knowlege, better of all to explain this for a large public. I think so. Lesson by topic: the tools of the CC. The best place to implement this, possibly, is here: Talk:Creative Commons licenses. This is can be very helpful contribution, softly speaking. Large number of issues related to the CC, is the "dark forest" for much of users at the Wikipedia. People must know, how implement rightly. Please, provide such service for our users, when not complicated. Or for me only. As you want. Thanks before! - Un500 (talk) 19:17, 30 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
I still can't really tell, but I'm going to guess that you're asking about http://www.webcitation.org/63aerpv2c -- the "CC+" page on beatles1.ru. There are a number of things on that page indicating misunderstanding. One can't use a work "under CC+". "CC+" is not a license. It is not meaningful to merely assert that one has "additional permissions" unless those have been granted by the copyright holder of the work(s) in question. In order to offer "additional permissions" one would have to have the relevant rights in the first place, much like one needs to have the relevant rights in order to usefully offer a public license. http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Before_Licensing may be helpful. Mike Linksvayer (talk) 21:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is interesting. What about Waiver, in this case with The Beatles? Like the Senate State New York, simply. The whole science. Thanks! - Un500 (talk) 21:52, 1 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
beatles1.ru/CC_Plus.html reads like it is asserting that it has waivers which it probably doesn't. nysenate.gov/copyright-policy is offering a license and additional permissions for content the NY state senate probably does hold copyright to. Totally different. (An aside for anyone reading an actually understanding this: what nysenate.gov has done is legally ok, but not at all a good practice -- they're offering the most restrictive CC license, with a broad additional permission, except for one narrow class (political fundraising) that I doubt sees much use of such material anyway -- they've crippled they're offering, which ought be under a fully free license, no "CC+" additional permission necessary.) Mike Linksvayer (talk) 21:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Funny, but Jamendo uses very interesting method, to implement the protocol: If press link to upload song, appears window with the text: "create artist". Probably, all local artists are not exist in the reality. I do not know. Tell me please: Amazon sells a large number of different products (when not has copyright). Why he makes it and who gave such right him? Thanks! - Un500 (talk) 19:53, 14 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]

I suggest you try adding the Beatles to Jamendo, and see how far you get. Where copyright licenses required, Amazon has deals with copyright holders or their agents, eg distributors. I'm not the person to ask basic questions about other websites nor about copyright. Thanks. Mike Linksvayer (talk) 06:48, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello! This is interesting. But EMI? They can present a claim in the relation Jamendo (or me), probably. Or how in such case can be? Somewhere exists EMI, but suddenly appears un500 and says: I am The Beatles! Wonderful. Or I must appeal to someone who have rights, for example beatles1 with its collection under license? Thanks! - Un500 (talk) 10:23, 17 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
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